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I like how these imposter America-hating terrorist worshippers keep calling themselves "real Americans". Ha ha ha.
Turkey is turning more and more Islamist and does not like the idea of having a secular Syria.
Not only am I a real American I, unlike you, have served in the U.S. military and in combat.
Yeah, but despite all your pretending and charade we know you're an antisemetic convert to Islam who also hates America.
Turkey has turned Islamist, but that's not why it has turned anti Assad. Turkey and the other secular Arab narions have turned anti Assad because they are seeing him slaughter up hundreds of thousands of innocent fellow Sunni Muslims, and causing a huge refugee crisis across the region.
Did we catch dufus lying again?
What secular Arab countries would that include. Seems that ISIS, Al Nousra and Al Qaeda are the ones doing most of the killing and they are Sunni.
Jordan and Egypt for two. But the entire ME including your beloved Hamas and Paleshitians and are anti Assad (after of course supporting him initially). You're still a DUFUS PUNK. Ha ha ha.
Jordan and Egypt are not secular in the way Syria was. There are no Christian ministers in those governments and no Christian military officers. And you are still an ignorant little turd.
You know exactly what sites I mean. Beside that is every site a terrorist propaganda site that publishes terrorist propaganda. Your torture photos are western produced propaganda, probably from one of the various US torture prisons in many countries. Today it is 40 thousand pics, tomorrow its 55.000 and then it is 35 thousand. Of course only the few example photos that have been in the media exist. And of course there is no sign from where the pics could come from. Nothing but propaganda.While crawling on terrorist propaganda websites you claim to have connections to Syria. But you have nothing but the order to spread terrorist propaganda in the name of Uncle Sam. Shame on you and Uncle Sam.She is as eager to falsely blame Assad as the Al-Qaeda flag waving hooded figures. Plus, she is using the terrorists propaganda channels for her propaganda. An outsider must think she is an Al-Qaeda member. Just like aris.
I have the advantage of knowing the family, so there is nothing false about my view of Bashar. I have friends from Syria that keep me up to date with what is happening. I am well aware with the history of the syrian army, Bashar and his father both in Lebanon and Syria.
I doubt you have either personal knowledge or experience with the Assads, or even keep up to date with the news of events.
Have you even actually been to syria? Either before or after the civil war began? Have you even been to the middle east?
How did you become so infatuated with Bashar? Websites? How many syrians do you know? What sect are they? What do you know of his clan? Of the alwaites? Of the Baath Party?
News sites around the world are now terrorist websites? So, only syria state websites are not propaganda? You know nothing of syria or the syrians. You have proven that time and again.
I've had reservation even before Haf.Ass. took control and I've been an advocate for the syrians since the '70's.
You seem to be delusional to think stability by sledgehammer is a good thing. You can't understand how the people have suffered. You would have the world ruled by dictators that abuse their own people and force them into submission? Maybe you wish Hitler had won, or Stalin, or Pol Pot, etc.?
You would kill all those that speak out? Like the Romans, you would crucify hundreds of thousands? Perhaps put a guillotine in every town square? Impale the opposition on a forest of pikes along every road?
Have you ever even looked at what tortures were carried out at Mezze, Tadmor, Adra, Sednaya, Raqqa, etc.?
http://www.hrw.org/sites/default/files/reports/syria0712webwcover_0.pdf
http://english.alarabiya.net/en/New...uncil-Syria-torture-photos-are-credible-.html
These things have been going on for decades under the Assads. There are some 150,000 civilians that have disappeared into syria prisons. 55,000 photos of those abused or killed in syria jails presented to the UN. More than 250,000 killed in the war, 90% by the Assad forces.
How can you be blind, deft and dumb to what is happening? It is not a matter of lack of evidence, but your refusal to actually see the evidence for yourself. How can you be complicit with the abuses carried out by the Assad regime?
Torture report 10 examples of the horror in the CIA s prisons - Telegraph
While busy to falsely blame the Syrian government, you refused to list crimes of FSA and Co so far. That makes you a terrorist propagandist. An ugly minded bogus terrorroach. You call yourself an advocate of the Syrian people? Al-Nusra claims to liberate the Syrian people...
Listen, you Little Cockroach, Aris has a better handle than you have on what is going on over there. Not only does she comes from that area of the world, she is still in touch with people living there.
Turkey is turning more and more Islamist and does not like the idea of having a secular Syria.
Not only am I a real American I, unlike you, have served in the U.S. military and in combat.
Wow, Haniya, my husband is retired military and has the Silver Star. However, we do read about converts who have been in the military and have become radicalized. Next time I go shopping at the commissary, I think in the Food Court I will start a conversation with some of the guys who have come back from the Middle East and tell them about a convert who claimed she was in the U.S. military but who is anxiously awaiting for Sharia Law in this country so that she can go about life like Muslims do in Muslim countries.
Why do you build up such such extraordinary fantasies? I am a Roman Catholic, a former (male) infantry officer (had USAA when only officers could have it), I am certainly not interested in Sharia law for anyone and I don't have a particular liking for either Muslims or Jews. See if your military friends can identify my unit by the patch on my old rip stop jungle jacket.View attachment 37599
Turkey is turning more and more Islamist and does not like the idea of having a secular Syria.
Not only am I a real American I, unlike you, have served in the U.S. military and in combat.
Wow, Haniya, my husband is retired military and has the Silver Star. However, we do read about converts who have been in the military and have become radicalized. Next time I go shopping at the commissary, I think in the Food Court I will start a conversation with some of the guys who have come back from the Middle East and tell them about a convert who claimed she was in the U.S. military but who is anxiously awaiting for Sharia Law in this country so that she can go about life like Muslims do in Muslim countries.
Why do you build up such such extraordinary fantasies? I am a Roman Catholic, a former (male) infantry officer (had USAA when only officers could have it), I am certainly not interested in Sharia law for anyone and I don't have a particular liking for either Muslims or Jews. See if your military friends can identify my unit by the patch on my old rip stop jungle jacket.View attachment 37599
Big deal! Doesn't negate what you are.
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Shows how little you know. Anyone with any U.S. military experience would know what brigade it was and the particular role of the unit with that patch.
Plenty of converts to Islam enemy within fifth columners are people who served in the US military, John Mohammad, Nidal Hasan, Johnny Jihad. Look them up.
Doesn't mean jack. You can shove your "credentials" up your Mohammad.
I like how these imposter America-hating terrorist worshippers keep calling themselves "real Americans". Ha ha ha.
Turkey is turning more and more Islamist and does not like the idea of having a secular Syria.
Not only am I a real American I, unlike you, have served in the U.S. military and in combat.
Wow, Haniya, my husband is retired military and has the Silver Star. However, we do read about converts who have been in the military and have become radicalized. Next time I go shopping at the commissary, I think in the Food Court I will start a conversation with some of the guys who have come back from the Middle East and tell them about a convert who claimed she was in the U.S. military but who is anxiously awaiting for Sharia Law in this country so that she can go about life like Muslims do in Muslim countries.
Why do you build up such such extraordinary fantasies? I am a Roman Catholic, a former (male) infantry officer (had USAA when only officers could have it), I am certainly not interested in Sharia law for anyone and I don't have a particular liking for either Muslims or Jews. See if your military friends can identify my unit by the patch on my old rip stop jungle jacket.View attachment 37599
Why this must be the guy under Haniyah's screen name who jumped in and said that his wife comes from Spain. Don't forget many of us have seen Haniyah Facebook page before she quickly locked it when she realized that some of the viewers here saw it. I wonder why you keep on telling the viewers you were in the service, Haniyah's musical chair partner. There are many other men posting here who were also in the service, and some of them are even retired, spending 20 years or more in the military. Say wasn't it a Muslim who threw a hand grenade into the tent of sleeping American soldiers? Wasn't it also a Muslim who killed at the recruiters in some city here in America? I know we are all aware of Major Hasan. He was such a devout Muslim.
You are making things up you are fantasizing, there is no correlation between your friend Haniyah and I. You are becoming a stalker Sally, you need to cool it.
Over the years, U.S. troops have been killed by people of a variety of religions, Jews (USS LIBERTY) included, I don't understand your point. If you are saying that Muslims have been the primary killers of U.S. troops since the various Iraq, and Afghanistan wars? Well, what do you expect? It's no revelation, there aren't many Buddhists in Iraq or Afghanistan. In Vietnam most killers of U.S. troops were Vietnamese who were presumably Buddhists.
Wow, Haniya, my husband is retired military and has the Silver Star. However, we do read about converts who have been in the military and have become radicalized. Next time I go shopping at the commissary, I think in the Food Court I will start a conversation with some of the guys who have come back from the Middle East and tell them about a convert who claimed she was in the U.S. military but who is anxiously awaiting for Sharia Law in this country so that she can go about life like Muslims do in Muslim countries.
