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Oh I completely understand the burden of proof.W
OK then. Here's your chance to prove to me that God didn't create the Universe.
Thank you for proving that
(1) You're merely posting flamebait
(2) You fail to understand the burden of proof
(3) You have no understanding of cosmology
Atheists don't believe in God so I ask them:
"How was the universe created if not by God?"
You won't even try to answer the question JB because you know you can't. I can shoot down any scientific theory you may post.
And as for flamebaiting, I would never try to muscle in on your territory JB.
Where is the beginning and end of this structure?Oh I completely understand the burden of proof.W
OK then. Here's your chance to prove to me that God didn't create the Universe.
Thank you for proving that
(1) You're merely posting flamebait
(2) You fail to understand the burden of proof
(3) You have no understanding of cosmology
Atheists don't believe in God so I ask them:
"How was the universe created if not by God?"
You won't even try to answer the question JB because you know you can't. I can shoot down any scientific theory you may post.
And as for flamebaiting, I would never try to muscle in on your territory JB.
Great observation EagleSeven!Trick question; the Earth wasn't "created." It was formed.
Formed how?
Ah the # 1 Atheist buzz phrase, "Flying Spagheti Monster". That phrase is on about a 3rd grade level and ranks up there with "I know you are, but what am I".
So all believers in all other religions think at a third grade level, but you're somehow different?
.Give a few examples of some of those things that are explained by science.
There has to be a creator for all things
Okay, agreed- Now who created God? I'll tell you... We exist in the 'third' dimension, experiencing three physical dimensions and traveling through time. Your god is said to exist outside this- but only so much. Since your god is only credited with being able to see all points in our space continuum- existing outside of 'spacetime'-, this puts your god in the fourth dimension. However, that is on;y a single possible universe, and true omnipotence and omniscience requires an awareness of all possible universes and at all possible points in their respective timelines. Just as our 'now' and our current universe comes into being through our observation, and everything beyond our current observation is vaguely probabilistic (take for example photons taking every possible path until observed), our universe would have come into being through your god's observation of it. However, your god's dimension would have in turn only have taken form when observed by an even higher deity in the fifth dimension, and so on until we reach the [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjsgoXvnStY"]10th dimension[/ame], where the highest gods conceivable by Man dwell. Beyond this, outside of all fields of human imagination, totally beyond all possible realms of Man's knowledge rests the true God of all Gods. Some know this god as M, other know 'him' as FSM. (OF course, FSM has no gender as we know them to be; this is merely convention). Now, as (FS)M sings his eternal song (which filters through the many dimensions, resulting in Tolkien's and the judeo-christian perception of an angelic choir) his very body vibrates. The vibrations of his noodley appendages is what non-believers call 'superstrings' when sepaking of (FS)M) 'theory' (whuich, if you recall is simply a term for anything Man cannot directly observe and can therefore not be called 'fact' using scientific conventions) Got it? See, it's quite simple, really, making your ignorance quite inexcusable.
You worship a created being, while those who seek the truth acknowledge FSM (or M for short) and look past the lesser beings that shortsighted individuals like yourself get stuck on
Unlike your nearsighted religion, this understanding of His Noodliness (who is, of course not really made of spaghetti; this is merely a conventional way of attempting to describe Him) is derived from logic, reason, and the cutting edge of scientific inquiry, as well as the personal revelation on which you are dependent.
The Humble Gautama gratefully accepts your assertion that he is as ignorant of the FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER ( FSM)
First Lesson. (FS)M is not a literal flying noodle monster. I mean, think about it. How could the creator of the universe be flying around in the universe prior to creating it?
Second Lesson,(FS)M truly is the 'God of Gods'. Christianity even acknowledges this, in a way. The attributes of YHWH place him in the 5th or possible 6th dimension ([ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjsgoXvnStY"]The Ten Dimensions[/ame]). As science is now proving M's divine form manifests as innumerable 'superstrings' or 'spaghetti-like' appendages, which vibrate in harmony as He hums and sings His heavenly song. These vibrations ultimately give rise to the most fundamental particles and aspects of the Omniverse, including all observable aspects of our own Universe. Science is now coming to realize the Truth of His nature. The reference to spaghetti, much like the use gender-specific pronouns, is merely a result of out limited understanding.I know zippo, nada, zilch about the exotic and esoteric super duper God of all Gods...FSM.
