Attorney General Eric Holder--in trouble again--this time over gun ownership.

[Harry Dresden]

and it never answered the question

he is still looking up the gun at toys r us.....

 

[Chris]

The real question is, where do you draw the line?

Should RPGs be legal?

What about grenades?

Or automatic weapons?

How much firepower do we want the gangs to have?

 

[DiveCon]

The real question is, where do you draw the line?

Should RPGs be legal?

What about grenades?

Or automatic weapons?

How much firepower do we want the gangs to have?

wrong, the real question is you dont know what an assault rifle is and even when you post the legal definition, you cant tell what is or what ISNT one by that definition

 

[LOki]

The second amendment is about a well-regulated militia.

Wrong. The 2nd Amendment is about the right of the People to keep and bear arms.

Key words...."well-regulated."

Wrong again. the key words . . . "shall not be infringed."

Keeping powerful military weapons out of the hands of criminals is very important.

Not to you--keeping powerful military weapons out of the hands of law abiding folk is the sole purpose for your gun control measures.

But gun lovers don't care about deaths of 6,000 people or the near destruction of Mexican society because they have no empathy for the suffering of others. That's why they keep losing elections.

Provided we're talking about the deaths of 6,000 law abiding, yet unarmed people, who died out of lack of capacity to mount any effective defense of their lives, I'd say you are entirely full of shit regarding "gun lovers"--it's the gun control crowd who demonstrates their disregard for the lives and liberty of peace loving people.

 

[LOki]

It's happening right here in Central Florida. Only six years ago, officers in Orlando and Orange County seized 15 high-powered AK-47s and AR-15s. Four years later, that number grew to 79, a jump of more than 400 percent.

These guns are not in the hands of good people trying to protect themselves.

Of course not . . . every step folks like you have taken is to render the good people incaple of defending themselves with these weapons.

No one is trying to trample on Second Amendment rights.

You are . . . in so far as you and those like you are attempting to infringe upon the right of the People to keep and bear arms.

But there do not seem to be many examples where honest citizens stopped a crime, or caught a criminal, by brandishing an AK-47 or some similar brand of assault rifle.

Perhaps if the right to keep and bear such weapons were not illegally infringed upon you might see such defenses more often.

However, there are too many examples of the opposite -- criminals using these weapons to kill people or law-enforcement officers.

Of course, that is the patently obvious point of passing gun control laws.

The latest one occurred in Miami last week, when an unknown assailant fired an AK-47 into a crowd of teenagers, murdering two youths and wounding seven others.

Who shot back?

Sound familiar? Last October, two killers fired 58 rounds from two AK-47s during a gunfight in Pine Hills that left two men dead.

It is familiar, gun control laws disarm the peaceful, and the violent take full advantage.

Orlando Police Chief Val Demings has seen enough. Getting guns off the streets is one of her top priorities. The same holds true for Jerry Demings, recently elected sheriff in Orange County.

If guns are really the problem, why don't they start with themselves?

Their challenge is daunting: Almost 10 illegal guns a day are seized in this community.

Too bad they don't seize violent criminals instead.

The lines between a legal and an illegal gun are blurry.

The constitutional step would be to recognize all weapons as legal.

In Florida, guns are readily available to anyone without a criminal record.

What is your problem with this?

But guns routinely end up in the hands of criminals.

Do you mean to tell me that these criminals do not subject themselves to a backgroud check? I thought background checks keep guns out of the hands of criminals--I think YOU said so!

All it takes is a "straw purchase," when a friend or relative buys a gun for a criminal.

Criminals?

It's time to make some of that more-potent firepower illegal -- period.

Nonsense. It's time to remove the obstacles that infringe upon the right of the People to possess that more-potent firepower.

After the latest incident in Miami, Police Chief John Timoney said that the percentage of homicides involving assault weapons jumped to 29 percent of all shooting fatalities in 2008. Mr. Timoney implored Congress to reinstate the ban.

We think: A renewed federal assault weapons ban is long overdue -- OrlandoSentinel.com

Idiots. Or criminals. Or Totalitarians. You pick.

 

[DiveCon]

LOKi, Chris doesnt even know what is or what isnt an assault rifle
he can post a definition, but he cant tell what actually fits that definition

 

[LOki]

Military style assault weapons have no legitimate use.

Self defense, and the security of a free state.

They need to be banned.

So says the totlalitarian statist.

We don't let people own RPGs.

A direct violation of the 2nd.

This is no different.

Correct. It is unconstitutional.

 

[LOki]

Criminals don't have to ignore the law.

They just break it.

The legality of assault weapons makes it easier for criminals to get these guns.

The legality of assult weapons is irrelevent to criminals.

How fucking stupid are you?

 

[LOki]

Guns should be regulated just like cars are regulated.

They should all be functional, and effective for their designed purpose. End of regulation.

Outlawing assault weapons and requiring background checks will not interfere with anyone's rights to defend themselves.

Out lawing assault weapons is a PATENT INFRINGMENT of the right to keep and bear arms, it is interfereing with the right to defend one's self in so far as it is an interference with obtaining the tools for the effective defense of one's self.

 

[LOki]

Military assault rifles have no legitimate use.

They should be banned.

Just like RPGs or grenades.

Explain that to the military and the police.

 

[LOki]

Assault weapons have no legitimate purpose.

End of story.

Explain that to the miliatary and the police.

 

[LOki]

The real question is, where do you draw the line?

I'm game.

Should RPGs be legal?

Yes.

What about grenades?

Yes.

Or automatic weapons?

Yes.

How much firepower do we want the gangs to have?

Depends upon the "gang." Gangs of criminals, none. Gangs of regular folks, as much as they want.

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

ROFL... Oh that's gonna leave a mark... sadly it won't make an impression... but it's DEFINITELY gonna leave a mark.

 

[Chris]

The NRA.

Making it easy for criminals to get guns.

It's a public service.

 

[DiveCon]

more lies from chris the moron

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

It's the BEST SHE CAN DO!

The great part is that WERE HOLDER HERE, instead of Chris... SHE wouldn't do any better; iF Bubba Clinton were here instead of Chrissy... Bubba being the gal who hired Holder to argue their 2nd amendment kill shot to the SCOTUS; SHE would not do any better...

I've argued the 2nd amendment on these boards for well over a decade, and there is not a scintilla of reason in the entire depth of this boil on the ass of a free people...