Why do you build up such such extraordinary fantasies? I am a Roman Catholic, a former (male) infantry officer (had USAA when only officers could have it), I am certainly not interested in Sharia law for anyone and I don't have a particular liking for either Muslims or Jews. See if your military friends can identify my unit by the patch on my old rip stop jungle jacket.View attachment 37599
Wow, Haniya, my husband is retired military and has the Silver Star. However, we do read about converts who have been in the military and have become radicalized. Next time I go shopping at the commissary, I think in the Food Court I will start a conversation with some of the guys who have come back from the Middle East and tell them about a convert who claimed she was in the U.S. military but who is anxiously awaiting for Sharia Law in this country so that she can go about life like Muslims do in Muslim countries.
Why do you build up such such extraordinary fantasies? I am a Roman Catholic, a former (male) infantry officer (had USAA when only officers could have it), I am certainly not interested in Sharia law for anyone and I don't have a particular liking for either Muslims or Jews. See if your military friends can identify my unit by the patch on my old rip stop jungle jacket.View attachment 37599
Big deal! Doesn't negate what you are.
Individual Responsible for Radiation Protection (Ohio)
IRRP Institute of Radioisotopes and Radiodiagnostic Products
IRRP Improved Rearming Rate Program
IRRP In Route Rally Point (US Army)
IRRP Iwakuni Runway Relocation Project (MCAS Iwakuni, Japan)
IRRP Inter-(domain) Routing Protocol
Copyright 1988-2014 AcronymFinder.com, All rights reserved.
Shows how little you know. Anyone with any U.S. military experience would know what brigade it was and the particular role of the unit with that patch.
Plenty of converts to Islam enemy within fifth columners are people who served in the US military, John Mohammad, Nidal Hasan, Johnny Jihad. Look them up.
Doesn't mean jack. You can shove your "credentials" up your Mohammad.
SInce you don't have any credentials at all, and are loyal to a foreign country rather than the U.S., I don't think it requires much of a stretch to see that your profile is that of a fifth columnist like your friend Jonathon Pollard, who you support so much. I am an America Firster.
Wow, Haniya, my husband is retired military and has the Silver Star. However, we do read about converts who have been in the military and have become radicalized. Next time I go shopping at the commissary, I think in the Food Court I will start a conversation with some of the guys who have come back from the Middle East and tell them about a convert who claimed she was in the U.S. military but who is anxiously awaiting for Sharia Law in this country so that she can go about life like Muslims do in Muslim countries.
Why do you build up such such extraordinary fantasies? I am a Roman Catholic, a former (male) infantry officer (had USAA when only officers could have it), I am certainly not interested in Sharia law for anyone and I don't have a particular liking for either Muslims or Jews. See if your military friends can identify my unit by the patch on my old rip stop jungle jacket.View attachment 37599
Wow, Haniya, my husband is retired military and has the Silver Star. However, we do read about converts who have been in the military and have become radicalized. Next time I go shopping at the commissary, I think in the Food Court I will start a conversation with some of the guys who have come back from the Middle East and tell them about a convert who claimed she was in the U.S. military but who is anxiously awaiting for Sharia Law in this country so that she can go about life like Muslims do in Muslim countries.
Why do you build up such such extraordinary fantasies? I am a Roman Catholic, a former (male) infantry officer (had USAA when only officers could have it), I am certainly not interested in Sharia law for anyone and I don't have a particular liking for either Muslims or Jews. See if your military friends can identify my unit by the patch on my old rip stop jungle jacket.View attachment 37599
Big deal! Doesn't negate what you are.
Individual Responsible for Radiation Protection (Ohio)
IRRP Institute of Radioisotopes and Radiodiagnostic Products
IRRP Improved Rearming Rate Program
IRRP In Route Rally Point (US Army)
IRRP Iwakuni Runway Relocation Project (MCAS Iwakuni, Japan)
IRRP Inter-(domain) Routing Protocol
Copyright 1988-2014 AcronymFinder.com, All rights reserved.
Shows how little you know. Anyone with any U.S. military experience would know what brigade it was and the particular role of the unit with that patch.
Plenty of converts to Islam enemy within fifth columners are people who served in the US military, John Mohammad, Nidal Hasan, Johnny Jihad. Look them up.
Doesn't mean jack. You can shove your "credentials" up your Mohammad.
SInce you don't have any credentials at all, and are loyal to a foreign country rather than the U.S., I don't think it requires much of a stretch to see that your profile is that of a fifth columnist like your friend Jonathon Pollard, who you support so much. I am an America Firster.
Repeating you bullshit will not make it true. Oh, yes, there are millions of refugees but this is the fault of the Islamist terrorists you worship and their puppetmaster, the West. The refugees seek refuge in government controlled areas, not in terrorist controlled areas. You know that well, why are you spreading your lies? What have the Syrians done to you that you want to impose Al-Qaeda on them, terrorroach? Am am not going to appeal to your mind cause where normal humans have it I expect just a little devil in you.You know exactly what sites I mean. Beside that is every site a terrorist propaganda site that publishes terrorist propaganda. Your torture photos are western produced propaganda, probably from one of the various US torture prisons in many countries. Today it is 40 thousand pics, tomorrow its 55.000 and then it is 35 thousand. Of course only the few example photos that have been in the media exist. And of course there is no sign from where the pics could come from. Nothing but propaganda.While crawling on terrorist propaganda websites you claim to have connections to Syria. But you have nothing but the order to spread terrorist propaganda in the name of Uncle Sam. Shame on you and Uncle Sam.I have the advantage of knowing the family, so there is nothing false about my view of Bashar. I have friends from Syria that keep me up to date with what is happening. I am well aware with the history of the syrian army, Bashar and his father both in Lebanon and Syria.
I doubt you have either personal knowledge or experience with the Assads, or even keep up to date with the news of events.
Have you even actually been to syria? Either before or after the civil war began? Have you even been to the middle east?
How did you become so infatuated with Bashar? Websites? How many syrians do you know? What sect are they? What do you know of his clan? Of the alwaites? Of the Baath Party?
News sites around the world are now terrorist websites? So, only syria state websites are not propaganda? You know nothing of syria or the syrians. You have proven that time and again.
I've had reservation even before Haf.Ass. took control and I've been an advocate for the syrians since the '70's.
You seem to be delusional to think stability by sledgehammer is a good thing. You can't understand how the people have suffered. You would have the world ruled by dictators that abuse their own people and force them into submission? Maybe you wish Hitler had won, or Stalin, or Pol Pot, etc.?
You would kill all those that speak out? Like the Romans, you would crucify hundreds of thousands? Perhaps put a guillotine in every town square? Impale the opposition on a forest of pikes along every road?
Have you ever even looked at what tortures were carried out at Mezze, Tadmor, Adra, Sednaya, Raqqa, etc.?
http://www.hrw.org/sites/default/files/reports/syria0712webwcover_0.pdf
http://english.alarabiya.net/en/New...uncil-Syria-torture-photos-are-credible-.html
These things have been going on for decades under the Assads. There are some 150,000 civilians that have disappeared into syria prisons. 55,000 photos of those abused or killed in syria jails presented to the UN. More than 250,000 killed in the war, 90% by the Assad forces.
How can you be blind, deft and dumb to what is happening? It is not a matter of lack of evidence, but your refusal to actually see the evidence for yourself. How can you be complicit with the abuses carried out by the Assad regime?
Torture report 10 examples of the horror in the CIA s prisons - Telegraph
While busy to falsely blame the Syrian government, you refused to list crimes of FSA and Co so far. That makes you a terrorist propagandist. An ugly minded bogus terrorroach. You call yourself an advocate of the Syrian people? Al-Nusra claims to liberate the Syrian people...
Listen, you Little Cockroach, Aris has a better handle than you have on what is going on over there. Not only does she comes from that area of the world, she is still in touch with people living there.
Ironcross thinks he is the only one that can be "informed" about syria. He has proved time and again how ill informed he actually is.How he can believe that Assad is so beloved with half the population is displaced and a quarter are refugees or that a civil war has been going on for almost as long as the US civil war did, is idiocy. Assad has killed more of his own people that american lives lost in WWI. This is not an exercise of free speech outside the whitehouse. These are millions that want a dictator to step down for the country to have free and fair elections, not two people hand picked by parliament to run against Assad, as tokens for the first time.
Was your husband just removing another Al-Qaeda flag while you try to insult me and claim to have the right of determination whenever someone has to sleep or not? Please, tell that your psychiatrist to have your dose increased.Is your husband not afraid that you could like the converts too much? I hope it is not that terrible that he has to remove the Al-Qaeda flags you put everywhere. Isn't he worried about your mental condition? I could never tolerate a wife that makes propaganda for Al-Qaeda on the Internet and would put her into a mental hospital over that.You're a real American??? You sound more like a Muslim from the Middle East. Perhaps you can tell us why even Muslim countries like Turkey want to see Assad go. While you are at it, why not tell us why there are even Syrians against him. Surely you must have heard about that.
I like how these imposter America-hating terrorist worshippers keep calling themselves "real Americans". Ha ha ha.
Turkey is turning more and more Islamist and does not like the idea of having a secular Syria.
Not only am I a real American I, unlike you, have served in the U.S. military and in combat.
Wow, Haniya, my husband is retired military and has the Silver Star. However, we do read about converts who have been in the military and have become radicalized. Next time I go shopping at the commissary, I think in the Food Court I will start a conversation with some of the guys who have come back from the Middle East and tell them about a convert who claimed she was in the U.S. military but who is anxiously awaiting for Sharia Law in this country so that she can go about life like Muslims do in Muslim countries.
