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Ha ha ha what a buffoon! Since when does the Muslim who pretends to be Catholic quote the ONE Protestant version that has it spelled incorrectly? As opposed to ALL the other versions, that has it spelled Philistia. And I'd be careful calling them the same considering what is said about the Philistines in the Bible! Now go peddle your fraud elsewhere, fly that buzzes and lands shit all the time. LOLYou're always so fulla shit and lies! The actual word is PHILISTIA, and God condemned and destroyed it! Funny how you assholes latch on to this one mistaken version like shit to flies. Ya gotta love it!Before that the region's inhabitants had other loci of identity:
1 - Ottoman
2 - Arab
3 - Muslim, Christian and Jew
4 - The arab clan the individual belonged to
The palestinian identity was practically non-existent.
Palestine and the people of Palestine were known 500 years before the birth of Christ (Herodotus). And, they are mentioned in the Bible.
"Exodus 15:14
The people shall hear, and be afraid: sorrow shall take hold on the inhabitants of Palestina.”
EXODUS 15:14 KJV "The people shall hear, [and] be afraid: sorrow shall take hold on the inhabitants of Palestina."
Exodus 15:14 The nations will hear and tremble; anguish will grip the people of Philistia.
Verse (Click for Chapter)
New International Version
The nations will hear and tremble; anguish will grip the people of Philistia.
New Living Translation
The peoples hear and tremble; anguish grips those who live in Philistia.
English Standard Version
The peoples have heard; they tremble; pangs have seized the inhabitants of Philistia.
New American Standard Bible
"The peoples have heard, they tremble; Anguish has gripped the inhabitants of Philistia.
King James Bible
The people shall hear, and be afraid: sorrow shall take hold on the inhabitants of Palestina.
Holman Christian Standard Bible
When the peoples hear, they will shudder; anguish will seize the inhabitants of Philistia.
International Standard Version
"The people heard and they quaked, anguish has seized the inhabitants of Philistia.
NET Bible
The nations will hear and tremble; anguish will seize the inhabitants of Philistia.
New Heart English Bible
The peoples have heard. They tremble. Pangs have taken hold on the inhabitants of Philistia.
GOD'S WORD® Translation
People will hear of it and tremble. The people of Philistia will be in anguish.
JPS Tanakh 1917
The peoples have heard, they tremble; Pangs have taken hold on the inhabitants of Philistia.
New American Standard 1977
“The peoples have heard, they tremble;
Anguish has gripped the inhabitants of Philistia.
Jubilee Bible 2000
The peoples shall hear and be afraid; sorrow shall take hold on the inhabitants of Philistia.
King James 2000 Bible
The people shall hear, and be afraid: sorrow shall take hold on the inhabitants of Philistia.
American King James Version
The people shall hear, and be afraid: sorrow shall take hold on the inhabitants of Palestina.
American Standard Version
The peoples have heard, they tremble: Pangs have taken hold on the inhabitants of Philistia.
Douay-Rheims Bible
Nations rose up, and were angry: sorrows took hold on the inhabitants of Philisthiim.
Darby Bible Translation
The peoples heard it, they were afraid: A thrill seized the inhabitants of Philistia.
English Revised Version
The peoples have heard, they tremble: Pangs have taken hold on the inhabitants of Philistia.
World English Bible
The peoples have heard. They tremble. Pangs have taken hold on the inhabitants of Philistia.
Young's Literal Translation
Peoples have heard, they are troubled; Pain hath seized inhabitants of Philistia.
Palestine and Philistia are the same place in Greek you idiot. And, the King James version is what the Protestants use and it says Palestina.
Lie of Palestine
A grievous, if not willful, mistake frequently occurring in Christian publications is labeling the Land given by divine covenant to Jacob and his posterity as "Palestine." The English word translates the Greek Palaistinē and the Hebrew Palestina, neither of which occurs anywhere in Scripture. The original Bible term is P’leshet (LXX Phulistieim), which occurs eight times in the Tanakh (Ex 15:14, Ps 60:8; 83:7; 87:4;108:9; Isa 14:29, 31; Joel 3:4), always referring to Mediterranean coastal region of Israel, called Philistia, occupied by the Philistines (p’lishti) (BDB 814).
