Ban Guns - Murder Rates Rise

[longknife]

Should that surprise anyone other than Leftsts/Progressives? Town after town, country after country. The statistics speak for themselves.

So, think banning guns is going to solve America’s murder problem? The data should tell you to think again.

Yes, in spite of the fact that we’ve been told that Mr. and Mrs. America turning all their guns in is the best way to fix violence, that’s actually a complete lie. And the Crime Prevention Resource Center has the numbers to prove it.

The 2013 study looked at murder rates from places that had banned guns around the world, from Washington, D.C. and Chicago to England, Wales, Jamaica and even the Solomon Islands, an archipelago in the South Pacific which only had mass shootings after they decided to ban guns.

Much more @ Exhaustive Study: Murder Rates Rise Every Place that Bans Guns

 

[harmonica]

England's murder rate is about 4 times lower than the US

 

[Pop23]

Should that surprise anyone other than Leftsts/Progressives? Town after town, country after country. The statistics speak for themselves.

So, think banning guns is going to solve America’s murder problem? The data should tell you to think again.

Yes, in spite of the fact that we’ve been told that Mr. and Mrs. America turning all their guns in is the best way to fix violence, that’s actually a complete lie. And the Crime Prevention Resource Center has the numbers to prove it.

The 2013 study looked at murder rates from places that had banned guns around the world, from Washington, D.C. and Chicago to England, Wales, Jamaica and even the Solomon Islands, an archipelago in the South Pacific which only had mass shootings after they decided to ban guns.

Much more @ Exhaustive Study: Murder Rates Rise Every Place that Bans Guns

Two points. Passing law which relies on the cooperation of criminals to be successful is a fools game.

Why are governments sanctioning which weapons a law abiding citizen can use in self defense? Would these lawmakers care what weapon was used to repel an attack on their own child?

Good post.

 

[Pop23]

England's murder rate is about 4 times lower than the US

Because they have few Metro areas in comparison. Metro areas are where most criminal activities are done.

 

[Skull Pilot]

England's murder rate is about 4 times lower than the US

On it's own that is a meaningless statistic.

You cannot prove that UK gun laws and the gun laws alone are responsible for their lower murder rate

 

[harmonica]

England's murder rate is about 4 times lower than the US

Because they have few Metro areas in comparison. Metro areas are where most criminal activities are done.

..but the OP link is saying banning guns makes homicide rates higher--but England's murder rate is 4 times lower

gun controlled NYcity population 8.500,000 2017 murders 290
very pro-gun ST Louis pop. 320,000 murders 199

gun controlled LA--lower murder rate than STL
Chicago lower murder rate than STL
these cities are much denser than STL
no--it's not so much a metro problem
and remember the other big factor--gun laws are not national in the US

 

[Skull Pilot]

England's murder rate is about 4 times lower than the US

Because they have few Metro areas in comparison. Metro areas are where most criminal activities are done.

..but the OP link is saying banning guns makes homicide rates higher--but England's murder rate is 4 times lower

gun controlled NYcity population 8.500,000 2017 murders 290
very pro-gun ST Louis pop. 320,000 murders 199

gun controlled LA--lower murder rate than STL
Chicago lower murder rate than STL
these cities are much denser than STL
no--it's not so much a metro problem
and remember the other big factor--gun laws are not national in the US

But it is higher than it was before the gun bans you moron.

 

[harmonica]

England's murder rate is about 4 times lower than the US

On it's own that is a meaningless statistic.

You cannot prove that UK gun laws and the gun laws alone are responsible for their lower murder rate

fact--England murder rate lower
...ok---so with your same reasoning--[ hahahhahah ] the OP can't prove banning guns raises murder rates

 

[Pop23]

England's murder rate is about 4 times lower than the US

Because they have few Metro areas in comparison. Metro areas are where most criminal activities are done.

