Beyond belief...........

[Weatherman2020]

Fact is, most gun murders are committed by Democrats.

Simply look at where they live, race, and who they like and hate.

 

[eflatminor]

America shot these kids.

Just about the dumbest thing I've read on this forum...and that's saying something.

No, it was a person that shot those kids. A person that pulled a trigger.

Are you suggesting that kids in countries that have banned civilian firearm ownership don't get shot? You really want to go there?

God you're an idiot.

Please list some of the examples of toddler on toddler violence in the civilised world.

Meanwhile in the land of the free......................

Trump fears terrorists, but more Americans are shot dead by toddlers | Gary Younge

Armed toddlers kill twice as many Americans each year as terrorists


Take a knee babe -you are full of shit.

No, you don't get to back peddle out of this one.

Countries don't discharge a firearm, people do, just the like Mexican kid in the link I provided.

Again, you're an idiot.

Americans' fascination with firearms is sick.

My Jewish mother's family, all of which are now ashes in Europe, would disagree. What's sick is government tyranny, What prevents that is free people. People free to speak, free to pray or not, free to pursue happiness and yes, free to protect themselves.

 

[skookerasbil]

Toddler shoots two children with handgun in daycare centre

Two children are in serious but stable condition after allegedly being shot by another toddler at their home day care centre.

A toddler in Dearborn, Michigan “accessed a handgun” in a suburban home where several children were being cared for, police said. The weapon discharged, injuring two 3-year-olds who were present.

An outcome of a sick society.

If only the other toddlers had been armed this might have been avoided.

lol......its a flash to the OP that there are retarded parents in this world!!

Funnier still is the OP thinks banning guns will solve the problem.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Toddler shoots two children with handgun in daycare centre

Two children are in serious but stable condition after allegedly being shot by another toddler at their home day care centre.

A toddler in Dearborn, Michigan “accessed a handgun” in a suburban home where several children were being cared for, police said. The weapon discharged, injuring two 3-year-olds who were present.

An outcome of a sick society.

If only the other toddlers had been armed this might have been avoided.

Actually it's okay and not beyond belief Tommy.

Why?

Because it wasn't done by a Muslim, so it's okay. If you die at the hands of a deranged killer who's a good old Christian, then it's okay, you won't care, the same as if it's done by good old righteous toddlers, no one cares, it's the way it should be. But had it been a Muslim, wow, your death is going to be a horrible one.

No one thinks it's OK.

But people do stupid shit every single day.

More kids die every day from other causes than firearm accidents but somehow only the gun accidents seem to matter to some people.

Of course no one thinks it's okay.

The problem is there are accidents with kids that happen because kids are kids, and then there are accidents with kids that shouldn't have happened in the first place, and the only reason it did happen is because there are too many guns in society.

There are not too many guns,

There are too many irresponsible parents.

More kids drown in backyard pools every year but we don't have too many pools do we?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

We need stronger CAP laws in all States.

I saw a three year old step on a rake and knock out two teeth the other day.

Maybe we should have stronger laws against rakes.

We don't need anything except to accept that things like this will happen and when it does it is a tragedy.

I've always thought that was a very stupid argument. Clearly rakes and guns are not equivalent. In fact, it's overly general. (Substitute any way to get injured that you want, for either the rake or the guns, and the analogy in no less worthless. That's indicates it was worthless to begin with)

So, you are not actually arguing against gun control. You are arguing against ANY gun control at all, and in fact control of anything which could injure us or kill us.

So why should I find your argument compelling? You are not going to convince n
me that we shouldn't regulate any dangerous item or situation, nor do even believe it yourself. Could you somehow tailor your argument to guns, specifically?

Your fallacy is very longwinded.

1. Regulating anything dangerous to people goes on the table when you talk about guns since morons like Timmy can't shut up about them.
2. Rakes, cars, electrical outlets are all pretty dangerous...in fact houses (since they tend to burn down) are pretty bad.
3. Where did I say I was against ANY gun control.
4. I am arguing against "if some is good, more is better" when it comes to any control (gun or otherwise).
5. And no, I am not tailoring it to guns. To do so is to accept your position they somehow deserve special attention.