The venerable King James Version inexplicably renders p'leshet as "Palestina" at Exodus 15:14; Isaiah 14:29, and 31, and yet in the rest of the occurrences of p'leshettranslates the word as Philistia or Philistines. Christians have substituted "Palestine" for Israel, especially the titles of Bible maps or on the geographical boundaries shown on Bible maps, on the assumption that "Palestine" is a neutral term without political connotations. Nothing could be further from the truth. Calling biblical Israel or the present State of Israel "Palestine" is not simply inaccurate, but demeans God's choice of the name "Israel."
Why Is a book of blank pages of value beyond fad? Like mein Kampf...is it not another vehicle to spread hate?amazon pulls a blank book, but Mein Kampf is still being sold?????
A blank book is free speech. Mein Kampf is hate speech that lead the death of millions
Palestinians spend $24 million on a museum in the West Bank, that has no exhibits, but a book that makes the best seller list gets pulled (at least on one site)?
More alice in wonderland un-logic
Arabs and palestinians for decades did not consider "palestinian" was anything but a tool to destroy Israel.
They were not a people, not really. In the 70's a history and culture was created.
They were arabs, egyptians, jordanians, syrians
The mandate was Jerusalem, Acre, Nablus sanjuks. Similar divisions through what is now Syria and Lebanon, divided into city states with outline land around them. People identified by the city or sanjuk they lived in.
But now they are a people and the only purpose of such a book is to deny them their identity
I would have no problem with a book about the palestinian national identity with few words or even without a single word written about the period prior to 1880.
Besides the social, economic and political background upon which it started to develop, there's really nothing to write about a national consciousness that hadn't even begun to form yet.
So my first question would be whether this book has any real research in it or if it is just revisionist.price from $6-20 depending on store
A History of the Palestinian People: From Ancient Times to the Modern ...
https://www.amazon.com/History-Palestinian-People-Ancient-Modern/.../154683124&tag=ff0d01-20...
Assaf Voll was born and raised in Nir Etzion, on the Carmel Mountains, and currently resides in Tel Aviv, Israel. He is a publicist, editor and creative specialist.
the revelation.......
New Book On Palestinian History: 120 Blank Pages
The Bible and the Balfour Declaration give us pretty good research on the Jews. There is little doubt they originated in Babylonia and migrated ultimately to Egypt and then under Moses (Moshe in Hebrew) back up to the Levant (land of Canaan).Why Is a book of blank pages of value beyond fad? Like mein Kampf...is it not another vehicle to spread hate?amazon pulls a blank book, but Mein Kampf is still being sold?????
A blank book is free speech. Mein Kampf is hate speech that lead the death of millions
Palestinians spend $24 million on a museum in the West Bank, that has no exhibits, but a book that makes the best seller list gets pulled (at least on one site)?
More alice in wonderland un-logic
Arabs and palestinians for decades did not consider "palestinian" was anything but a tool to destroy Israel.
They were not a people, not really. In the 70's a history and culture was created.
They were arabs, egyptians, jordanians, syrians
The mandate was Jerusalem, Acre, Nablus sanjuks. Similar divisions through what is now Syria and Lebanon, divided into city states with outline land around them. People identified by the city or sanjuk they lived in.
But now they are a people and the only purpose of such a book is to deny them their identity
"created" in the last 45 yrs, not an ancient history predating Israel that would fill volumes.
If the UN had not established a refugee agency for them, they would have been absorbed by the arab world. Many of the same countries that forced more than a million jews to leave communities they had lived in for hundreds of years.
We have all been hoping palestinians could come to a negotiated agreement so they could eventually have their own state, just not one based only on extreme palestinian demands that put Israel at risk or leads to the destruction of Israel and the jewish people. Right now palestinians are fracture groups, not a people, unfortunately. More than half the people, even within the WB and G still see themselves and are treated as refugees living off global welfare. Camps within PA territory should have been shut down long ago. Instead terrorist use them as shelters to carry out militant operations out of, even hospitals and schools.
Why is a blank history any less valid that one fabricated by what was at the time a terrorist group, Fatah, in refugee camps?
Why is a book less valid than palestinians build a $24 million museum just north of Ramallah with no history. At best they have the occasional culture event such a poetry reading since they have nothing else of their own to display.
Where is the long palestinian history when to be able to qualify as a refugee, they had only to have lived and worked in the mandate for two years?