..but the OP link is saying banning guns makes homicide rates higher--but England's murder rate is 4 times lower

gun controlled NYcity population 8.500,000 2017 murders 290
very pro-gun ST Louis pop. 320,000 murders 199

gun controlled LA--lower murder rate than STL
Chicago lower murder rate than STL
these cities are much denser than STL
no--it's not so much a metro problem
and remember the other big factor--gun laws are not national in the US

And all still Metro.

 

[harmonica]

England's murder rate is about 4 times lower than the US

On it's own that is a meaningless statistic.

You cannot prove that UK gun laws and the gun laws alone are responsible for their lower murder rate

so you do understand?? by your reasoning the OP is a meaningless statistic

 

[Skull Pilot]

England's murder rate is about 4 times lower than the US

On it's own that is a meaningless statistic.

You cannot prove that UK gun laws and the gun laws alone are responsible for their lower murder rate

fact--England murder rate lower
...ok---so with your same reasoning--[ hahahhahah ] the OP can't prove banning guns raises murder rates

Irrelevant.

The UK had a lower murder rate than we did even before they started banning guns.

But when they started banning guns their own murder rate went up not down and it is higher now than it was before they started banning guns.

That is also a FACT

 

[Pop23]

England's murder rate is about 4 times lower than the US

On it's own that is a meaningless statistic.

You cannot prove that UK gun laws and the gun laws alone are responsible for their lower murder rate

fact--England murder rate lower
...ok---so with your same reasoning--[ hahahhahah ] the OP can't prove banning guns raises murder rates

Rates increasing in England does not imply success. It implies the opposite.

 

[Timmy]

Should that surprise anyone other than Leftsts/Progressives? Town after town, country after country. The statistics speak for themselves.

So, think banning guns is going to solve America’s murder problem? The data should tell you to think again.

Yes, in spite of the fact that we’ve been told that Mr. and Mrs. America turning all their guns in is the best way to fix violence, that’s actually a complete lie. And the Crime Prevention Resource Center has the numbers to prove it.

The 2013 study looked at murder rates from places that had banned guns around the world, from Washington, D.C. and Chicago to England, Wales, Jamaica and even the Solomon Islands, an archipelago in the South Pacific which only had mass shootings after they decided to ban guns.

Much more @ Exhaustive Study: Murder Rates Rise Every Place that Bans Guns

Two points. Passing law which relies on the cooperation of criminals to be successful is a fools game.

Why are governments sanctioning which weapons a law abiding citizen can use in self defense? Would these lawmakers care what weapon was used to repel an attack on their own child?

Good post.

Your logic is “why pass laws if criminals won’t obey “?

No one is out to ban all guns . Gun control keeps guns out the hands of crazy and criminals .

 

[Pop23]

Should that surprise anyone other than Leftsts/Progressives? Town after town, country after country. The statistics speak for themselves.

So, think banning guns is going to solve America’s murder problem? The data should tell you to think again.

Yes, in spite of the fact that we’ve been told that Mr. and Mrs. America turning all their guns in is the best way to fix violence, that’s actually a complete lie. And the Crime Prevention Resource Center has the numbers to prove it.

The 2013 study looked at murder rates from places that had banned guns around the world, from Washington, D.C. and Chicago to England, Wales, Jamaica and even the Solomon Islands, an archipelago in the South Pacific which only had mass shootings after they decided to ban guns.

Much more @ Exhaustive Study: Murder Rates Rise Every Place that Bans Guns

Two points. Passing law which relies on the cooperation of criminals to be successful is a fools game.

Why are governments sanctioning which weapons a law abiding citizen can use in self defense? Would these lawmakers care what weapon was used to repel an attack on their own child?

Good post.

Your logic is “why pass laws if criminals won’t obey “?

No one is out to ban all guns . Gun control keeps guns out the hands of crazy and criminals .

How does this accomplish any goal when it relies on criminals adhering to it?

 

[Skull Pilot]

England's murder rate is about 4 times lower than the US

On it's own that is a meaningless statistic.

You cannot prove that UK gun laws and the gun laws alone are responsible for their lower murder rate

so you do understand?? by your reasoning the OP is a meaningless statistic

No that's your reasoning.

