Biden To Support Obama's Impeachment?

[SAYIT]

So maybe the Prez will get the OK.
Or maybe he will use a rejection as an excuse not to do what most Americans do not want him to do.
But perhaps he will attack Syria even without congressional approval.
In that case does our VP stand by his words of 2007 and "lead an effort to impeach" Obama?

SENATOR JOE BIDEN: ...I was Chairman of the Judiciary Committee for 17 years. I teach separation of powers in Constitutional law. This is something I know. So I brought a group of Constitutional scholars together to write a piece that I'm going to deliver to the whole United States Senate pointing out that the president has no constitutional authority to take this country to war against a country of 70 million people unless we're attacked or unless there is proof that we are about to be attacked. And if he does, I would move to impeach him. The House obviously has to do that, but I would lead an effort to impeach him. The reason for my doing that -- and I don't say it lightly, I don't say it lightly. (Hardball, December 4, 2007)

 

[Geaux4it]

So maybe the Prez will get the OK.
Or maybe he will use a rejection as an excuse not to do what most Americans do not want him to do.
But perhaps he will attack Syria even without congressional approval.
In that case does our VP stand by his words of 2007 and "lead an effort to impeach" Obama?

SENATOR JOE BIDEN: ...I was Chairman of the Judiciary Committee for 17 years. I teach separation of powers in Constitutional law. This is something I know. So I brought a group of Constitutional scholars together to write a piece that I'm going to deliver to the whole United States Senate pointing out that the president has no constitutional authority to take this country to war against a country of 70 million people unless we're attacked or unless there is proof that we are about to be attacked. And if he does, I would move to impeach him. The House obviously has to do that, but I would lead an effort to impeach him. The reason for my doing that -- and I don't say it lightly, I don't say it lightly. (Hardball, December 4, 2007)

I think hew was drinking more highballs back then than today. Could be wrong.

-Geaux

 

[freedombecki]

Sayit, he may have been talking through his hat.

So far, he has not kept that promise.

 

[R.C. Christian]

Oh the hypocrisy. I hope he blows the shit out of Syria and brings us to Defcon II. There will be riots in the streets and Obama with his ilk will get ran out of town.

 

[Capstone]

Could be his one and only shot at the Presidency.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

So maybe the Prez will get the OK.
Or maybe he will use a rejection as an excuse not to do what most Americans do not want him to do.
But perhaps he will attack Syria even without congressional approval.
In that case does our VP stand by his words of 2007 and "lead an effort to impeach" Obama?

SENATOR JOE BIDEN: ...I was Chairman of the Judiciary Committee for 17 years. I teach separation of powers in Constitutional law. This is something I know. So I brought a group of Constitutional scholars together to write a piece that I'm going to deliver to the whole United States Senate pointing out that the president has no constitutional authority to take this country to war against a country of 70 million people unless we're attacked or unless there is proof that we are about to be attacked. And if he does, I would move to impeach him. The House obviously has to do that, but I would lead an effort to impeach him. The reason for my doing that -- and I don't say it lightly, I don't say it lightly. (Hardball, December 4, 2007)

You do understand that ‘impeachment’ is an indictment, in theory a president could be ‘impeached’ because the sky is blue.

The real question is would the Senate convict.

Clearly the Senate would not convict since no court has ruled on the constitutionality of a president using military force absent Congressional approval. Without such a ruling there would be no grounds for a conviction, and likely no grounds for ‘impeachment,’ for that matter.

Consequently any effort by House republicans to ‘impeach’ Obama would be as partisan and as pointless as Biden with regard to Bush in 2007, or Congressional republicans with regard to Clinton.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

So maybe the Prez will get the OK.
Or maybe he will use a rejection as an excuse not to do what most Americans do not want him to do.
But perhaps he will attack Syria even without congressional approval.
In that case does our VP stand by his words of 2007 and "lead an effort to impeach" Obama?

SENATOR JOE BIDEN: ...I was Chairman of the Judiciary Committee for 17 years. I teach separation of powers in Constitutional law. This is something I know. So I brought a group of Constitutional scholars together to write a piece that I'm going to deliver to the whole United States Senate pointing out that the president has no constitutional authority to take this country to war against a country of 70 million people unless we're attacked or unless there is proof that we are about to be attacked. And if he does, I would move to impeach him. The House obviously has to do that, but I would lead an effort to impeach him. The reason for my doing that -- and I don't say it lightly, I don't say it lightly. (Hardball, December 4, 2007)

I think hew was drinking more highballs back then than today. Could be wrong.

-Geaux

You know that Joe Biden has been a teetotaler since he was in college, right?

 

[Zona]

Oh the hypocrisy. I hope he blows the shit out of Syria and brings us to Defcon II. There will be riots in the streets and Obama with his ilk will get ran out of town.

Nothing happened to bush after Iraq dude.

 

[Zona]

So maybe the Prez will get the OK.
Or maybe he will use a rejection as an excuse not to do what most Americans do not want him to do.
But perhaps he will attack Syria even without congressional approval.
In that case does our VP stand by his words of 2007 and "lead an effort to impeach" Obama?