Places like amazon sell books on the most far fetch conspiracy theories and out right fiction as fact. Why should a blank book (in more than three languages) that made the best seller list be pulled as racist 10 days after it came out?
Death threat, hate speech, threats if war, terrorism and genocide are rampant around the world, and in many places protected. How is a blank book more dangerous or hateful? TV, newspapers, books, movies and social media in every language can spew the most vial propaganda, but "no words" is more threatening?
People shout racist hate in the streets in the US and around the world, burn flags and effigies, destroy property, call for murder and violent riots on near a weekly basis over one topic or another. Why is "silence" so damnable?
Only violence and hate speech is permitted, but a different view point that is not shared by a select few is forbidden?
Palestinians/radical arabs have tried to erase the history of the jewish people and wipe out all evidence to their historic ties to Israel for more than two hundred years, but that is perfectly permissible?
José you seem pretty well versed in one side of the debate.Originally posted by aris2chat
"There is no such country as Palestine. 'Palestine' is a term the Zionists invented. There is no Palestine in the Bible. Our country was for centuries part of Syria. 'Palestine' is alien to us. It is the Zionists who introduced it".
- Auni Bey Abdul-Hadi, Syrian Arab leader to British Peel Commission, 1937 -
"There is no such thing as Palestine in history, absolutely not".
- Professor Philip Hitti, Arab historian, 1946 -
"It is common knowledge that Palestine is nothing but Southern Syria".
- Representant of Saudi Arabia at the United Nations, 1956 -
Concerning the Holy Land, the chairman of the Syrian Delegation at the Paris Peace Conference in February 1919 stated:
"The only Arab domination since the Conquest in 635 c.e. hardly lasted, as such, 22 years".
"There are no differences between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. We are all part of one nation. It is only for political reasons that we carefully underline our Palestinian identity... yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity serves only tactical purposes. The founding of a Palestinian state is a new tool in the continuing battle against Israel".
- Zuhair Muhsin, military commander of the PLO and member of the PLO Executive Council -
"You do not represent Palestine as much as we do. Never forget this one point: There is no such thing as a Palestinian people, there is no Palestinian entity, there is only Syria. You are an integral part of the Syrian people, Palestine is an integral part of Syria. Therefore it is we, the Syrian authorities, who are the true representatives of the Palestinian people".
- Syrian dictator Hafez Assad to the PLO leader Yassir Arafat -
"And thereafter We [Allah] said to the Children of Israel: 'Dwell securely in the Promised Land. And when the last warning will come to pass, we will gather you together in a mingled crowd'.".
- Qur'an 17:104 -
>>The Arabic name for Jerusalem is "Al-QuDS" (The Holy), which is abbreviation for another Arabic name used for Jerusalem until the last century, "Bayt al-MaQDeS" (The Holy House), since the 10th century c.e. The name "Bayt al-MaQDeS" is a translation of the Hebrew "Beyt ha-MiKDaSH", which means "House of Holiness", "Temple". But Islam has no Temple, only the Jews did. <<
Another candidate for the next Nobel Peace Prize...
The palestinian people do not exist.
You don't have millions of arabs living in Gaza, WB, Jordan, Lebannon, etc... longing to return to their places of origin in Lydda, Haifa, Ikrit, Jerusalem, who participate in massive peaceful protests alongside the jordanian/israeli border, the lebanese/israeli border, and who are and willing to join the armed struggle for their rights.
You don't have millions of arabs willing to endure blockades, embargos and all kinds of economic hardships designed to strongarm them into renouncing their natural rights.
You don't have millions of arabs who after being the targets of military onslaught after military onslaught, write dozens of petitions with hundreds of thousands of signatures asking Arafat not to compromise their rights.
You don't have millions of arab children who visualize and draw the map of Palestine without Israel in it when you ask them about their homeland.
You don't have any of that.
In the parallel universe inhabited by the racist Jew and the super patriotic american clown the palestinian people is a fraud and the entire Israeli/Palestinian conflict is a figment of the imagination.
So what's Netanyahu waiting for to start demolishing the separation wall, the fences around gaza and disband the IDF?
There has been a new resurgence of Mein Kampf sales in Germany as the modern generation of German millennials searches for their true past identity and decides to learn about Adolf and about the Kaiser first hand themselves.amazon pulls a blank book, but Mein Kampf is still being sold?????