Is that mentally ill Little Boy still up in Germany when he should be sound asleep? It could be that when you are instituitionalized with nothing to do but sit in your little cell, night becomes day and day becomes night and that is why the viewers see him posting so many times when other people in Germany are sound asleep. Go to bed, Little Boy..
You mean in touch with Al-Qaeda? Great, making her the best informed person here, great. Al-Qaeda will only tell her the truthYou know exactly what sites I mean. Beside that is every site a terrorist propaganda site that publishes terrorist propaganda. Your torture photos are western produced propaganda, probably from one of the various US torture prisons in many countries. Today it is 40 thousand pics, tomorrow its 55.000 and then it is 35 thousand. Of course only the few example photos that have been in the media exist. And of course there is no sign from where the pics could come from. Nothing but propaganda.While crawling on terrorist propaganda websites you claim to have connections to Syria. But you have nothing but the order to spread terrorist propaganda in the name of Uncle Sam. Shame on you and Uncle Sam.She is as eager to falsely blame Assad as the Al-Qaeda flag waving hooded figures. Plus, she is using the terrorists propaganda channels for her propaganda. An outsider must think she is an Al-Qaeda member. Just like aris.
I have the advantage of knowing the family, so there is nothing false about my view of Bashar. I have friends from Syria that keep me up to date with what is happening. I am well aware with the history of the syrian army, Bashar and his father both in Lebanon and Syria.
I doubt you have either personal knowledge or experience with the Assads, or even keep up to date with the news of events.
Have you even actually been to syria? Either before or after the civil war began? Have you even been to the middle east?
How did you become so infatuated with Bashar? Websites? How many syrians do you know? What sect are they? What do you know of his clan? Of the alwaites? Of the Baath Party?
News sites around the world are now terrorist websites? So, only syria state websites are not propaganda? You know nothing of syria or the syrians. You have proven that time and again.
I've had reservation even before Haf.Ass. took control and I've been an advocate for the syrians since the '70's.
You seem to be delusional to think stability by sledgehammer is a good thing. You can't understand how the people have suffered. You would have the world ruled by dictators that abuse their own people and force them into submission? Maybe you wish Hitler had won, or Stalin, or Pol Pot, etc.?
You would kill all those that speak out? Like the Romans, you would crucify hundreds of thousands? Perhaps put a guillotine in every town square? Impale the opposition on a forest of pikes along every road?
Have you ever even looked at what tortures were carried out at Mezze, Tadmor, Adra, Sednaya, Raqqa, etc.?
http://www.hrw.org/sites/default/files/reports/syria0712webwcover_0.pdf
http://english.alarabiya.net/en/New...uncil-Syria-torture-photos-are-credible-.html
These things have been going on for decades under the Assads. There are some 150,000 civilians that have disappeared into syria prisons. 55,000 photos of those abused or killed in syria jails presented to the UN. More than 250,000 killed in the war, 90% by the Assad forces.
How can you be blind, deft and dumb to what is happening? It is not a matter of lack of evidence, but your refusal to actually see the evidence for yourself. How can you be complicit with the abuses carried out by the Assad regime?
Torture report 10 examples of the horror in the CIA s prisons - Telegraph
While busy to falsely blame the Syrian government, you refused to list crimes of FSA and Co so far. That makes you a terrorist propagandist. An ugly minded bogus terrorroach. You call yourself an advocate of the Syrian people? Al-Nusra claims to liberate the Syrian people...
Listen, you Little Cockroach, Aris has a better handle than you have on what is going on over there. Not only does she comes from that area of the world, she is still in touch with people living there.
Repeating you bullshit will not make it true. Oh, yes, there are millions of refugees but this is the fault of the Islamist terrorists you worship and their puppetmaster, the West. The refugees seek refuge in government controlled areas, not in terrorist controlled areas. You know that well, why are you spreading your lies? What have the Syrians done to you that you want to impose Al-Qaeda on them, terrorroach? Am am not going to appeal to your mind cause where normal humans have it I expect just a little devil in you.You know exactly what sites I mean. Beside that is every site a terrorist propaganda site that publishes terrorist propaganda. Your torture photos are western produced propaganda, probably from one of the various US torture prisons in many countries. Today it is 40 thousand pics, tomorrow its 55.000 and then it is 35 thousand. Of course only the few example photos that have been in the media exist. And of course there is no sign from where the pics could come from. Nothing but propaganda.While crawling on terrorist propaganda websites you claim to have connections to Syria. But you have nothing but the order to spread terrorist propaganda in the name of Uncle Sam. Shame on you and Uncle Sam.
News sites around the world are now terrorist websites? So, only syria state websites are not propaganda? You know nothing of syria or the syrians. You have proven that time and again.
I've had reservation even before Haf.Ass. took control and I've been an advocate for the syrians since the '70's.
You seem to be delusional to think stability by sledgehammer is a good thing. You can't understand how the people have suffered. You would have the world ruled by dictators that abuse their own people and force them into submission? Maybe you wish Hitler had won, or Stalin, or Pol Pot, etc.?
You would kill all those that speak out? Like the Romans, you would crucify hundreds of thousands? Perhaps put a guillotine in every town square? Impale the opposition on a forest of pikes along every road?
Have you ever even looked at what tortures were carried out at Mezze, Tadmor, Adra, Sednaya, Raqqa, etc.?
http://www.hrw.org/sites/default/files/reports/syria0712webwcover_0.pdf
http://english.alarabiya.net/en/New...uncil-Syria-torture-photos-are-credible-.html
These things have been going on for decades under the Assads. There are some 150,000 civilians that have disappeared into syria prisons. 55,000 photos of those abused or killed in syria jails presented to the UN. More than 250,000 killed in the war, 90% by the Assad forces.
How can you be blind, deft and dumb to what is happening? It is not a matter of lack of evidence, but your refusal to actually see the evidence for yourself. How can you be complicit with the abuses carried out by the Assad regime?
Torture report 10 examples of the horror in the CIA s prisons - Telegraph
While busy to falsely blame the Syrian government, you refused to list crimes of FSA and Co so far. That makes you a terrorist propagandist. An ugly minded bogus terrorroach. You call yourself an advocate of the Syrian people? Al-Nusra claims to liberate the Syrian people...
Listen, you Little Cockroach, Aris has a better handle than you have on what is going on over there. Not only does she comes from that area of the world, she is still in touch with people living there.
Ironcross thinks he is the only one that can be "informed" about syria. He has proved time and again how ill informed he actually is.How he can believe that Assad is so beloved with half the population is displaced and a quarter are refugees or that a civil war has been going on for almost as long as the US civil war did, is idiocy. Assad has killed more of his own people that american lives lost in WWI. This is not an exercise of free speech outside the whitehouse. These are millions that want a dictator to step down for the country to have free and fair elections, not two people hand picked by parliament to run against Assad, as tokens for the first time.
Family of Christian Syrian soldier in the Syrian Army. What people forget is that Christians are part of the Syrian Army and the officer corps. Keep supporting Al-Qaeda you Israeli Firsters. A weaker multi-ethnic secular Syria helps Syria. But it doesn't help us real Americans.
You're a real American??? You sound more like a Muslim from the Middle East. Perhaps you can tell us why even Muslim countries like Turkey want to see Assad go. While you are at it, why not tell us why there are even Syrians against him. Surely you must have heard about that.
I like how these imposter America-hating terrorist worshippers keep calling themselves "real Americans". Ha ha ha.
Turkey is turning more and more Islamist and does not like the idea of having a secular Syria.
Not only am I a real American I, unlike you, have served in the U.S. military and in combat.
Yeah, but despite all your pretending and charade we know you're an antisemetic convert to Islam who also hates America.
Turkey has turned Islamist, but that's not why it has turned anti Assad. Turkey and the other secular Arab narions have turned anti Assad because they are seeing him slaughter up hundreds of thousands of innocent fellow Sunni Muslims, and causing a huge refugee crisis across the region.
Did we catch dufus lying again?
What secular Arab countries would that include. Seems that ISIS, Al Nousra and Al Qaeda are the ones doing most of the killing and they are Sunni.
I guess, there were far more than one million refugees before ISIS came. But tell me, what´s the difference between your Al-Qaeda and ISIS?Repeating you bullshit will not make it true. Oh, yes, there are millions of refugees but this is the fault of the Islamist terrorists you worship and their puppetmaster, the West. The refugees seek refuge in government controlled areas, not in terrorist controlled areas. You know that well, why are you spreading your lies? What have the Syrians done to you that you want to impose Al-Qaeda on them, terrorroach? Am am not going to appeal to your mind cause where normal humans have it I expect just a little devil in you.You know exactly what sites I mean. Beside that is every site a terrorist propaganda site that publishes terrorist propaganda. Your torture photos are western produced propaganda, probably from one of the various US torture prisons in many countries. Today it is 40 thousand pics, tomorrow its 55.000 and then it is 35 thousand. Of course only the few example photos that have been in the media exist. And of course there is no sign from where the pics could come from. Nothing but propaganda.News sites around the world are now terrorist websites? So, only syria state websites are not propaganda? You know nothing of syria or the syrians. You have proven that time and again.