Tommy tommy tommy....geesh, go talk to tommy, then ..... I am discussing CAP laws.

If you read more carefully, I didn't say that you said you were aginst any gun control. I said you argument (takes) allows for none, or , in fact, of any dangerous items or situations. Also, I said I know you do not believe this...so I kind of said the opposite of what you think i said.

Why regulate poison? I saw a kid need surgery for eating a matchbox car. Should we also regulate matchbox cars?

No, my friend, the fallacy here is all yours, if you say that argument allows for any gun control at all.

You didn't say this.

So, you are not actually arguing against gun control. You are arguing against ANY gun control at all, and in fact control of anything which could injure us or kill us.

......

Now, at the time I assumed you meant limited gun control.....

But hey, it speaks for itself.

Taking the conversation down a different road.

I am not for reactionary regulation.

I prefer to discuss things like this when you don't emotion in the air.

"Now, at the time I assumed you meant limited gun control.....
"Taking the conversation down a different road."

Excuse you ... you asked what I wanted to discuss... I then simply and explicitly stated it. I was met with a very stupid argument by you. I described why the argument was stupid. Now, I'm emotional and changing the subject. Ha, okay. You'll pretty much say anything, won't ya?

 

[frigidweirdo]

Toddler shoots two children with handgun in daycare centre

Two children are in serious but stable condition after allegedly being shot by another toddler at their home day care centre.

A toddler in Dearborn, Michigan “accessed a handgun” in a suburban home where several children were being cared for, police said. The weapon discharged, injuring two 3-year-olds who were present.

An outcome of a sick society.

If only the other toddlers had been armed this might have been avoided.

Actually it's okay and not beyond belief Tommy.

Why?

Because it wasn't done by a Muslim, so it's okay. If you die at the hands of a deranged killer who's a good old Christian, then it's okay, you won't care, the same as if it's done by good old righteous toddlers, no one cares, it's the way it should be. But had it been a Muslim, wow, your death is going to be a horrible one.

No one thinks it's OK.

But people do stupid shit every single day.

More kids die every day from other causes than firearm accidents but somehow only the gun accidents seem to matter to some people.

Of course no one thinks it's okay.

The problem is there are accidents with kids that happen because kids are kids, and then there are accidents with kids that shouldn't have happened in the first place, and the only reason it did happen is because there are too many guns in society.

There are not too many guns,

There are too many irresponsible parents.

More kids drown in backyard pools every year but we don't have too many pools do we?

Fine, too many irresponsible people. Can you ban irresponsible people?

More people die from heart attacks, maybe we should ban hearts, hey? Great argument there.....

 

[Old Rocks]

OK, you second amendment nuts, how often do you see a parent prosecuted for the death of a child that resulted from the parent leaving the gun where the child could get at it? I have commented on this board that such cases should all be handled as negligent homicide. And been accused of trying to politicize an accidental tragedy. Such parents are almost never prosecuted.

 

[2aguy]

OK, you second amendment nuts, how often do you see a parent prosecuted for the death of a child that resulted from the parent leaving the gun where the child could get at it? I have commented on this board that such cases should all be handled as negligent homicide. And been accused of trying to politicize an accidental tragedy. Such parents are almost never prosecuted.

Because prosecutors likely believe a jury won't convict them.......moron. As an asshole, how do you call people defending a Right, nuts? More kids are killed accidentally with cars, yet you don't call car owners nuts......more kids drown, die from poisoning than with guns...but your mental illness that causes you to irrationally fixate on the inanimate object, the gun, has really made you deranged......

 

[2aguy]

Toddler shoots two children with handgun in daycare centre

Two children are in serious but stable condition after allegedly being shot by another toddler at their home day care centre.

A toddler in Dearborn, Michigan “accessed a handgun” in a suburban home where several children were being cared for, police said. The weapon discharged, injuring two 3-year-olds who were present.

An outcome of a sick society.

If only the other toddlers had been armed this might have been avoided.

Actually it's okay and not beyond belief Tommy.

