Battle of New Orleans

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Jackson's energy got results, and timely reinforcements from Kentucky and Tennessee brought his available forces to a little over 5,000. After several minor attacks in December, the British launced their grand assault at dawn of January, 1815. It was a foolhardy attempt - an attack in close columns against earthworks defended by artillery and riflemen whose aim was known to be deadly. The assault ended in a terrible defeat for the British. The British lost their 3 highest ranking officers, some 2000 other casualties, and the city of New Orleans.

The victory at New Orleans had no military importance, for it was fought 2 weeks after the treaty ofpeace had been signed. ( Beg to differ - had the Brits won at NO - they would not had honored the treaty - or held out for much stiffer terms.)

But it did have great political and psychological importance. It was the only major victory that American forces won on land during the War of 1812. It gave Americans a reason to congratulate themselves that they had finished the war in a blaze of glory. And it made Jackson a national hero.

Source: World Book Encyclopedia



The Flanders campaign of 1917 was one of the most insane and brutal blood-baths in the history of war. The first phase of this "final battle" shattered the French Army. Troops refused to attack, and 21,000 deserted outright.

General Haig, the British Commander, beleived he was a "Man of Destiny" - he found casualties of 70% "highly satisfactory."

Troops attacked through hip-deep slime and mud, were cut to pieces by German machine guns. Losses: 30,000 per attack.

Staff officers deliberately falisified reports, announced frequent "victories." The few corrospondents who visited the fron where appalled by the slaughter.

Prime Minister Lloyd George secretly referred to his army chief as "brutal" and "fatuous" - but lacked the courage to replace him.

For 8 months the attacks ground away. When winter and lack of "cannon fodder" brought them to a halt, 500,000 men had been killed, wounded, gassed or driven insane in Flanders Fields.

For this fearfull price, Haig had gained just 4 and 1/2 miles!

"In Flanders Fields, the poppies grow, row on row......"

Source: In Flanders Fields, by Leon Wolff - 1958

Makes you wonder how these people defeated Napolean, gained a world empire that the sun never sets on, or maintained their independence.
 
Not at all. The Brits have fought many a war.... and won the majority of them. Their Military is one to be admired.
 
And dumb luck and help. Like with the Prussians and others against Napolean, and in both World Wars.....................
 
Dumb-luck, certainly. Help, certainly in WW2 in the form of Commonwealth and American support. For which we were very grateful, even if we have trouble showing now-and-again. But not in WW1. The British Empire bore the biggest loss in terms of men and materials.

And it's also worth remembering that in order for Europe to be free of Nazi tyranny, we essentially sacrificed our mighty empire. After asking so many of our imperial subjects to drop what they were doing to defend the mother country, denying them autonomy afterwards would be madness. And as a result, we lost India. We lost our territories in Africa and the Carribean.

So, just because America helped-out, don't think that it was she alone that won WW2. She wasn't. And she arrived late, as usual.

No, Britain called upon her loyal imperial subjects, and they valiantly answered her call. And they drew Nazi blood long before any Americans had the guts to meet their gaze.
 
Jackson's energy got results, and timely reinforcements from Kentucky and Tennessee brought his available forces to a little over 5,000. After several minor attacks in December, the British launced their grand assault at dawn of January, 1815. It was a foolhardy attempt - an attack in close columns against earthworks defended by artillery and riflemen whose aim was known to be deadly. The assault ended in a terrible defeat for the British. The British lost their 3 highest ranking officers, some 2000 other casualties, and the city of New Orleans.

The victory at New Orleans had no military importance, for it was fought 2 weeks after the treaty ofpeace had been signed. ( Beg to differ - had the Brits won at NO - they would not had honored the treaty - or held out for much stiffer terms.)

But it did have great political and psychological importance. It was the only major victory that American forces won on land during the War of 1812. It gave Americans a reason to congratulate themselves that they had finished the war in a blaze of glory. And it made Jackson a national hero.

Source: World Book Encyclopedia



The Flanders campaign of 1917 was one of the most insane and brutal blood-baths in the history of war. The first phase of this "final battle" shattered the French Army. Troops refused to attack, and 21,000 deserted outright.

General Haig, the British Commander, beleived he was a "Man of Destiny" - he found casualties of 70% "highly satisfactory."

Troops attacked through hip-deep slime and mud, were cut to pieces by German machine guns. Losses: 30,000 per attack.

Staff officers deliberately falisified reports, announced frequent "victories." The few corrospondents who visited the fron where appalled by the slaughter.

Prime Minister Lloyd George secretly referred to his army chief as "brutal" and "fatuous" - but lacked the courage to replace him.

For 8 months the attacks ground away. When winter and lack of "cannon fodder" brought them to a halt, 500,000 men had been killed, wounded, gassed or driven insane in Flanders Fields.

For this fearfull price, Haig had gained just 4 and 1/2 miles!

"In Flanders Fields, the poppies grow, row on row......"

Source: In Flanders Fields, by Leon Wolff - 1958

Makes you wonder how these people defeated Napolean, gained a world empire that the sun never sets on, or maintained their independence.