I've had reservation even before Haf.Ass. took control and I've been an advocate for the syrians since the '70's.
You seem to be delusional to think stability by sledgehammer is a good thing. You can't understand how the people have suffered. You would have the world ruled by dictators that abuse their own people and force them into submission? Maybe you wish Hitler had won, or Stalin, or Pol Pot, etc.?
You would kill all those that speak out? Like the Romans, you would crucify hundreds of thousands? Perhaps put a guillotine in every town square? Impale the opposition on a forest of pikes along every road?
Have you ever even looked at what tortures were carried out at Mezze, Tadmor, Adra, Sednaya, Raqqa, etc.?
http://www.hrw.org/sites/default/files/reports/syria0712webwcover_0.pdf
http://english.alarabiya.net/en/New...uncil-Syria-torture-photos-are-credible-.html
These things have been going on for decades under the Assads. There are some 150,000 civilians that have disappeared into syria prisons. 55,000 photos of those abused or killed in syria jails presented to the UN. More than 250,000 killed in the war, 90% by the Assad forces.
How can you be blind, deft and dumb to what is happening? It is not a matter of lack of evidence, but your refusal to actually see the evidence for yourself. How can you be complicit with the abuses carried out by the Assad regime?
Torture report 10 examples of the horror in the CIA s prisons - Telegraph
While busy to falsely blame the Syrian government, you refused to list crimes of FSA and Co so far. That makes you a terrorist propagandist. An ugly minded bogus terrorroach. You call yourself an advocate of the Syrian people? Al-Nusra claims to liberate the Syrian people...
Listen, you Little Cockroach, Aris has a better handle than you have on what is going on over there. Not only does she comes from that area of the world, she is still in touch with people living there.
Ironcross thinks he is the only one that can be "informed" about syria. He has proved time and again how ill informed he actually is.How he can believe that Assad is so beloved with half the population is displaced and a quarter are refugees or that a civil war has been going on for almost as long as the US civil war did, is idiocy. Assad has killed more of his own people that american lives lost in WWI. This is not an exercise of free speech outside the whitehouse. These are millions that want a dictator to step down for the country to have free and fair elections, not two people hand picked by parliament to run against Assad, as tokens for the first time.
There were already more than a million refugees long before ISIS entered syria.
snap, snap
If you want to participate in a discussion, you should have some idea what you are talking about.
Go check the UNHCR figures for yourself.
I guess, there were far more than one million refugees before ISIS came. But tell me, what´s the difference between your Al-Qaeda and ISIS?Repeating you bullshit will not make it true. Oh, yes, there are millions of refugees but this is the fault of the Islamist terrorists you worship and their puppetmaster, the West. The refugees seek refuge in government controlled areas, not in terrorist controlled areas. You know that well, why are you spreading your lies? What have the Syrians done to you that you want to impose Al-Qaeda on them, terrorroach? Am am not going to appeal to your mind cause where normal humans have it I expect just a little devil in you.You know exactly what sites I mean. Beside that is every site a terrorist propaganda site that publishes terrorist propaganda. Your torture photos are western produced propaganda, probably from one of the various US torture prisons in many countries. Today it is 40 thousand pics, tomorrow its 55.000 and then it is 35 thousand. Of course only the few example photos that have been in the media exist. And of course there is no sign from where the pics could come from. Nothing but propaganda.
Torture report 10 examples of the horror in the CIA s prisons - Telegraph
While busy to falsely blame the Syrian government, you refused to list crimes of FSA and Co so far. That makes you a terrorist propagandist. An ugly minded bogus terrorroach. You call yourself an advocate of the Syrian people? Al-Nusra claims to liberate the Syrian people...
Listen, you Little Cockroach, Aris has a better handle than you have on what is going on over there. Not only does she comes from that area of the world, she is still in touch with people living there.
Ironcross thinks he is the only one that can be "informed" about syria. He has proved time and again how ill informed he actually is.How he can believe that Assad is so beloved with half the population is displaced and a quarter are refugees or that a civil war has been going on for almost as long as the US civil war did, is idiocy. Assad has killed more of his own people that american lives lost in WWI. This is not an exercise of free speech outside the whitehouse. These are millions that want a dictator to step down for the country to have free and fair elections, not two people hand picked by parliament to run against Assad, as tokens for the first time.
There were already more than a million refugees long before ISIS entered syria.
snap, snap
If you want to participate in a discussion, you should have some idea what you are talking about.
Go check the UNHCR figures for yourself.
"snap snap"
You think I don´t know that? I asked for the difference, not for their competitive behavior.I guess, there were far more than one million refugees before ISIS came. But tell me, what´s the difference between your Al-Qaeda and ISIS?Repeating you bullshit will not make it true. Oh, yes, there are millions of refugees but this is the fault of the Islamist terrorists you worship and their puppetmaster, the West. The refugees seek refuge in government controlled areas, not in terrorist controlled areas. You know that well, why are you spreading your lies? What have the Syrians done to you that you want to impose Al-Qaeda on them, terrorroach? Am am not going to appeal to your mind cause where normal humans have it I expect just a little devil in you.Listen, you Little Cockroach, Aris has a better handle than you have on what is going on over there. Not only does she comes from that area of the world, she is still in touch with people living there.
Ironcross thinks he is the only one that can be "informed" about syria. He has proved time and again how ill informed he actually is.How he can believe that Assad is so beloved with half the population is displaced and a quarter are refugees or that a civil war has been going on for almost as long as the US civil war did, is idiocy. Assad has killed more of his own people that american lives lost in WWI. This is not an exercise of free speech outside the whitehouse. These are millions that want a dictator to step down for the country to have free and fair elections, not two people hand picked by parliament to run against Assad, as tokens for the first time.
There were already more than a million refugees long before ISIS entered syria.
snap, snap
If you want to participate in a discussion, you should have some idea what you are talking about.
Go check the UNHCR figures for yourself.
"snap snap"
sunni jihadists with different end goals, financial structure and leaderships
They are both corruptions of faith and tools of hate mongers, but alqaida has distanced itself from ISIS.
Myth 1 ISIS is crazy and irrational - The 9 biggest myths about nbsp ISIS - Vox
ISIS vs. Al Qaeda The good news and the bad news Fox News
The Islamic State vs. al Qaeda Foreign Policy
ISIS vs. Al Qaeda Jihadism s global civil war Brookings Institution
Anonymous Declares War Vs Al Qaeda ISIS Brings Down A Jihadist Website
Assessing the ISIS - al-Qaeda Split Introduction
Al-Qaeda disavows any ties with radical Islamist ISIS group in Syria Iraq - The Washington Post
Al-Qaeda disowns Syria franchise ISIS
BBC News - Al-Qaeda disavows ISIS militants in Syria
There are close to a million sites on the subject you can read. Minimally a dozen books you can pick up online or from the library.
Truth hurts doesn't it?Please, spare me from your Zionist Islamterror propaganda against Syria. You have not even once shown us a crime committed by the terrorists, but only repeat their SOHR propaganda. I give a shit about you, Zionist puppet of disgusting contempt for mankind.They fled the terrorists.In sharp contrast to the anti-Syrian agenda driven terrorist supporters I do. Here, listen:Lead-head will never understand till he takes that helmet off and actually listen to the syria people.
"The data, relayed to NATO over the last month, asserted that 70 percent
of Syrians support the Assad regime. Another 20 percent were deemed neutral and the remaining 10 percent expressed support for the rebels."
NATO data Assad winning the war for Syrians hearts and minds - World Tribune World Tribune
So you mean the hundreds of thousands of Syrian refugees who were fleeing Assad's goons, crossing the border into Turkey and Jordan creating a humanitarian crisis, were just TOURISTS? Ha ha ha. OMG how ignorant can one get?
If by terrorist you mean Assad and his goons, then yes. Stop lying and making up shit.
Syrian refugee families flee Assad s war on children - Telegraph
Syrian refugee families flee Assad's war on children
It wasn’t the first time Assad’s tanks had roared into the dusty country town of Al-Laja, a backwater 20 miles north of the Syrian city of Deraa. Families cowering inside their homes thought they knew what to expect: one or two arrests, maybe, and militiamen shooting at villagers’ homes to scare them.
But what happened 10 days ago was different. The Shabiha militia who followed the tanks tied a suspected army deserter to his motorbike and burnt him alive with paraffin; young men and teenagers old enough to fight for the rebels were dragged into the streets and shot; and two children, a boy aged 12 and his 10-year old sister, were murdered in their home.
“They stormed the house looking for their father, an officer with the rebel Omari Brigade, but he wasn’t there,” said Abu Shweti, 29. “So they killed his wife and children in revenge. I will never forget the sight. Something inside you dies when you see innocents who have been killed so brutally.”
It was the danger to his own children from Assad’s killers that persuaded Mr Shweti, and dozens of his neighbours, to flee Syria to safety in Jordan. Ordinary Syrians like them have become accustomed to horror in their bitter civil war. But with the violence suddenly worsening, and taking such a brutal twist — an estimated 1,000 people a week are now being killed, mostly civilians - thousands of families are pouring across Syria’s borders with their families.
