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Bible Verses at work... Military
- Thread starter Bonzi
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Hard to believe they are 30-50 bucks now...Yep, a lot cheaper. A carton of cigarettes cost me $2.00 on base.Well things were cheaper then....You were lucky. In 1967 I got $99.00 a month.I was in 1982-88, we got 475 base pay and 300 BAQOnce I moved off base and got married, the Basic Allowance for Quarters did not come close to actual costs of maintaining a residence.
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Tell that to a civilian in Jacksonville North Carolina that makes $9 an hour while a 19 year old E-3 stationed at Camp Lejeune gets $1200 BAH on top of his lucrative salary.
When we're you in? If your dates are in the last 20 years then I call BS. The public isn't falling for these lies any more.
There are real poor peep on the United States and none of them wear a military uniform.
presonorek
Gold Member
I was in the Marine Corps - 1967 - 1970 ---- I know the game, how it works, and it has absolutely nothing to do with national security. With all of our men and women serving in the military, do we have national security? Is every single order given in the military one of life or death? Are mistakes made by high ranking officers in time or war and combat? Are some orders given in the military bullshit? Think about it.BullshitMarine court-martialed for refusing to remove Bible verse Fox News
Is this going too far or is this just?
In the Marine Corps I was taught to follow orders immediately without discussion. If a superior is wrong it is to be addressed after the fact. From a tactical perspective this type of culture is necessary for combative readiness. If you argue on the battlefield you die or worse, you lose a battle.
This soldier may not deserve to be court martial ed but she should be. She is a threat to our national security. Follow orders first. There will be a time to address unlawful orders later.
Would you care to elaborate?
That's what I was taught. I rarely seen abuse of power but I did see abuse of power a few times.
There is a procedure to follow to remedy those situations appropriately. Saying, "No sir." is conducting unbecoming of a soldier. You will probably get away with it. I remember I got away with it once. Not everybody is so lucky.
You can get court martialed for it. Disobeying an unlawful order is disruptive to effective military culture. Giving an unlawful order is disruptive to military culture.
You were in the military a different time than me. We were all volunteers. I'm sure your experience was different than mine. I didn't see a lot of abuse of power. I seen a lot of arrogant jerks but not criminals giving unlawful orders.
Delta4Embassy
Gold Member
Sir, Errol Flynn was constantly in trouble for messing with young females...In the 1930's, you come out of the closet and a reception party would have you swingin' from a tree...Through my 54 years, I have learned that things change...Don't matter if you agree of disagree...Just keep on living, cause if your dead......Well,,,,you're dead....
Perception of reality changes. Not convinced reality itself does. Watch a lot of old 30s movies on TCM, and but for better technology, nothing much has changed.
Errol Flynn.
Ya, with a 17 year-old. Big woop.
Sonny Clark
Diamond Member
- Banned
- #45
I now buy the cheap ones, Bronson. They cost me $32.00 a carton including tax. I buy them at a Quick-Trip store.Hard to believe they are 30-50 bucks now...Yep, a lot cheaper. A carton of cigarettes cost me $2.00 on base.Well things were cheaper then....You were lucky. In 1967 I got $99.00 a month.I was in 1982-88, we got 475 base pay and 300 BAQTell that to a civilian in Jacksonville North Carolina that makes $9 an hour while a 19 year old E-3 stationed at Camp Lejeune gets $1200 BAH on top of his lucrative salary.
When we're you in? If your dates are in the last 20 years then I call BS. The public isn't falling for these lies any more.
There are real poor peep on the United States and none of them wear a military uniform.
Which would indicate that a man getting in trouble because of screwing around with a 17 year old he might not be like total ghey?Sir, Errol Flynn was constantly in trouble for messing with young females...In the 1930's, you come out of the closet and a reception party would have you swingin' from a tree...Through my 54 years, I have learned that things change...Don't matter if you agree of disagree...Just keep on living, cause if your dead......Well,,,,you're dead....
Perception of reality changes. Not convinced reality itself does. Watch a lot of old 30s movies on TCM, and but for better technology, nothing much has changed.
Errol Flynn.
Ya, with a 17 year-old. Big woop.
Mine are the left handed smokes...I now buy the cheap ones, Bronson. They cost me $32.00 a carton including tax. I buy them at a Quick-Trip store.Hard to believe they are 30-50 bucks now...Yep, a lot cheaper. A carton of cigarettes cost me $2.00 on base.Well things were cheaper then....You were lucky. In 1967 I got $99.00 a month.I was in 1982-88, we got 475 base pay and 300 BAQ
Sonny Clark
Diamond Member
- Banned
- #48
Point taken ......Mine are the left handed smokes...I now buy the cheap ones, Bronson. They cost me $32.00 a carton including tax. I buy them at a Quick-Trip store.Hard to believe they are 30-50 bucks now...Yep, a lot cheaper. A carton of cigarettes cost me $2.00 on base.Well things were cheaper then....You were lucky. In 1967 I got $99.00 a month.
presonorek
Gold Member
I now buy the cheap ones, Bronson. They cost me $32.00 a carton including tax. I buy them at a Quick-Trip store.Hard to believe they are 30-50 bucks now...Yep, a lot cheaper. A carton of cigarettes cost me $2.00 on base.Well things were cheaper then....You were lucky. In 1967 I got $99.00 a month.I was in 1982-88, we got 475 base pay and 300 BAQ
Are you allowed to buy them out of state of it is for personal consumption?