Why?

Because it wasn't done by a Muslim, so it's okay. If you die at the hands of a deranged killer who's a good old Christian, then it's okay, you won't care, the same as if it's done by good old righteous toddlers, no one cares, it's the way it should be. But had it been a Muslim, wow, your death is going to be a horrible one.

No one thinks it's OK.

But people do stupid shit every single day.

More kids die every day from other causes than firearm accidents but somehow only the gun accidents seem to matter to some people.

Of course no one thinks it's okay.

The problem is there are accidents with kids that happen because kids are kids, and then there are accidents with kids that shouldn't have happened in the first place, and the only reason it did happen is because there are too many guns in society.

Moron....there are 74.2 million kids in this country...48 were accidentally killed with guns in 2015...over 1,000 died in car accidents........

16.3 million people carry guns for self defense...48 kids died in gun accidents......

16,300,000 vs. 48

Over 1,000 dead from car accidents.....do you see why we understand that the only reason you care about kids killed with guns is your irrational fixation with guns?

 

[2aguy]

Actually it's okay and not beyond belief Tommy.

Why?

Because it wasn't done by a Muslim, so it's okay. If you die at the hands of a deranged killer who's a good old Christian, then it's okay, you won't care, the same as if it's done by good old righteous toddlers, no one cares, it's the way it should be. But had it been a Muslim, wow, your death is going to be a horrible one.

Typical partisan nonsense by the lunatic left.

If you want to start saving lives then ban autos and cellphones and booze because all those combine do more damage to humans than a fucking gun!

Agreed.

However we all know why the left pushes for the elimination of the 2A. A leftist is first and foremost a big government statist. They believe only the government (and the elites) should have guns. Thus failing to learn from all of civilized history, which clearly shows such arrangements lead to mass murder by the state.

A society well armed is a dangerous society to those that want to implement Trotsky dream.

Most that want the second amendment banished are those that live in urban centers and believe big brother can protect them but those like you and I know better and the only person that can protect you is you.

I have owned guns most of my adult life and never once have I used it against a fellow human.

I hunt with them and keep them for land protection and I am responsible for any death from them if they are used in a criminal act because I did not secure them correctly.

I wish more humans would take responsibility for their laziness and accept the firearm is not the evil but humanity stupidity is the issue here...

Yes...there is a difference between the average run-of-the-mill leftist gun grabber and the elite left. The elite left wants guns taken so they can impose their tyrannical control over all of society. The average leftist as you state, thinks taking guns from law abiding Americans will make them safer. So. one is nefarious and dangerous, and the other is just plain ignorant.

The "elite left" being what?

You have left wing, right wing, and along this scale you move from center to far, the further towards far you get, the more imposing the people become, wanting to tell others how to live their lives. It's on the right and the left.

Wrong....the farther right you go the less and less those individuals want anything to do with other people.....the farthest people on the right move to a cabin in the woods....the people on the left, the socialists....commit mass murder.

 

[2aguy]

Toddler shoots two children with handgun in daycare centre

Two children are in serious but stable condition after allegedly being shot by another toddler at their home day care centre.

A toddler in Dearborn, Michigan “accessed a handgun” in a suburban home where several children were being cared for, police said. The weapon discharged, injuring two 3-year-olds who were present.

An outcome of a sick society.

If only the other toddlers had been armed this might have been avoided.

Actually it's okay and not beyond belief Tommy.

Why?

Because it wasn't done by a Muslim, so it's okay. If you die at the hands of a deranged killer who's a good old Christian, then it's okay, you won't care, the same as if it's done by good old righteous toddlers, no one cares, it's the way it should be. But had it been a Muslim, wow, your death is going to be a horrible one.

Typical partisan nonsense by the lunatic left.

If you want to start saving lives then ban autos and cellphones and booze because all those combine do more damage to humans than a fucking gun!

Agreed.

However we all know why the left pushes for the elimination of the 2A. A leftist is first and foremost a big government statist. They believe only the government (and the elites) should have guns. Thus failing to learn from all of civilized history, which clearly shows such arrangements lead to mass murder by the state.