Mr Shweti, a tough Bedouin goat herder, had arrived with his wife and five children, aged between 11 and three, in the Jordanian refugee camp of Zataari a day earlier after spending days on back roads dodging army patrols to reach safety.
“I brought my children here to protect them from the Shabiha,” he said. “Everyone in this camp has done the same. Here my family is safe. At home they could be killed. When I can I will go back to Syria to fight.”
The camp is a bleak tent city on a hot, barren plain in the desert a few miles south of the Syrian border, built in August for 100 families. Now 36,000 refugees are crammed behind its barbed wire fence, and the United Nations expects the population to increase to 80,000 by the end of the year. By then the total number of Syrian refugees in Jordan is expected to more than double to 250,000, putting great strain on the nation of 6.5 million which is already home to huge populations of Iraqis and Palestinians who fled from earlier wars.
Some 500 more Syrians turn up every day at Zaatari, exhausted, hungry, penniless, and with tales of bombings, shellings and atrocities. Aid workers and Jordanian officials fear that far more will arrive as the exodus from Syria swells, especially since Turkey restricted Syrians trying to escape across its border.
Many of the families who spoke to The Sunday Telegraph said they it was the increasingly grave danger to their children that had finally led them to leave, often after enduring months of brutal repression.
Refugees told of children being used as human shields, children being murdered by Shia militia with swords, and boys being massacred by security forces frustrated because they couldn’t find their fathers. Teenage boys are at particular risk from regime killers who suspect they may soon join rebels.
“They kill our children to break our hearts,” said one grandmotherly woman in the tent next to Mr Shweti. Her husband, a farmer with a bristly grey moustache, his head covered with a red-checkered headscarf, nodded grimly in agreement. “It is like Bosnia now, with terrible slaughter,” he added.
Mr Shweti admitted that, even after months of violence, he had been shaken by what he had seen in his own village.
“The name of the boy who was killed was Ramadan. I remember him playing with my own sons. It was revenge by them because they couldn’t find his father, and an attempt to terrorise us all.”
Children in the camp are nearly all traumatised. One of Mr Shweti’s sons, a lively boy called Abdullah, 10, wakes up every night after screaming in his sleep. “Last night he was shouting ‘Get them away from me’,” Mr Shweti said.
Boys at or near military conscription age are a particular worry for their families. Before, they would hide at home instead of answering the summons to report to army barracks.
“Everybody is getting their boys out if they are near the age for conscription,” said Abu Mohammed, 39 a carpenter. He didn’t want his two teenage sons to be forced to kill fellow Syrians. “Before, they were safe when we hid them at home. Not any more. Now the security forces search more thoroughly for them.”
He pulled up his shirt to show two bullet holes, from when he was used as a human shield by militia, he said.
Other refugees claimed the violence has got much worse in recent weeks as foreign mercenaries have appeared on the streets of their home towns and villages.
“I saw Iranians with the army in Damascus a month ago,” said Ahmad, 18. “They were devils. They killed a family by cutting their throats — a mother and father and three children, because they supported the rebels. I saw them dead in their house after the Iranians had been inside.”
He said they looked different to Syrians, with long beards, spoke Arabic with a strong accent, and had ‘Ya Ali’ tattooed on their wrists, in tribute to Ali, the son-in-law of the Prophet Mohammed who is revered by Shias. Other refugees insisted they had seen Hezbollah fighters, from Lebanon, and Iraqi Shia militia.
Like almost every inhabitant of the refugee camp, Ahmad — who did not want to give his full name for fear of spies — is a Sunni, the majority community in Syria which has led the uprising against the rule of President Assad.
“When they go to houses the foreign mercenaries don’t talk to anybody. They burn buildings and steal,” he said. “For sure the killing is getting worse, especially since they arrived. It is 100 per cent a religious war now — the Shias have most of the weapons, and they are killing Sunnis and trying to force us out.”
The conditions in the camp where they flee are grim, the midday heat unbearable in flimsy tents. Sandstorms howl across the barren plain. Aid workers are becoming deeply concerned that the refugees are unprepared for the imminent winter. Soon night time temperatures will be well below freezing, and most of the refugees arrived with just the clothes they fled in — usually just a T-shirt and jeans, or a summer dress.
Jordanian police had to fire tear gas into the camp last week when furious refugees started a riot because of their living conditions, setting fire to tents and vehicles. Once they are in, Syrians are not allowed to leave. So harsh are conditions in the camp that every night about 100 break out through the barbed wire fence, many returning to take their chances in Syria.
Refugees have adequate food, with handouts of groceries and communal kitchens now set up, and some cook for themselves. Latrines and showers are crowded and basic, and refugees complain the camp is full of regime informers. Jordanian police keep a rough and ready order, although their main job seems to be to stop refugees getting out.
Aid workers from the United Nations and other agencies privately admit that the scramble to prepare a camp as refugees flooded in has been difficult, and they fear that there is not enough funding yet to prepare for winter. Foreign donors have not been generous so far, although Morocco has set up medical facilities and Britain has been praised for providing crucial funding for the camp out of £18 million for Syrian refugees.
“When it becomes cold and starts to snow and rain it is going to be horrible in there,” said one aid worker. “It’s not the worst refugee camp I’ve ever seen but it is going to be a miserable winter for people who have lost everything.”
Many of the refugees are tough Bedouin who can cope with adversity, but there are also city people who will find the conditions a terrible shock: one woman in a tent was wearing expensive sunglasses and had a fashionable handbag, all that is left of the comfortable life she lived until a few weeks ago.
At least communal kitchens are being set up where the women can cook rice, beans, and a bit of meat; there were complaints that emergency ration packs of chicken and rice were inedible.
A million litres of water are being brought in by a fleet of lorries daily, but the operation is expensive and 400 metre deep wells are now being dug - an indication that the authorities believe the camp may become semi-permanent.
One refugee complained that Lakhdar Brahimi, the UN envoy for Syria, visited Zaatari by helicopter but spent little time with its inmates - some of whom held a demonstration complaining that his attempt to broker a peace deal made him a stooge of the regime. “He went straight to the United Nations people. He didn’t come to speak to us or hear our complaints,” the man said.
Last month bedraggled refugees crossing the border from war-torn Syria at night were greeted by the startling and far more glamorous sight of Angelina Jolie, the actress, who was on a tour of the Middle East to bring attention to the plight of refugees from Assad’s regime. At least she was trying.
“Nobody cares about us,” said Abu Iyad, an unshaven man in his thirties wearing a tattered T-shirt. One of his sons was killed last week. “Until the world helps us our suffering will go on.”
Truth hurts doesn't it?Please, spare me from your Zionist Islamterror propaganda against Syria. You have not even once shown us a crime committed by the terrorists, but only repeat their SOHR propaganda. I give a shit about you, Zionist puppet of disgusting contempt for mankind.They fled the terrorists.In sharp contrast to the anti-Syrian agenda driven terrorist supporters I do. Here, listen:
"The data, relayed to NATO over the last month, asserted that 70 percent
of Syrians support the Assad regime. Another 20 percent were deemed neutral and the remaining 10 percent expressed support for the rebels."
NATO data Assad winning the war for Syrians hearts and minds - World Tribune World Tribune
So you mean the hundreds of thousands of Syrian refugees who were fleeing Assad's goons, crossing the border into Turkey and Jordan creating a humanitarian crisis, were just TOURISTS? Ha ha ha. OMG how ignorant can one get?
If by terrorist you mean Assad and his goons, then yes. Stop lying and making up shit.
Syrian refugee families flee Assad s war on children - Telegraph
Syrian refugee families flee Assad's war on children
It wasn’t the first time Assad’s tanks had roared into the dusty country town of Al-Laja, a backwater 20 miles north of the Syrian city of Deraa. Families cowering inside their homes thought they knew what to expect: one or two arrests, maybe, and militiamen shooting at villagers’ homes to scare them.
But what happened 10 days ago was different. The Shabiha militia who followed the tanks tied a suspected army deserter to his motorbike and burnt him alive with paraffin; young men and teenagers old enough to fight for the rebels were dragged into the streets and shot; and two children, a boy aged 12 and his 10-year old sister, were murdered in their home.
“They stormed the house looking for their father, an officer with the rebel Omari Brigade, but he wasn’t there,” said Abu Shweti, 29. “So they killed his wife and children in revenge. I will never forget the sight. Something inside you dies when you see innocents who have been killed so brutally.”
It was the danger to his own children from Assad’s killers that persuaded Mr Shweti, and dozens of his neighbours, to flee Syria to safety in Jordan. Ordinary Syrians like them have become accustomed to horror in their bitter civil war. But with the violence suddenly worsening, and taking such a brutal twist — an estimated 1,000 people a week are now being killed, mostly civilians - thousands of families are pouring across Syria’s borders with their families.
Mr Shweti, a tough Bedouin goat herder, had arrived with his wife and five children, aged between 11 and three, in the Jordanian refugee camp of Zataari a day earlier after spending days on back roads dodging army patrols to reach safety.
“I brought my children here to protect them from the Shabiha,” he said. “Everyone in this camp has done the same. Here my family is safe. At home they could be killed. When I can I will go back to Syria to fight.”