SENATOR JOE BIDEN: ...I was Chairman of the Judiciary Committee for 17 years. I teach separation of powers in Constitutional law. This is something I know. So I brought a group of Constitutional scholars together to write a piece that I'm going to deliver to the whole United States Senate pointing out that the president has no constitutional authority to take this country to war against a country of 70 million people unless we're attacked or unless there is proof that we are about to be attacked. And if he does, I would move to impeach him. The House obviously has to do that, but I would lead an effort to impeach him. The reason for my doing that -- and I don't say it lightly, I don't say it lightly. (Hardball, December 4, 2007)

I think hew was drinking more highballs back then than today. Could be wrong.

-Geaux

You know that Joe Biden has been a teetotaler since he was in college, right?

Don't do that. I messes with their think tanks.

 

[Geaux4it]

So maybe the Prez will get the OK.
Or maybe he will use a rejection as an excuse not to do what most Americans do not want him to do.
But perhaps he will attack Syria even without congressional approval.
In that case does our VP stand by his words of 2007 and "lead an effort to impeach" Obama?

SENATOR JOE BIDEN: ...I was Chairman of the Judiciary Committee for 17 years. I teach separation of powers in Constitutional law. This is something I know. So I brought a group of Constitutional scholars together to write a piece that I'm going to deliver to the whole United States Senate pointing out that the president has no constitutional authority to take this country to war against a country of 70 million people unless we're attacked or unless there is proof that we are about to be attacked. And if he does, I would move to impeach him. The House obviously has to do that, but I would lead an effort to impeach him. The reason for my doing that -- and I don't say it lightly, I don't say it lightly. (Hardball, December 4, 2007)

I think hew was drinking more highballs back then than today. Could be wrong.

-Geaux

You know that Joe Biden has been a teetotaler since he was in college, right?

Oh, so he has no excuse? Well, I did say I could be wrong

-Geaux

 

[Mr. H.]

The real question is would the Senate convict.

If the golfing glove fits, you must convict!

 

[SAYIT]

So maybe the Prez will get the OK.
Or maybe he will use a rejection as an excuse not to do what most Americans do not want him to do.
But perhaps he will attack Syria even without congressional approval.
In that case does our VP stand by his words of 2007 and "lead an effort to impeach" Obama?

SENATOR JOE BIDEN: ...I was Chairman of the Judiciary Committee for 17 years. I teach separation of powers in Constitutional law. This is something I know. So I brought a group of Constitutional scholars together to write a piece that I'm going to deliver to the whole United States Senate pointing out that the president has no constitutional authority to take this country to war against a country of 70 million people unless we're attacked or unless there is proof that we are about to be attacked. And if he does, I would move to impeach him. The House obviously has to do that, but I would lead an effort to impeach him. The reason for my doing that -- and I don't say it lightly, I don't say it lightly. (Hardball, December 4, 2007)

You do understand that ‘impeachment’ is an indictment, in theory a president could be ‘impeached’ because the sky is blue.

The real question is would the Senate convict.

You do understand that the question was clearly stated: Would the VP "lead an effort to impeach" the Prez?

 

[whitehall]

Apparently Biden didn't support Clinton's impeachment so there is little hope that the brain damaged V.P. will ever criticize another democrat much less his own boss.

 

[OKTexas]

So maybe the Prez will get the OK.
Or maybe he will use a rejection as an excuse not to do what most Americans do not want him to do.
But perhaps he will attack Syria even without congressional approval.
In that case does our VP stand by his words of 2007 and "lead an effort to impeach" Obama?

SENATOR JOE BIDEN: ...I was Chairman of the Judiciary Committee for 17 years. I teach separation of powers in Constitutional law. This is something I know. So I brought a group of Constitutional scholars together to write a piece that I'm going to deliver to the whole United States Senate pointing out that the president has no constitutional authority to take this country to war against a country of 70 million people unless we're attacked or unless there is proof that we are about to be attacked. And if he does, I would move to impeach him. The House obviously has to do that, but I would lead an effort to impeach him. The reason for my doing that -- and I don't say it lightly, I don't say it lightly. (Hardball, December 4, 2007)

You do understand that ‘impeachment’ is an indictment, in theory a president could be ‘impeached’ because the sky is blue.

The real question is would the Senate convict.

Clearly the Senate would not convict since no court has ruled on the constitutionality of a president using military force absent Congressional approval. Without such a ruling there would be no grounds for a conviction, and likely no grounds for ‘impeachment,’ for that matter.

Consequently any effort by House republicans to ‘impeach’ Obama would be as partisan and as pointless as Biden with regard to Bush in 2007, or Congressional republicans with regard to Clinton.

No need for court review, the Constitution clearly gives ONLY congress the power to declare war. Abuse of power is plenty to impeach, but you're right the senate wouldn't convict maobama if he killed his kids on national TV. They would swear he did it for national security.

 

[R.C. Christian]

Oh the hypocrisy. I hope he blows the shit out of Syria and brings us to Defcon II. There will be riots in the streets and Obama with his ilk will get ran out of town.

Nothing happened to bush after Iraq dude.

But dude, this is far, far more serious than Iraq and for many reasons.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Oh the hypocrisy. I hope he blows the shit out of Syria and brings us to Defcon II. There will be riots in the streets and Obama with his ilk will get ran out of town.

Nothing happened to bush after Iraq dude.

Did Bush get congressional approval for iraq?