Funny how wanting to do away with the 2A makes you a big govt fascist.

But wanting to do away with the First Amendment makes you a "patriot".

Who wants to do away with the 1st Amendment...other than left wingers like you? That is why your goon squads in Antigua and black lives matter attack and beat people trying to attend rallies and give speeches....

You assholes hate the entire Bill of Rights.

 

[2aguy]

Toddler shoots two children with handgun in daycare centre

Two children are in serious but stable condition after allegedly being shot by another toddler at their home day care centre.

A toddler in Dearborn, Michigan “accessed a handgun” in a suburban home where several children were being cared for, police said. The weapon discharged, injuring two 3-year-olds who were present.

An outcome of a sick society.

If only the other toddlers had been armed this might have been avoided.

And your point is...?

Children should not have access to guns. But your insane gun laws make it inevitable. America shot these kids.

Try again.

The parent failed the child and not society.

More than 500 children are accidentally shot every year in the US. It's a national tragedy.

48 are killed in gun accidents...over 1,000 are killed in car accidents......and even more are injured in car accidents...yet not one complaint from you guys about allowing 16 year olds to drive them on public roads without adult supervision......

You guys have an irrational fixation on guns...since the fats, the truth and reality show that guns save more lives than they take...innocent lives saved from rape, robbery and murder......

 

[Eloy]

America shot these kids.

Just about the dumbest thing I've read on this forum...and that's saying something.

No, it was a person that shot those kids. A person that pulled a trigger.

Are you suggesting that kids in countries that have banned civilian firearm ownership don't get shot? You really want to go there?

God you're an idiot.

Please list some of the examples of toddler on toddler violence in the civilised world.

Meanwhile in the land of the free......................

Trump fears terrorists, but more Americans are shot dead by toddlers | Gary Younge

Armed toddlers kill twice as many Americans each year as terrorists


Take a knee babe -you are full of shit.

No, you don't get to back peddle out of this one.

Countries don't discharge a firearm, people do, just the like Mexican kid in the link I provided.

Again, you're an idiot.

Americans' fascination with firearms is sick.

My Jewish mother's family, all of which are now ashes in Europe, would disagree. What's sick is government tyranny, What prevents that is free people. People free to speak, free to pray or not, free to pursue happiness and yes, free to protect themselves.

What a brazen nerve you have to use the dead victims of the Final Solution to support your cockeyed notion of Americans needing arsenals for protection.
"An Apple Valley father apparently shot his 2-year-old daughter late Wednesday night when his gun discharged in what investigators described as a cleaning accident." Oh! Brother.
Detectives report 2-year-old girl shot by father cleaning gun

 

[2aguy]

Just about the dumbest thing I've read on this forum...and that's saying something.

No, it was a person that shot those kids. A person that pulled a trigger.

Are you suggesting that kids in countries that have banned civilian firearm ownership don't get shot? You really want to go there?

God you're an idiot.

Please list some of the examples of toddler on toddler violence in the civilised world.

Meanwhile in the land of the free......................

Trump fears terrorists, but more Americans are shot dead by toddlers | Gary Younge

Armed toddlers kill twice as many Americans each year as terrorists


Take a knee babe -you are full of shit.

No, you don't get to back peddle out of this one.

Countries don't discharge a firearm, people do, just the like Mexican kid in the link I provided.

Again, you're an idiot.

Americans' fascination with firearms is sick.

My Jewish mother's family, all of which are now ashes in Europe, would disagree. What's sick is government tyranny, What prevents that is free people. People free to speak, free to pray or not, free to pursue happiness and yes, free to protect themselves.

What a brazen nerve you have to use the dead victims of the Final Solution to support your cockeyed notion of Americans needing arsenals for protection.
"An Apple Valley father apparently shot his 2-year-old daughter late Wednesday night when his gun discharged in what investigators described as a cleaning accident." Oh! Brother.
Detectives report 2-year-old girl shot by father cleaning gun

Mass murder happened in Europe because the people of Europe gave up their guns in order to be safe.....and their governments surrendered 12 million of them to socialist gas chambers and death camps....