The camp is a bleak tent city on a hot, barren plain in the desert a few miles south of the Syrian border, built in August for 100 families. Now 36,000 refugees are crammed behind its barbed wire fence, and the United Nations expects the population to increase to 80,000 by the end of the year. By then the total number of Syrian refugees in Jordan is expected to more than double to 250,000, putting great strain on the nation of 6.5 million which is already home to huge populations of Iraqis and Palestinians who fled from earlier wars.
Some 500 more Syrians turn up every day at Zaatari, exhausted, hungry, penniless, and with tales of bombings, shellings and atrocities. Aid workers and Jordanian officials fear that far more will arrive as the exodus from Syria swells, especially since Turkey restricted Syrians trying to escape across its border.
Many of the families who spoke to The Sunday Telegraph said they it was the increasingly grave danger to their children that had finally led them to leave, often after enduring months of brutal repression.
Refugees told of children being used as human shields, children being murdered by Shia militia with swords, and boys being massacred by security forces frustrated because they couldn’t find their fathers. Teenage boys are at particular risk from regime killers who suspect they may soon join rebels.
“They kill our children to break our hearts,” said one grandmotherly woman in the tent next to Mr Shweti. Her husband, a farmer with a bristly grey moustache, his head covered with a red-checkered headscarf, nodded grimly in agreement. “It is like Bosnia now, with terrible slaughter,” he added.
Mr Shweti admitted that, even after months of violence, he had been shaken by what he had seen in his own village.
“The name of the boy who was killed was Ramadan. I remember him playing with my own sons. It was revenge by them because they couldn’t find his father, and an attempt to terrorise us all.”
Children in the camp are nearly all traumatised. One of Mr Shweti’s sons, a lively boy called Abdullah, 10, wakes up every night after screaming in his sleep. “Last night he was shouting ‘Get them away from me’,” Mr Shweti said.
Boys at or near military conscription age are a particular worry for their families. Before, they would hide at home instead of answering the summons to report to army barracks.
“Everybody is getting their boys out if they are near the age for conscription,” said Abu Mohammed, 39 a carpenter. He didn’t want his two teenage sons to be forced to kill fellow Syrians. “Before, they were safe when we hid them at home. Not any more. Now the security forces search more thoroughly for them.”
He pulled up his shirt to show two bullet holes, from when he was used as a human shield by militia, he said.
Other refugees claimed the violence has got much worse in recent weeks as foreign mercenaries have appeared on the streets of their home towns and villages.
“I saw Iranians with the army in Damascus a month ago,” said Ahmad, 18. “They were devils. They killed a family by cutting their throats — a mother and father and three children, because they supported the rebels. I saw them dead in their house after the Iranians had been inside.”
He said they looked different to Syrians, with long beards, spoke Arabic with a strong accent, and had ‘Ya Ali’ tattooed on their wrists, in tribute to Ali, the son-in-law of the Prophet Mohammed who is revered by Shias. Other refugees insisted they had seen Hezbollah fighters, from Lebanon, and Iraqi Shia militia.
Like almost every inhabitant of the refugee camp, Ahmad — who did not want to give his full name for fear of spies — is a Sunni, the majority community in Syria which has led the uprising against the rule of President Assad.
“When they go to houses the foreign mercenaries don’t talk to anybody. They burn buildings and steal,” he said. “For sure the killing is getting worse, especially since they arrived. It is 100 per cent a religious war now — the Shias have most of the weapons, and they are killing Sunnis and trying to force us out.”
The conditions in the camp where they flee are grim, the midday heat unbearable in flimsy tents. Sandstorms howl across the barren plain. Aid workers are becoming deeply concerned that the refugees are unprepared for the imminent winter. Soon night time temperatures will be well below freezing, and most of the refugees arrived with just the clothes they fled in — usually just a T-shirt and jeans, or a summer dress.
Jordanian police had to fire tear gas into the camp last week when furious refugees started a riot because of their living conditions, setting fire to tents and vehicles. Once they are in, Syrians are not allowed to leave. So harsh are conditions in the camp that every night about 100 break out through the barbed wire fence, many returning to take their chances in Syria.
Refugees have adequate food, with handouts of groceries and communal kitchens now set up, and some cook for themselves. Latrines and showers are crowded and basic, and refugees complain the camp is full of regime informers. Jordanian police keep a rough and ready order, although their main job seems to be to stop refugees getting out.
Aid workers from the United Nations and other agencies privately admit that the scramble to prepare a camp as refugees flooded in has been difficult, and they fear that there is not enough funding yet to prepare for winter. Foreign donors have not been generous so far, although Morocco has set up medical facilities and Britain has been praised for providing crucial funding for the camp out of £18 million for Syrian refugees.
“When it becomes cold and starts to snow and rain it is going to be horrible in there,” said one aid worker. “It’s not the worst refugee camp I’ve ever seen but it is going to be a miserable winter for people who have lost everything.”
Many of the refugees are tough Bedouin who can cope with adversity, but there are also city people who will find the conditions a terrible shock: one woman in a tent was wearing expensive sunglasses and had a fashionable handbag, all that is left of the comfortable life she lived until a few weeks ago.
At least communal kitchens are being set up where the women can cook rice, beans, and a bit of meat; there were complaints that emergency ration packs of chicken and rice were inedible.
A million litres of water are being brought in by a fleet of lorries daily, but the operation is expensive and 400 metre deep wells are now being dug - an indication that the authorities believe the camp may become semi-permanent.
One refugee complained that Lakhdar Brahimi, the UN envoy for Syria, visited Zaatari by helicopter but spent little time with its inmates - some of whom held a demonstration complaining that his attempt to broker a peace deal made him a stooge of the regime. “He went straight to the United Nations people. He didn’t come to speak to us or hear our complaints,” the man said.
Last month bedraggled refugees crossing the border from war-torn Syria at night were greeted by the startling and far more glamorous sight of Angelina Jolie, the actress, who was on a tour of the Middle East to bring attention to the plight of refugees from Assad’s regime. At least she was trying.
“Nobody cares about us,” said Abu Iyad, an unshaven man in his thirties wearing a tattered T-shirt. One of his sons was killed last week. “Until the world helps us our suffering will go on.”
I live it when someone brings up Muslim atrocities, morons like you call it Islamiphobia.
Assad is an evil terrorist scumbag, whether you can deal with it or not..
Why do I call it Islamophobia? And why is the major fighter against terrorism an evil terrorist scumbag?Truth hurts doesn't it?Please, spare me from your Zionist Islamterror propaganda against Syria. You have not even once shown us a crime committed by the terrorists, but only repeat their SOHR propaganda. I give a shit about you, Zionist puppet of disgusting contempt for mankind.They fled the terrorists.In sharp contrast to the anti-Syrian agenda driven terrorist supporters I do. Here, listen:
"The data, relayed to NATO over the last month, asserted that 70 percent
of Syrians support the Assad regime. Another 20 percent were deemed neutral and the remaining 10 percent expressed support for the rebels."
NATO data Assad winning the war for Syrians hearts and minds - World Tribune World Tribune
So you mean the hundreds of thousands of Syrian refugees who were fleeing Assad's goons, crossing the border into Turkey and Jordan creating a humanitarian crisis, were just TOURISTS? Ha ha ha. OMG how ignorant can one get?
If by terrorist you mean Assad and his goons, then yes. Stop lying and making up shit.
Syrian refugee families flee Assad s war on children - Telegraph
Syrian refugee families flee Assad's war on children
It wasn’t the first time Assad’s tanks had roared into the dusty country town of Al-Laja, a backwater 20 miles north of the Syrian city of Deraa. Families cowering inside their homes thought they knew what to expect: one or two arrests, maybe, and militiamen shooting at villagers’ homes to scare them.
But what happened 10 days ago was different. The Shabiha militia who followed the tanks tied a suspected army deserter to his motorbike and burnt him alive with paraffin; young men and teenagers old enough to fight for the rebels were dragged into the streets and shot; and two children, a boy aged 12 and his 10-year old sister, were murdered in their home.
“They stormed the house looking for their father, an officer with the rebel Omari Brigade, but he wasn’t there,” said Abu Shweti, 29. “So they killed his wife and children in revenge. I will never forget the sight. Something inside you dies when you see innocents who have been killed so brutally.”
It was the danger to his own children from Assad’s killers that persuaded Mr Shweti, and dozens of his neighbours, to flee Syria to safety in Jordan. Ordinary Syrians like them have become accustomed to horror in their bitter civil war. But with the violence suddenly worsening, and taking such a brutal twist — an estimated 1,000 people a week are now being killed, mostly civilians - thousands of families are pouring across Syria’s borders with their families.
Mr Shweti, a tough Bedouin goat herder, had arrived with his wife and five children, aged between 11 and three, in the Jordanian refugee camp of Zataari a day earlier after spending days on back roads dodging army patrols to reach safety.
“I brought my children here to protect them from the Shabiha,” he said. “Everyone in this camp has done the same. Here my family is safe. At home they could be killed. When I can I will go back to Syria to fight.”