If you have a problem with THESE people, as you so charmingly refer to them, Why not just come out and say it...instead of trying to use a couple of sentences from the vast annals of military history in an attempt to support your agenda.
 
classic

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And dumb luck and help. Like with the Prussians and others against Napolean, and in both World Wars.....................

The British Army was kicking ass before America even existed. They were one of the world's greatest Superpowers. And they did it all from a tiny little island that we could slot into the state of California and not even notice it was there.

Their military rocked. They still rock.
 
Most of the interesting maneuvers in the battle of New Orleans occurred outside of the famous battlefield. The actual battlefield at Chalmette is about the size of a postage stamp. It's a shame it hasn't been better preserved.
 
And dumb luck and help. Like with the Prussians and others against Napolean, and in both World Wars.....................

The British Army was kicking ass before America even existed. They were one of the world's greatest Superpowers. And they did it all from a tiny little island that we could slot into the state of California and not even notice it was there.

Their military rocked. They still rock.

We still are one the world's greatest Superpowers. But your gracious sentiments are warmly recieved nonetheless.

Thank you, California Girl.
 
USA didn't need any HELP to win wars.

If the Nazis had conguered Soviet Union, AND the Japs the entire far east incl China - we would have prevailed in the long run.

Won about 70% of WW2 anyway
 
USA didn't need any HELP to win wars.

If the Nazis had conguered Soviet Union, AND the Japs the entire far east incl China - we would have prevailed in the long run.

Bullshit. Where would you have launched your heavy bomber force from to confront the Nazi's. Considering that America didn't have access to long-range rockets.

Your logic is about as sound as your grasp is on reality.
 
I love the song by Johnny Horton........:clap2::clap2::clap2:

Jackson's energy got results, and timely reinforcements from Kentucky and Tennessee brought his available forces to a little over 5,000. After several minor attacks in December, the British launced their grand assault at dawn of January, 1815. It was a foolhardy attempt - an attack in close columns against earthworks defended by artillery and riflemen whose aim was known to be deadly. The assault ended in a terrible defeat for the British. The British lost their 3 highest ranking officers, some 2000 other casualties, and the city of New Orleans.

The victory at New Orleans had no military importance, for it was fought 2 weeks after the treaty ofpeace had been signed. ( Beg to differ - had the Brits won at NO - they would not had honored the treaty - or held out for much stiffer terms.)

But it did have great political and psychological importance. It was the only major victory that American forces won on land during the War of 1812. It gave Americans a reason to congratulate themselves that they had finished the war in a blaze of glory. And it made Jackson a national hero.

Source: World Book Encyclopedia



The Flanders campaign of 1917 was one of the most insane and brutal blood-baths in the history of war. The first phase of this "final battle" shattered the French Army. Troops refused to attack, and 21,000 deserted outright.

General Haig, the British Commander, beleived he was a "Man of Destiny" - he found casualties of 70% "highly satisfactory."

Troops attacked through hip-deep slime and mud, were cut to pieces by German machine guns. Losses: 30,000 per attack.

Staff officers deliberately falisified reports, announced frequent "victories." The few corrospondents who visited the fron where appalled by the slaughter.

Prime Minister Lloyd George secretly referred to his army chief as "brutal" and "fatuous" - but lacked the courage to replace him.

For 8 months the attacks ground away. When winter and lack of "cannon fodder" brought them to a halt, 500,000 men had been killed, wounded, gassed or driven insane in Flanders Fields.

For this fearfull price, Haig had gained just 4 and 1/2 miles!

"In Flanders Fields, the poppies grow, row on row......"

Source: In Flanders Fields, by Leon Wolff - 1958

Makes you wonder how these people defeated Napolean, gained a world empire that the sun never sets on, or maintained their independence.
 
USA didn't need any HELP to win wars.

If the Nazis had conguered Soviet Union, AND the Japs the entire far east incl China - we would have prevailed in the long run.

Won about 70% of WW2 anyway

:lol: Better get that empty head into some history books.
 
The Japs main attack on th US mainland was pathetic ballon--bombs which set off minor fires in Oregon forest.


LOL
 
And dumb luck and help. Like with the Prussians and others against Napolean, and in both World Wars.....................

The British Army was kicking ass before America even existed. They were one of the world's greatest Superpowers. And they did it all from a tiny little island that we could slot into the state of California and not even notice it was there.

Their military rocked. They still rock.

We still are one the world's greatest Superpowers. But your gracious sentiments are warmly recieved nonetheless.

Thank you, California Girl.

A great nation - yes. A superpower.... hmmmm, not so much. You had your day. Now is ours. Ours will end and another will take our place - probably China.

On the bright side.... No one with an IQ over 25 can fail to recognize Britain's role in the world.
 
A superpower is a state with a dominant position in the international system which has the ability to influence events and its own interests and project power on a worldwide scale to protect those interests. A superpower is traditionally considered to be one step higher than a great power.

We qualify on all counts. Though I concede, and you have no idea how much this pains me, you do indeed have bigger teeth. But you still come to us first when you want to knock heads together.

And I hope that when we do eventually knock on North Korea's door, we'll do it hand in motherfucking hand.
 
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