You don't car about kids dying in accidents......since more kids die in car accidents...you have an irrational fixation on guns....

How many kids died in gun accidents in 2015......out of 74.2 million kids.... 48.

How many kids die in car accidents....

Teenage Car Accident Statistics - Aceable

According to the AAA Foundation, 371,645 people were injured and 2,927 were killed in crashes that involved a teen driver in 2013.

Table for teen driving deaths...
Fatality Facts

Total car accidental death....

Leading Causes of Death | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC

Death by car and gun by age, 2015...

<1.... Car 64, .....Gun 1

1-4.... Car 332, ...Gun 25

5-9.... Car 351, .....Gun 7

10-14.... Car 412, .....Gun 15

15-19.... Car 2,535, .....Gun 52

Total Car.... 3,694

Total Gun.... 100

Total car accidental death....

2015....36,161
2014....33,736
2013....33,804
2012....34,935

Total gun accidental death...

Leading Causes of Death | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC

2015...489

2014.....486
2013 ..... 505
2012 ..... 548
2011 ..... 591
2010 ..... 606
2009 ..... 554
2008 ..... 592
2007..... 613
2006..... 642
2005 ..... 789
2004 ..... 649
2003 ..... 730
2002 ..... 762
2001 ..... 802
2000 ..... 776
1999 ..... 824

So excuse us if we don't take your concern about accidental deaths by guns seriously....since so many other ways to die accidentally outnumber gun accidental deaths......

https://www.cdc.gov/injury/wisqars/leading_causes_death.html

Cars, Accidental deaths 2015......36,161

Poisons...accidental deaths 2015...47,478

gravity....accidental falling deaths 2015...33,381
Accidental drowning 2015 .....3,602
Accidental suffocation 2015...6,914
Accidental Machiinery 2015... 550

Accidental gun death 2015... 489

 

[Leo123]

Toddler shoots two children with handgun in daycare centre

Two children are in serious but stable condition after allegedly being shot by another toddler at their home day care centre.

A toddler in Dearborn, Michigan “accessed a handgun” in a suburban home where several children were being cared for, police said. The weapon discharged, injuring two 3-year-olds who were present.

An outcome of a sick society.

If only the other toddlers had been armed this might have been avoided.

B fucking S.....It was an accident. I thought liberals believed in Darwin.

 

[gipper]

OK, you second amendment nuts, how often do you see a parent prosecuted for the death of a child that resulted from the parent leaving the gun where the child could get at it? I have commented on this board that such cases should all be handled as negligent homicide. And been accused of trying to politicize an accidental tragedy. Such parents are almost never prosecuted.

Why would a person who thinks a mother can murder her unborn child whenever she wants, care about a child killed by a gun? It is entirely nonsensical.

Stop being a dupe for the elite left.

 

[gipper]

Please list some of the examples of toddler on toddler violence in the civilised world.

Meanwhile in the land of the free......................

Trump fears terrorists, but more Americans are shot dead by toddlers | Gary Younge

Armed toddlers kill twice as many Americans each year as terrorists


Take a knee babe -you are full of shit.

No, you don't get to back peddle out of this one.

Countries don't discharge a firearm, people do, just the like Mexican kid in the link I provided.

Again, you're an idiot.

Americans' fascination with firearms is sick.

My Jewish mother's family, all of which are now ashes in Europe, would disagree. What's sick is government tyranny, What prevents that is free people. People free to speak, free to pray or not, free to pursue happiness and yes, free to protect themselves.

What a brazen nerve you have to use the dead victims of the Final Solution to support your cockeyed notion of Americans needing arsenals for protection.
"An Apple Valley father apparently shot his 2-year-old daughter late Wednesday night when his gun discharged in what investigators described as a cleaning accident." Oh! Brother.
Detectives report 2-year-old girl shot by father cleaning gun

Mass murder happened in Europe because the people of Europe gave up their guns in order to be safe.....and their governments surrendered 12 million of them to socialist gas chambers and death camps....

You don't car about kids dying in accidents......since more kids die in car accidents...you have an irrational fixation on guns....