The camp is a bleak tent city on a hot, barren plain in the desert a few miles south of the Syrian border, built in August for 100 families. Now 36,000 refugees are crammed behind its barbed wire fence, and the United Nations expects the population to increase to 80,000 by the end of the year. By then the total number of Syrian refugees in Jordan is expected to more than double to 250,000, putting great strain on the nation of 6.5 million which is already home to huge populations of Iraqis and Palestinians who fled from earlier wars.
Some 500 more Syrians turn up every day at Zaatari, exhausted, hungry, penniless, and with tales of bombings, shellings and atrocities. Aid workers and Jordanian officials fear that far more will arrive as the exodus from Syria swells, especially since Turkey restricted Syrians trying to escape across its border.
Many of the families who spoke to The Sunday Telegraph said they it was the increasingly grave danger to their children that had finally led them to leave, often after enduring months of brutal repression.
Refugees told of children being used as human shields, children being murdered by Shia militia with swords, and boys being massacred by security forces frustrated because they couldn’t find their fathers. Teenage boys are at particular risk from regime killers who suspect they may soon join rebels.
“They kill our children to break our hearts,” said one grandmotherly woman in the tent next to Mr Shweti. Her husband, a farmer with a bristly grey moustache, his head covered with a red-checkered headscarf, nodded grimly in agreement. “It is like Bosnia now, with terrible slaughter,” he added.
Mr Shweti admitted that, even after months of violence, he had been shaken by what he had seen in his own village.
“The name of the boy who was killed was Ramadan. I remember him playing with my own sons. It was revenge by them because they couldn’t find his father, and an attempt to terrorise us all.”
Children in the camp are nearly all traumatised. One of Mr Shweti’s sons, a lively boy called Abdullah, 10, wakes up every night after screaming in his sleep. “Last night he was shouting ‘Get them away from me’,” Mr Shweti said.
Boys at or near military conscription age are a particular worry for their families. Before, they would hide at home instead of answering the summons to report to army barracks.
“Everybody is getting their boys out if they are near the age for conscription,” said Abu Mohammed, 39 a carpenter. He didn’t want his two teenage sons to be forced to kill fellow Syrians. “Before, they were safe when we hid them at home. Not any more. Now the security forces search more thoroughly for them.”
He pulled up his shirt to show two bullet holes, from when he was used as a human shield by militia, he said.
Other refugees claimed the violence has got much worse in recent weeks as foreign mercenaries have appeared on the streets of their home towns and villages.
“I saw Iranians with the army in Damascus a month ago,” said Ahmad, 18. “They were devils. They killed a family by cutting their throats — a mother and father and three children, because they supported the rebels. I saw them dead in their house after the Iranians had been inside.”
He said they looked different to Syrians, with long beards, spoke Arabic with a strong accent, and had ‘Ya Ali’ tattooed on their wrists, in tribute to Ali, the son-in-law of the Prophet Mohammed who is revered by Shias. Other refugees insisted they had seen Hezbollah fighters, from Lebanon, and Iraqi Shia militia.
Like almost every inhabitant of the refugee camp, Ahmad — who did not want to give his full name for fear of spies — is a Sunni, the majority community in Syria which has led the uprising against the rule of President Assad.
“When they go to houses the foreign mercenaries don’t talk to anybody. They burn buildings and steal,” he said. “For sure the killing is getting worse, especially since they arrived. It is 100 per cent a religious war now — the Shias have most of the weapons, and they are killing Sunnis and trying to force us out.”
The conditions in the camp where they flee are grim, the midday heat unbearable in flimsy tents. Sandstorms howl across the barren plain. Aid workers are becoming deeply concerned that the refugees are unprepared for the imminent winter. Soon night time temperatures will be well below freezing, and most of the refugees arrived with just the clothes they fled in — usually just a T-shirt and jeans, or a summer dress.
Jordanian police had to fire tear gas into the camp last week when furious refugees started a riot because of their living conditions, setting fire to tents and vehicles. Once they are in, Syrians are not allowed to leave. So harsh are conditions in the camp that every night about 100 break out through the barbed wire fence, many returning to take their chances in Syria.
Refugees have adequate food, with handouts of groceries and communal kitchens now set up, and some cook for themselves. Latrines and showers are crowded and basic, and refugees complain the camp is full of regime informers. Jordanian police keep a rough and ready order, although their main job seems to be to stop refugees getting out.
Aid workers from the United Nations and other agencies privately admit that the scramble to prepare a camp as refugees flooded in has been difficult, and they fear that there is not enough funding yet to prepare for winter. Foreign donors have not been generous so far, although Morocco has set up medical facilities and Britain has been praised for providing crucial funding for the camp out of £18 million for Syrian refugees.
“When it becomes cold and starts to snow and rain it is going to be horrible in there,” said one aid worker. “It’s not the worst refugee camp I’ve ever seen but it is going to be a miserable winter for people who have lost everything.”
Many of the refugees are tough Bedouin who can cope with adversity, but there are also city people who will find the conditions a terrible shock: one woman in a tent was wearing expensive sunglasses and had a fashionable handbag, all that is left of the comfortable life she lived until a few weeks ago.
At least communal kitchens are being set up where the women can cook rice, beans, and a bit of meat; there were complaints that emergency ration packs of chicken and rice were inedible.
A million litres of water are being brought in by a fleet of lorries daily, but the operation is expensive and 400 metre deep wells are now being dug - an indication that the authorities believe the camp may become semi-permanent.
One refugee complained that Lakhdar Brahimi, the UN envoy for Syria, visited Zaatari by helicopter but spent little time with its inmates - some of whom held a demonstration complaining that his attempt to broker a peace deal made him a stooge of the regime. “He went straight to the United Nations people. He didn’t come to speak to us or hear our complaints,” the man said.
Last month bedraggled refugees crossing the border from war-torn Syria at night were greeted by the startling and far more glamorous sight of Angelina Jolie, the actress, who was on a tour of the Middle East to bring attention to the plight of refugees from Assad’s regime. At least she was trying.
“Nobody cares about us,” said Abu Iyad, an unshaven man in his thirties wearing a tattered T-shirt. One of his sons was killed last week. “Until the world helps us our suffering will go on.”
I live it when someone brings up Muslim atrocities, morons like you call it Islamiphobia.
Assad is an evil terrorist scumbag, whether you can deal with it or not..
Truth hurts doesn't it?Please, spare me from your Zionist Islamterror propaganda against Syria. You have not even once shown us a crime committed by the terrorists, but only repeat their SOHR propaganda. I give a shit about you, Zionist puppet of disgusting contempt for mankind.They fled the terrorists.So you mean the hundreds of thousands of Syrian refugees who were fleeing Assad's goons, crossing the border into Turkey and Jordan creating a humanitarian crisis, were just TOURISTS? Ha ha ha. OMG how ignorant can one get?
If by terrorist you mean Assad and his goons, then yes. Stop lying and making up shit.
Syrian refugee families flee Assad s war on children - Telegraph
Syrian refugee families flee Assad's war on children
It wasn’t the first time Assad’s tanks had roared into the dusty country town of Al-Laja, a backwater 20 miles north of the Syrian city of Deraa. Families cowering inside their homes thought they knew what to expect: one or two arrests, maybe, and militiamen shooting at villagers’ homes to scare them.
But what happened 10 days ago was different. The Shabiha militia who followed the tanks tied a suspected army deserter to his motorbike and burnt him alive with paraffin; young men and teenagers old enough to fight for the rebels were dragged into the streets and shot; and two children, a boy aged 12 and his 10-year old sister, were murdered in their home.
“They stormed the house looking for their father, an officer with the rebel Omari Brigade, but he wasn’t there,” said Abu Shweti, 29. “So they killed his wife and children in revenge. I will never forget the sight. Something inside you dies when you see innocents who have been killed so brutally.”
It was the danger to his own children from Assad’s killers that persuaded Mr Shweti, and dozens of his neighbours, to flee Syria to safety in Jordan. Ordinary Syrians like them have become accustomed to horror in their bitter civil war. But with the violence suddenly worsening, and taking such a brutal twist — an estimated 1,000 people a week are now being killed, mostly civilians - thousands of families are pouring across Syria’s borders with their families.
Mr Shweti, a tough Bedouin goat herder, had arrived with his wife and five children, aged between 11 and three, in the Jordanian refugee camp of Zataari a day earlier after spending days on back roads dodging army patrols to reach safety.
“I brought my children here to protect them from the Shabiha,” he said. “Everyone in this camp has done the same. Here my family is safe. At home they could be killed. When I can I will go back to Syria to fight.”
The camp is a bleak tent city on a hot, barren plain in the desert a few miles south of the Syrian border, built in August for 100 families. Now 36,000 refugees are crammed behind its barbed wire fence, and the United Nations expects the population to increase to 80,000 by the end of the year. By then the total number of Syrian refugees in Jordan is expected to more than double to 250,000, putting great strain on the nation of 6.5 million which is already home to huge populations of Iraqis and Palestinians who fled from earlier wars.
Some 500 more Syrians turn up every day at Zaatari, exhausted, hungry, penniless, and with tales of bombings, shellings and atrocities. Aid workers and Jordanian officials fear that far more will arrive as the exodus from Syria swells, especially since Turkey restricted Syrians trying to escape across its border.