Delta4Embassy
Gold Member
Which would indicate that a man getting in trouble because of screwing around with a 17 year old he might not be like total ghey?Sir, Errol Flynn was constantly in trouble for messing with young females...In the 1930's, you come out of the closet and a reception party would have you swingin' from a tree...Perception of reality changes. Not convinced reality itself does. Watch a lot of old 30s movies on TCM, and but for better technology, nothing much has changed.
Errol Flynn.
Ya, with a 17 year-old. Big woop.
Never really read about him until just now. Seems he was more accurately described as bisexual.
presonorek
Gold Member
Mine are the left handed smokes...I now buy the cheap ones, Bronson. They cost me $32.00 a carton including tax. I buy them at a Quick-Trip store.Hard to believe they are 30-50 bucks now...Yep, a lot cheaper. A carton of cigarettes cost me $2.00 on base.Well things were cheaper then....You were lucky. In 1967 I got $99.00 a month.
No taxes on those.
We all can't be try-sexuals...Which would indicate that a man getting in trouble because of screwing around with a 17 year old he might not be like total ghey?Sir, Errol Flynn was constantly in trouble for messing with young females...In the 1930's, you come out of the closet and a reception party would have you swingin' from a tree...
Errol Flynn.
Ya, with a 17 year-old. Big woop.
Never really read about him until just now. Seems he was more accurately described as bisexual.
Not yet...Mine are the left handed smokes...I now buy the cheap ones, Bronson. They cost me $32.00 a carton including tax. I buy them at a Quick-Trip store.Hard to believe they are 30-50 bucks now...Yep, a lot cheaper. A carton of cigarettes cost me $2.00 on base.Well things were cheaper then....
No taxes on those.
Sonny Clark
Diamond Member
- Banned
- #54
I buy them locally, less than 2 miles from my house. Yes, for me personally. And, I have no idea if there're sold in other states. My guess would be, yes.I now buy the cheap ones, Bronson. They cost me $32.00 a carton including tax. I buy them at a Quick-Trip store.Hard to believe they are 30-50 bucks now...Yep, a lot cheaper. A carton of cigarettes cost me $2.00 on base.Well things were cheaper then....You were lucky. In 1967 I got $99.00 a month.
Are you allowed to buy them out of state of it is for personal consumption?
Not another patrol...!!??Point taken ......Mine are the left handed smokes...I now buy the cheap ones, Bronson. They cost me $32.00 a carton including tax. I buy them at a Quick-Trip store.Hard to believe they are 30-50 bucks now...Yep, a lot cheaper. A carton of cigarettes cost me $2.00 on base.Well things were cheaper then....
Sonny Clark
Diamond Member
- Banned
- #56
Yes. I pay taxes on them. I pay approximately $32.00 a carton, which includes taxes. The brand is Bronson. Very popular because they are cheaper than other brands.Mine are the left handed smokes...I now buy the cheap ones, Bronson. They cost me $32.00 a carton including tax. I buy them at a Quick-Trip store.Hard to believe they are 30-50 bucks now...Yep, a lot cheaper. A carton of cigarettes cost me $2.00 on base.Well things were cheaper then....
No taxes on those.
People from OK and AR come to MO to get cheaper smokes, or go to the reservation(s) around.....I buy them locally, less than 2 miles from my house. Yes, for me personally. And, I have no idea if there're sold in other states. My guess would be, yes.I now buy the cheap ones, Bronson. They cost me $32.00 a carton including tax. I buy them at a Quick-Trip store.Hard to believe they are 30-50 bucks now...Yep, a lot cheaper. A carton of cigarettes cost me $2.00 on base.Well things were cheaper then....
Are you allowed to buy them out of state of it is for personal consumption?
Sonny Clark
Diamond Member
- Banned
- #58
Patrol what?Not another patrol...!!??Point taken ......Mine are the left handed smokes...I now buy the cheap ones, Bronson. They cost me $32.00 a carton including tax. I buy them at a Quick-Trip store.Hard to believe they are 30-50 bucks now...Yep, a lot cheaper. A carton of cigarettes cost me $2.00 on base.
presonorek
Gold Member
Not yet...Mine are the left handed smokes...I now buy the cheap ones, Bronson. They cost me $32.00 a carton including tax. I buy them at a Quick-Trip store.Hard to believe they are 30-50 bucks now...Yep, a lot cheaper. A carton of cigarettes cost me $2.00 on base.
No taxes on those.
Only if you live in Colorado.
presonorek
Gold Member
Yes. I pay taxes on them. I pay approximately $32.00 a carton, which includes taxes. The brand is Bronson. Very popular because they are cheaper than other brands.Mine are the left handed smokes...I now buy the cheap ones, Bronson. They cost me $32.00 a carton including tax. I buy them at a Quick-Trip store.Hard to believe they are 30-50 bucks now...Yep, a lot cheaper. A carton of cigarettes cost me $2.00 on base.
No taxes on those.
I was referring to left handed cigarettes. They are only taxed in Colorado.
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