How many kids died in gun accidents in 2015......out of 74.2 million kids.... 48.

How many kids die in car accidents....

Teenage Car Accident Statistics - Aceable

According to the AAA Foundation, 371,645 people were injured and 2,927 were killed in crashes that involved a teen driver in 2013.

Table for teen driving deaths...
Fatality Facts

Total car accidental death....

Leading Causes of Death | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC

Death by car and gun by age, 2015...

<1.... Car 64, .....Gun 1

1-4.... Car 332, ...Gun 25

5-9.... Car 351, .....Gun 7

10-14.... Car 412, .....Gun 15

15-19.... Car 2,535, .....Gun 52

Total Car.... 3,694

Total Gun.... 100

Total car accidental death....

2015....36,161
2014....33,736
2013....33,804
2012....34,935

Total gun accidental death...

Leading Causes of Death | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC

2015...489

2014.....486
2013 ..... 505
2012 ..... 548
2011 ..... 591
2010 ..... 606
2009 ..... 554
2008 ..... 592
2007..... 613
2006..... 642
2005 ..... 789
2004 ..... 649
2003 ..... 730
2002 ..... 762
2001 ..... 802
2000 ..... 776
1999 ..... 824

So excuse us if we don't take your concern about accidental deaths by guns seriously....since so many other ways to die accidentally outnumber gun accidental deaths......

https://www.cdc.gov/injury/wisqars/leading_causes_death.html

Cars, Accidental deaths 2015......36,161

Poisons...accidental deaths 2015...47,478

gravity....accidental falling deaths 2015...33,381
Accidental drowning 2015 .....3,602
Accidental suffocation 2015...6,914
Accidental Machiinery 2015... 550

Accidental gun death 2015... 489

If the Left can't be hypocritical, they can't be anything. Their demand for gun control or confiscation is entirely hypocritical, as you have so effectively pointed out.

The gun issue is much like the Left's hypocrisy on so many issues today. Think Black Lives Matter and the NFL idiots protesting cops shooting blacks when on any given weekend in Chicago, more blacks are shot by other blacks than cops shooting blacks in an entire year.

It is amazing how easy the left elite can dupe some Americans over and over again.

 

[Moonglow]

No, you don't get to back peddle out of this one.

Countries don't discharge a firearm, people do, just the like Mexican kid in the link I provided.

Again, you're an idiot.

Americans' fascination with firearms is sick.

My Jewish mother's family, all of which are now ashes in Europe, would disagree. What's sick is government tyranny, What prevents that is free people. People free to speak, free to pray or not, free to pursue happiness and yes, free to protect themselves.

What a brazen nerve you have to use the dead victims of the Final Solution to support your cockeyed notion of Americans needing arsenals for protection.
"An Apple Valley father apparently shot his 2-year-old daughter late Wednesday night when his gun discharged in what investigators described as a cleaning accident." Oh! Brother.
Detectives report 2-year-old girl shot by father cleaning gun

Mass murder happened in Europe because the people of Europe gave up their guns in order to be safe.....and their governments surrendered 12 million of them to socialist gas chambers and death camps....

You don't car about kids dying in accidents......since more kids die in car accidents...you have an irrational fixation on guns....

How many kids died in gun accidents in 2015......out of 74.2 million kids.... 48.

How many kids die in car accidents....

Teenage Car Accident Statistics - Aceable

According to the AAA Foundation, 371,645 people were injured and 2,927 were killed in crashes that involved a teen driver in 2013.

Table for teen driving deaths...
Fatality Facts

Total car accidental death....

Leading Causes of Death | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC

Death by car and gun by age, 2015...

<1.... Car 64, .....Gun 1

1-4.... Car 332, ...Gun 25

5-9.... Car 351, .....Gun 7

10-14.... Car 412, .....Gun 15

15-19.... Car 2,535, .....Gun 52

Total Car.... 3,694

Total Gun.... 100

Total car accidental death....

2015....36,161
2014....33,736
2013....33,804
2012....34,935

Total gun accidental death...