Third Lesson: Anyone who claims to be a 'prophet' of M (commonly known as FSM) or to be M incarnate is a liar. Remember the 7th RRYD:
I'd Really Rather You Didn't Go Around Telling People I Talk To You. You're Not That Interesting. Get Over Yourself. And I Told You To Love Your Fellow Man, Can't You Take A Hint?
I advise against such dedicationPlease .... I promise not to eat, sleep, urinate or even defecate ..... until I hear from you !!!
Again, I'm not trying to prove the existence of God. I already believe.I don't have an answer although I haven't seen proof it could only be formed by a God.
Although if we really must go into this, even if you could prove there's a God you can't prove that it was the Christian/Jewish/Muslim/whatever God.
(I edited your post down to manageable levels)First Lesson. (FS)M is not a literal flying noodle monster. I mean, think about it. How could the creator of the universe be flying around in the universe prior to creating it?
This what I'm trying to ask you non-believers but you refuse to answer.Where is the beginning and end of this structure?
The Möbius-strip nature of the space-time continuum makes questions of creation and apocalypse largely irrelevant.
OK. If it happened as you say then why and how did that star explode?Did you know that the formation of the earth began with an exploding star?
Again, The Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster is a religion and can't be referenced. Read the rules!
Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster
Rack up another failure for you.
.JB the flying spaghetti monster was originally made to mock the 'teach alternate theories' idea when it comes to creationism. It's since evolved into parody of religion in general.
That is but falsities spread by the Deceiver, who manifests in many forms (disguising itself as Kthulu, mocking {FS}M's noodley goodness and as the evil SNIKTA, who rails against {FS}M's carbohydrate goodness and deceives man with the false religion of carnivarism, for instance). Even modern science testifies to the truth of (FS)M(-'theory') and the gentle vibration of his appendages (oft described as 'noodley', but known to some as 'SuperStrings)' in harmony to 'His' diving song (which reverberates through the 10 knowable dimensions of 'His' creation and has been heard and interpreted as a 'heavenly' choir by christians and a song of 'angels' that created the earth by Tolkien, who sadly only know but part of the greatness of {FS}M)
I have explained this before
The Prophet has simply refused to correct these lies and further attest to the reality of (FS)M out of devotion, in accordance with the first and seventh IRRYD's
-RAmen
.That is but falsities spread by the Deceiver, who manifests in many forms (disguising itself as Kthulu, mocking {FS}M's noodley goodness and as the evil SNIKTA, who rails against {FS}M's carbohydrate goodness and deceives man with the false religion of carnivarism, for instance). Even modern science testifies to the truth of (FS)M(-'theory') and the gentle vibration of his appendages (oft described as 'noodley', but known to some as 'SuperStrings)' in harmony to 'His' diving song (which reverberates through the 10 knowable dimensions of 'His' creation and has been heard and interpreted as a 'heavenly' choir by christians and a song of 'angels' that created the earth by Tolkien, who sadly only know but part of the greatness of {FS}M)
I have explained this before
The Prophet has simply refused to correct these lies and further attest to the reality of (FS)M out of devotion, in accordance with the first and seventh IRRYD's
-RAmen
You have no answer do you?Branes and strings and divine noodley things...
Branes and strings and divine noodley things...OK. If it happened as you say then why and how did that star explode?Did you know that the formation of the earth began with an exploding star?
You're only showing me an effect, I want the cause.
Where did the fuel come from?Star run out of fuel, go "boom"...
Hindu is a religion. Go re-read the rules of this thread or have somebody read them to you.I'm gonna go with number three of the top ten creation myths until another one seems more reasonable.
"The Hindu cosmology contains many myths of creation...
Wow. None of you atheists can put out any theory about the creation of the universe without mentioning religion.
You guys haven't thought about it much have you? Sad and pathetic.
For the simple reason that you are begging the question. The very word "creation" in this context implies the existence of a creator, when there is no evidence that anything is ever created out of nothing.Wow. None of you atheists can put out any theory about the creation of the universe without mentioning religion.