Battle of New Orleans

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    Jackson's energy got results, and timely reinforcements from Kentucky and Tennessee brought his available forces to a little over 5,000. After several minor attacks in December, the British launced their grand assault at dawn of January, 1815. It was a foolhardy attempt - an attack in close columns against earthworks defended by artillery and riflemen whose aim was known to be deadly. The assault ended in a terrible defeat for the British. The British lost their 3 highest ranking officers, some 2000 other casualties, and the city of New Orleans.

    The victory at New Orleans had no military importance, for it was fought 2 weeks after the treaty ofpeace had been signed. ( Beg to differ - had the Brits won at NO - they would not had honored the treaty - or held out for much stiffer terms.)

    But it did have great political and psychological importance. It was the only major victory that American forces won on land during the War of 1812. It gave Americans a reason to congratulate themselves that they had finished the war in a blaze of glory. And it made Jackson a national hero.

    Source: World Book Encyclopedia



    The Flanders campaign of 1917 was one of the most insane and brutal blood-baths in the history of war. The first phase of this "final battle" shattered the French Army. Troops refused to attack, and 21,000 deserted outright.

    General Haig, the British Commander, beleived he was a "Man of Destiny" - he found casualties of 70% "highly satisfactory."

    Troops attacked through hip-deep slime and mud, were cut to pieces by German machine guns. Losses: 30,000 per attack.

    Staff officers deliberately falisified reports, announced frequent "victories." The few corrospondents who visited the fron where appalled by the slaughter.

    Prime Minister Lloyd George secretly referred to his army chief as "brutal" and "fatuous" - but lacked the courage to replace him.

    For 8 months the attacks ground away. When winter and lack of "cannon fodder" brought them to a halt, 500,000 men had been killed, wounded, gassed or driven insane in Flanders Fields.

    For this fearfull price, Haig had gained just 4 and 1/2 miles!

    "In Flanders Fields, the poppies grow, row on row......"

    Source: In Flanders Fields, by Leon Wolff - 1958

    Makes you wonder how these people defeated Napolean, gained a world empire that the sun never sets on, or maintained their independence.
     
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    Not at all. The Brits have fought many a war.... and won the majority of them. Their Military is one to be admired.
     
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    Adaptability, guile and ruthlessness.
     
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    And dumb luck and help. Like with the Prussians and others against Napolean, and in both World Wars.....................
     
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    Dumb-luck, certainly. Help, certainly in WW2 in the form of Commonwealth and American support. For which we were very grateful, even if we have trouble showing now-and-again. But not in WW1. The British Empire bore the biggest loss in terms of men and materials.

    And it's also worth remembering that in order for Europe to be free of Nazi tyranny, we essentially sacrificed our mighty empire. After asking so many of our imperial subjects to drop what they were doing to defend the mother country, denying them autonomy afterwards would be madness. And as a result, we lost India. We lost our territories in Africa and the Carribean.

    So, just because America helped-out, don't think that it was she alone that won WW2. She wasn't. And she arrived late, as usual.

    No, Britain called upon her loyal imperial subjects, and they valiantly answered her call. And they drew Nazi blood long before any Americans had the guts to meet their gaze.
     
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    If you have a problem with THESE people, as you so charmingly refer to them, Why not just come out and say it...instead of trying to use a couple of sentences from the vast annals of military history in an attempt to support your agenda.
     
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    classic

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    orrr

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    Yeah, it's sort of teh funneh how folks with a couple of brain cells stick together,

    ISN'T IT?

    Cripes.
     
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    The war of Spanish succession...... Marlborough..he was a real person not just a cigarette brand.
     
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    The British Army was kicking ass before America even existed. They were one of the world's greatest Superpowers. And they did it all from a tiny little island that we could slot into the state of California and not even notice it was there.

    Their military rocked. They still rock.
     

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