Leading Causes of Death | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC

2015...489

2014.....486
2013 ..... 505
2012 ..... 548
2011 ..... 591
2010 ..... 606
2009 ..... 554
2008 ..... 592
2007..... 613
2006..... 642
2005 ..... 789
2004 ..... 649
2003 ..... 730
2002 ..... 762
2001 ..... 802
2000 ..... 776
1999 ..... 824

So excuse us if we don't take your concern about accidental deaths by guns seriously....since so many other ways to die accidentally outnumber gun accidental deaths......

https://www.cdc.gov/injury/wisqars/leading_causes_death.html

Cars, Accidental deaths 2015......36,161

Poisons...accidental deaths 2015...47,478

gravity....accidental falling deaths 2015...33,381
Accidental drowning 2015 .....3,602
Accidental suffocation 2015...6,914
Accidental Machiinery 2015... 550

Accidental gun death 2015... 489

If they Left can't be hypocritical, they can't be anything. Their demand for gun control or confiscation is entirely hypocritical, as you have so effectively pointed out.

The gun issue is much like the Left's hypocrisy on so many issues today. Think Black Lives Matter and the NFL idiots protesting cops shooting blacks when on any given weekend in Chicago, more blacks are shot by other blacks than cops shooting blacks in an entire year.

It is amazing how easy the left elite can dupe some Americans over and over again.

Except cops are suppose to be above the level of thug life..

 

[gipper]

Americans' fascination with firearms is sick.

My Jewish mother's family, all of which are now ashes in Europe, would disagree. What's sick is government tyranny, What prevents that is free people. People free to speak, free to pray or not, free to pursue happiness and yes, free to protect themselves.

What a brazen nerve you have to use the dead victims of the Final Solution to support your cockeyed notion of Americans needing arsenals for protection.
"An Apple Valley father apparently shot his 2-year-old daughter late Wednesday night when his gun discharged in what investigators described as a cleaning accident." Oh! Brother.
Detectives report 2-year-old girl shot by father cleaning gun

Mass murder happened in Europe because the people of Europe gave up their guns in order to be safe.....and their governments surrendered 12 million of them to socialist gas chambers and death camps....

You don't car about kids dying in accidents......since more kids die in car accidents...you have an irrational fixation on guns....

How many kids died in gun accidents in 2015......out of 74.2 million kids.... 48.

How many kids die in car accidents....

Teenage Car Accident Statistics - Aceable

According to the AAA Foundation, 371,645 people were injured and 2,927 were killed in crashes that involved a teen driver in 2013.

Table for teen driving deaths...
Fatality Facts

Total car accidental death....

Leading Causes of Death | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC

Death by car and gun by age, 2015...

<1.... Car 64, .....Gun 1

1-4.... Car 332, ...Gun 25

5-9.... Car 351, .....Gun 7

10-14.... Car 412, .....Gun 15

15-19.... Car 2,535, .....Gun 52

Total Car.... 3,694

Total Gun.... 100

Total car accidental death....

2015....36,161
2014....33,736
2013....33,804
2012....34,935

Total gun accidental death...

Leading Causes of Death | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC

2015...489

2014.....486
2013 ..... 505
2012 ..... 548
2011 ..... 591
2010 ..... 606
2009 ..... 554
2008 ..... 592
2007..... 613
2006..... 642
2005 ..... 789
2004 ..... 649
2003 ..... 730
2002 ..... 762
2001 ..... 802
2000 ..... 776
1999 ..... 824

So excuse us if we don't take your concern about accidental deaths by guns seriously....since so many other ways to die accidentally outnumber gun accidental deaths......

https://www.cdc.gov/injury/wisqars/leading_causes_death.html

Cars, Accidental deaths 2015......36,161

Poisons...accidental deaths 2015...47,478

gravity....accidental falling deaths 2015...33,381
Accidental drowning 2015 .....3,602
Accidental suffocation 2015...6,914
Accidental Machiinery 2015... 550

Accidental gun death 2015... 489

If they Left can't be hypocritical, they can't be anything. Their demand for gun control or confiscation is entirely hypocritical, as you have so effectively pointed out.