A blank book is free speech. Mein Kampf is hate speech that lead the death of millions
Palestinians spend $24 million on a museum in the West Bank, that has no exhibits, but a book that makes the best seller list gets pulled (at least on one site)?
More alice in wonderland un-logic
Also true of one's enemies. You must dehumanize them before you can kill them with a clear conscience.It is a standard colonial practice to dehumanize the natives.
What do you think is the purpose of the book?Why Is a book of blank pages of value beyond fad? Like mein Kampf...is it not another vehicle to spread hate?amazon pulls a blank book, but Mein Kampf is still being sold?????
A blank book is free speech. Mein Kampf is hate speech that lead the death of millions
Palestinians spend $24 million on a museum in the West Bank, that has no exhibits, but a book that makes the best seller list gets pulled (at least on one site)?
More alice in wonderland un-logic
Arabs and palestinians for decades did not consider "palestinian" was anything but a tool to destroy Israel.
They were not a people, not really. In the 70's a history and culture was created.
They were arabs, egyptians, jordanians, syrians
The mandate was Jerusalem, Acre, Nablus sanjuks. Similar divisions through what is now Syria and Lebanon, divided into city states with outline land around them. People identified by the city or sanjuk they lived in.
But now they are a people and the only purpose of such a book is to deny them their identity
"created" in the last 45 yrs, not an ancient history predating Israel that would fill volumes.
If the UN had not established a refugee agency for them, they would have been absorbed by the arab world. Many of the same countries that forced more than a million jews to leave communities they had lived in for hundreds of years.
We have all been hoping palestinians could come to a negotiated agreement so they could eventually have their own state, just not one based only on extreme palestinian demands that put Israel at risk or leads to the destruction of Israel and the jewish people. Right now palestinians are fracture groups, not a people, unfortunately. More than half the people, even within the WB and G still see themselves and are treated as refugees living off global welfare. Camps within PA territory should have been shut down long ago. Instead terrorist use them as shelters to carry out militant operations out of, even hospitals and schools.
Why is a blank history any less valid that one fabricated by what was at the time a terrorist group, Fatah, in refugee camps?
Why is a book less valid than palestinians build a $24 million museum just north of Ramallah with no history. At best they have the occasional culture event such a poetry reading since they have nothing else of their own to display.
Where is the long palestinian history when to be able to qualify as a refugee, they had only to have lived and worked in the mandate for two years?
Places like amazon sell books on the most far fetch conspiracy theories and out right fiction as fact. Why should a blank book (in more than three languages) that made the best seller list be pulled as racist 10 days after it came out?
Death threat, hate speech, threats if war, terrorism and genocide are rampant around the world, and in many places protected. How is a blank book more dangerous or hateful? TV, newspapers, books, movies and social media in every language can spew the most vial propaganda, but "no words" is more threatening?
People shout racist hate in the streets in the US and around the world, burn flags and effigies, destroy property, call for murder and violent riots on near a weekly basis over one topic or another. Why is "silence" so damnable?
Only violence and hate speech is permitted, but a different view point that is not shared by a select few is forbidden?
Palestinians/radical arabs have tried to erase the history of the jewish people and wipe out all evidence to their historic ties to Israel for more than two hundred years, but that is perfectly permissible?
But now they are a people and the only purpose of such a book is to deny them their identity
Originally the Palestinians were the Phillistines mentioned by the ancient writers of the Tenakh (Old Testament).
Nor a connection between biblical jews from a book that is not an historical reference with today's mass murdering European zionists who call themselves jews.Originally the Palestinians were the Phillistines mentioned by the ancient writers of the Tenakh (Old Testament).
There is no cultural connection between the modern Arab Palestinians and the ancient Philistines. It is false to equate the two.
LMAO, Gee, wonder why. Oh yeah, that's right... IT IS PALESTINE!
Nor a connection between biblical jews from a book that is not an historical reference with today's mass murdering European zionists who call themselves jews.
Indeed, and "terrorist" is constantly used by Israeli propagandists.Also true of one's enemies. You must dehumanize them before you can kill them with a clear conscience.It is a standard colonial practice to dehumanize the natives.
That's why in the past we called people Rags, Sand Nggrs, Commies, Gooks, Krauts, Japs, Reb's, Redcoats, Injuns, and the like.