You think murder rates are solely controlled by gun laws. They aren't

That the murder rate rose after the UK banned guns is a fact. I never said it was the gun bans that caused the increase did I?

No I did not.

Gun laws have little or no effect on murder rates or suicide rates.

NH is the state with the lowest murder rate in the US and it also has very lax gun laws.
Every state with very strict gun laws has a higher murder rate than NH

Japan has very strict gun laws and yet has a much higher suicide rate than the US

Therefore one can and should conclude that gun laws have no effect on murder or suicide rates.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Should that surprise anyone other than Leftsts/Progressives? Town after town, country after country. The statistics speak for themselves.

So, think banning guns is going to solve America’s murder problem? The data should tell you to think again.

Yes, in spite of the fact that we’ve been told that Mr. and Mrs. America turning all their guns in is the best way to fix violence, that’s actually a complete lie. And the Crime Prevention Resource Center has the numbers to prove it.

The 2013 study looked at murder rates from places that had banned guns around the world, from Washington, D.C. and Chicago to England, Wales, Jamaica and even the Solomon Islands, an archipelago in the South Pacific which only had mass shootings after they decided to ban guns.

Much more @ Exhaustive Study: Murder Rates Rise Every Place that Bans Guns

Two points. Passing law which relies on the cooperation of criminals to be successful is a fools game.

Why are governments sanctioning which weapons a law abiding citizen can use in self defense? Would these lawmakers care what weapon was used to repel an attack on their own child?

Good post.

Your logic is “why pass laws if criminals won’t obey “?

No one is out to ban all guns . Gun control keeps guns out the hands of crazy and criminals .

But it doesn't.

 

[Pop23]

Should that surprise anyone other than Leftsts/Progressives? Town after town, country after country. The statistics speak for themselves.

So, think banning guns is going to solve America’s murder problem? The data should tell you to think again.

Yes, in spite of the fact that we’ve been told that Mr. and Mrs. America turning all their guns in is the best way to fix violence, that’s actually a complete lie. And the Crime Prevention Resource Center has the numbers to prove it.

The 2013 study looked at murder rates from places that had banned guns around the world, from Washington, D.C. and Chicago to England, Wales, Jamaica and even the Solomon Islands, an archipelago in the South Pacific which only had mass shootings after they decided to ban guns.

Much more @ Exhaustive Study: Murder Rates Rise Every Place that Bans Guns

Two points. Passing law which relies on the cooperation of criminals to be successful is a fools game.

Why are governments sanctioning which weapons a law abiding citizen can use in self defense? Would these lawmakers care what weapon was used to repel an attack on their own child?

Good post.

Your logic is “why pass laws if criminals won’t obey “?

No one is out to ban all guns . Gun control keeps guns out the hands of crazy and criminals .

But it doesn't.

Timmy’s argument defies logic.

 

[jknowgood]

Should that surprise anyone other than Leftsts/Progressives? Town after town, country after country. The statistics speak for themselves.

So, think banning guns is going to solve America’s murder problem? The data should tell you to think again.

Yes, in spite of the fact that we’ve been told that Mr. and Mrs. America turning all their guns in is the best way to fix violence, that’s actually a complete lie. And the Crime Prevention Resource Center has the numbers to prove it.

The 2013 study looked at murder rates from places that had banned guns around the world, from Washington, D.C. and Chicago to England, Wales, Jamaica and even the Solomon Islands, an archipelago in the South Pacific which only had mass shootings after they decided to ban guns.

Much more @ Exhaustive Study: Murder Rates Rise Every Place that Bans Guns

Two points. Passing law which relies on the cooperation of criminals to be successful is a fools game.

Why are governments sanctioning which weapons a law abiding citizen can use in self defense? Would these lawmakers care what weapon was used to repel an attack on their own child?

Good post.

Your logic is “why pass laws if criminals won’t obey “?

No one is out to ban all guns . Gun control keeps guns out the hands of crazy and criminals .

Unless you have programs like the one Obama enacted in Florida, which let a criminal buy a gun.