The gun issue is much like the Left's hypocrisy on so many issues today. Think Black Lives Matter and the NFL idiots protesting cops shooting blacks when on any given weekend in Chicago, more blacks are shot by other blacks than cops shooting blacks in an entire year.

It is amazing how easy the left elite can dupe some Americans over and over again.

Except cops are suppose to be above the level of thug life..

Once again you post stupidity but are so stupid, you don't know it. Of course bad cops exist, just like idiots (you) exist.

Is pushing division and hatred between races over a minor problem, more important than stopping a much larger problem?

Don't answer please...being an idiot, I know you don't know the answer.

 

[Moonglow]

My Jewish mother's family, all of which are now ashes in Europe, would disagree. What's sick is government tyranny, What prevents that is free people. People free to speak, free to pray or not, free to pursue happiness and yes, free to protect themselves.

What a brazen nerve you have to use the dead victims of the Final Solution to support your cockeyed notion of Americans needing arsenals for protection.
"An Apple Valley father apparently shot his 2-year-old daughter late Wednesday night when his gun discharged in what investigators described as a cleaning accident." Oh! Brother.
Detectives report 2-year-old girl shot by father cleaning gun

Mass murder happened in Europe because the people of Europe gave up their guns in order to be safe.....and their governments surrendered 12 million of them to socialist gas chambers and death camps....

You don't car about kids dying in accidents......since more kids die in car accidents...you have an irrational fixation on guns....

How many kids died in gun accidents in 2015......out of 74.2 million kids.... 48.

How many kids die in car accidents....

Teenage Car Accident Statistics - Aceable

According to the AAA Foundation, 371,645 people were injured and 2,927 were killed in crashes that involved a teen driver in 2013.

Table for teen driving deaths...
Fatality Facts

Total car accidental death....

Leading Causes of Death | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC

Death by car and gun by age, 2015...

<1.... Car 64, .....Gun 1

1-4.... Car 332, ...Gun 25

5-9.... Car 351, .....Gun 7

10-14.... Car 412, .....Gun 15

15-19.... Car 2,535, .....Gun 52

Total Car.... 3,694

Total Gun.... 100

Total car accidental death....

2015....36,161
2014....33,736
2013....33,804
2012....34,935

Total gun accidental death...

Leading Causes of Death | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC

2015...489

2014.....486
2013 ..... 505
2012 ..... 548
2011 ..... 591
2010 ..... 606
2009 ..... 554
2008 ..... 592
2007..... 613
2006..... 642
2005 ..... 789
2004 ..... 649
2003 ..... 730
2002 ..... 762
2001 ..... 802
2000 ..... 776
1999 ..... 824

So excuse us if we don't take your concern about accidental deaths by guns seriously....since so many other ways to die accidentally outnumber gun accidental deaths......

https://www.cdc.gov/injury/wisqars/leading_causes_death.html

Cars, Accidental deaths 2015......36,161

Poisons...accidental deaths 2015...47,478

gravity....accidental falling deaths 2015...33,381
Accidental drowning 2015 .....3,602
Accidental suffocation 2015...6,914
Accidental Machiinery 2015... 550

Accidental gun death 2015... 489

If they Left can't be hypocritical, they can't be anything. Their demand for gun control or confiscation is entirely hypocritical, as you have so effectively pointed out.

The gun issue is much like the Left's hypocrisy on so many issues today. Think Black Lives Matter and the NFL idiots protesting cops shooting blacks when on any given weekend in Chicago, more blacks are shot by other blacks than cops shooting blacks in an entire year.

It is amazing how easy the left elite can dupe some Americans over and over again.

Except cops are suppose to be above the level of thug life..

Once again you post stupidity but are so stupid, you don't know it. Of course bad cops exist, just like idiots (you) exist.

Is pushing division and hatred between races over a minor problem, more important than stopping a much larger problem?

Don't answer please...being an idiot, I know you don't know the answer.

Callous disregard is what you, thugs and the cops operate upon..Enjoy your cruddy crust of so called justice from law and order...