Many of the families who spoke to The Sunday Telegraph said they it was the increasingly grave danger to their children that had finally led them to leave, often after enduring months of brutal repression.
Refugees told of children being used as human shields, children being murdered by Shia militia with swords, and boys being massacred by security forces frustrated because they couldn’t find their fathers. Teenage boys are at particular risk from regime killers who suspect they may soon join rebels.
“They kill our children to break our hearts,” said one grandmotherly woman in the tent next to Mr Shweti. Her husband, a farmer with a bristly grey moustache, his head covered with a red-checkered headscarf, nodded grimly in agreement. “It is like Bosnia now, with terrible slaughter,” he added.
Mr Shweti admitted that, even after months of violence, he had been shaken by what he had seen in his own village.
“The name of the boy who was killed was Ramadan. I remember him playing with my own sons. It was revenge by them because they couldn’t find his father, and an attempt to terrorise us all.”
Children in the camp are nearly all traumatised. One of Mr Shweti’s sons, a lively boy called Abdullah, 10, wakes up every night after screaming in his sleep. “Last night he was shouting ‘Get them away from me’,” Mr Shweti said.
Boys at or near military conscription age are a particular worry for their families. Before, they would hide at home instead of answering the summons to report to army barracks.
“Everybody is getting their boys out if they are near the age for conscription,” said Abu Mohammed, 39 a carpenter. He didn’t want his two teenage sons to be forced to kill fellow Syrians. “Before, they were safe when we hid them at home. Not any more. Now the security forces search more thoroughly for them.”
He pulled up his shirt to show two bullet holes, from when he was used as a human shield by militia, he said.
Other refugees claimed the violence has got much worse in recent weeks as foreign mercenaries have appeared on the streets of their home towns and villages.
“I saw Iranians with the army in Damascus a month ago,” said Ahmad, 18. “They were devils. They killed a family by cutting their throats — a mother and father and three children, because they supported the rebels. I saw them dead in their house after the Iranians had been inside.”
He said they looked different to Syrians, with long beards, spoke Arabic with a strong accent, and had ‘Ya Ali’ tattooed on their wrists, in tribute to Ali, the son-in-law of the Prophet Mohammed who is revered by Shias. Other refugees insisted they had seen Hezbollah fighters, from Lebanon, and Iraqi Shia militia.
Like almost every inhabitant of the refugee camp, Ahmad — who did not want to give his full name for fear of spies — is a Sunni, the majority community in Syria which has led the uprising against the rule of President Assad.
“When they go to houses the foreign mercenaries don’t talk to anybody. They burn buildings and steal,” he said. “For sure the killing is getting worse, especially since they arrived. It is 100 per cent a religious war now — the Shias have most of the weapons, and they are killing Sunnis and trying to force us out.”
The conditions in the camp where they flee are grim, the midday heat unbearable in flimsy tents. Sandstorms howl across the barren plain. Aid workers are becoming deeply concerned that the refugees are unprepared for the imminent winter. Soon night time temperatures will be well below freezing, and most of the refugees arrived with just the clothes they fled in — usually just a T-shirt and jeans, or a summer dress.
Jordanian police had to fire tear gas into the camp last week when furious refugees started a riot because of their living conditions, setting fire to tents and vehicles. Once they are in, Syrians are not allowed to leave. So harsh are conditions in the camp that every night about 100 break out through the barbed wire fence, many returning to take their chances in Syria.
Refugees have adequate food, with handouts of groceries and communal kitchens now set up, and some cook for themselves. Latrines and showers are crowded and basic, and refugees complain the camp is full of regime informers. Jordanian police keep a rough and ready order, although their main job seems to be to stop refugees getting out.
Aid workers from the United Nations and other agencies privately admit that the scramble to prepare a camp as refugees flooded in has been difficult, and they fear that there is not enough funding yet to prepare for winter. Foreign donors have not been generous so far, although Morocco has set up medical facilities and Britain has been praised for providing crucial funding for the camp out of £18 million for Syrian refugees.
“When it becomes cold and starts to snow and rain it is going to be horrible in there,” said one aid worker. “It’s not the worst refugee camp I’ve ever seen but it is going to be a miserable winter for people who have lost everything.”
Many of the refugees are tough Bedouin who can cope with adversity, but there are also city people who will find the conditions a terrible shock: one woman in a tent was wearing expensive sunglasses and had a fashionable handbag, all that is left of the comfortable life she lived until a few weeks ago.
At least communal kitchens are being set up where the women can cook rice, beans, and a bit of meat; there were complaints that emergency ration packs of chicken and rice were inedible.
A million litres of water are being brought in by a fleet of lorries daily, but the operation is expensive and 400 metre deep wells are now being dug - an indication that the authorities believe the camp may become semi-permanent.
One refugee complained that Lakhdar Brahimi, the UN envoy for Syria, visited Zaatari by helicopter but spent little time with its inmates - some of whom held a demonstration complaining that his attempt to broker a peace deal made him a stooge of the regime. “He went straight to the United Nations people. He didn’t come to speak to us or hear our complaints,” the man said.
Last month bedraggled refugees crossing the border from war-torn Syria at night were greeted by the startling and far more glamorous sight of Angelina Jolie, the actress, who was on a tour of the Middle East to bring attention to the plight of refugees from Assad’s regime. At least she was trying.
“Nobody cares about us,” said Abu Iyad, an unshaven man in his thirties wearing a tattered T-shirt. One of his sons was killed last week. “Until the world helps us our suffering will go on.”
I live it when someone brings up Muslim atrocities, morons like you call it Islamiphobia.
Assad is an evil terrorist scumbag, whether you can deal with it or not..
Genocide Watch
http://www.genocidewatch.org/images/Syria_2013_08_04_Nash_rizgar_letter_to_GWatch.pdf
To the attention of international community
despite the periodical descents and ascents, the civil war in Syria continues for more than 2 years. The
process, which began with peaceful demonstrations, turned into an armed conflict because of the brutal
attempts by the regime to suppress the protests. Presumably, the casualties have gone beyond 100
thousand. Now, there are uncontrolled armed groups and the military powers of the regime on the streets
instead of people marching for their freedom demands. In the country where the destruction has reached
an unprecedented level.
The Kurds - who are the largest ethnic group after the Arabs in Syria and are the potential catalyst for a
possible pluralistic and democratic process in Syria-, have indicated at the beginning of the conflict that
they are interested in peaceful transition from dictatorial regime to a democratic and pluralistic system.
They avoid being a part the conflict that causes thousands of deaths, destruction of infrastructures in the
country with any visible result.
At the beginning to the present time, Kurds have tried to protect Kurdistan region in Syria (in Kurdish:
Rojava - Western Kurdistan) from the conflict and provide humanitarian aid to those who escape from the
conflict including Arabs, Assyrians, Armenians and Kurds. In Kurdistan region in Syria, limited resources
were mobilized for the needs of all people including education and health services. In recent days, the
stability of Kurdistan region under threat of Turkey supported Al-Qaida linked groups. Their attacks
become systematically and many people have been killed, kidnapped, or displaced (For further
information please sees below listed links to reports, which have been verified by independent journalists
and NGOs.) Therefore, we ask the international community, the media, and the human rights
organizations to intervene without any delay to prevent further killing of civilians. Please raise your voice
against ongoing crime committed by Al-Qaida linked fundamentalist groups and Basher Assad Regime.
As above mentioned Western Kurdistan is less affected from the Syrian conflict yet and becomes a safe
haven for those who escape from the Syrian conflict. However, the Al-Qaida linked fundamentalist groups
will now export this war to Western Kurdistan through the logistical helps of some neighbouring countries.
The spread of war to West Kurdistan will cause a humanitarian disaster in the region and a brutal ethnic
cleansing against Kurdish people.
It is time to mobilize International communities, governments, NGOs, and media to prevent an upcoming
humanitarian disaster.
We would like to share with you some of the war crimes committed by the Basher al-Assad regime and by
the dissident groups and the gangs who have linked with Al-Qaeda since the beginning of the civil war.
First INCIDENT: Al-Nurse Front, which is linked to Al-Qaeda, has killed 50 Kurdish civilians and took 350
Kurds as prisoners in the towns Tal Hasil and Tal Aran of the city Aleppo.
Some news articles on the incident:
http://www.bianet.org/english/world/148926-kurdish-villages-attacked-in-aleppo?bia_source=rss
http://english.alarabiya.net/en/New...ts-hold-200-Syrian-Kurds-hostageNGO-says.html
Rojava sald r lar n n arkas nda ne var - BBC T rk e
2nd INCIDENT: The attempt of ethnic cleansing in Tell Abyad which began with the Al-Qaeda attacks in
Serêkaniyê (Ras al-Ayn) and Tell Abad including bombings of the Kurdish households.
Some news articles and videos about the incident.
Syrian Observatory for Human Rights (SOUR) has censured Al-Nurse for committing a war crime after
this incident. Https
3rd INCIDENT: A household became the target of mortar fire by Al-Nusra. A 10 year-old child was killed,
another child was injured.
Some news articles about the incident.
https://www.facebook.com/syriaohr/posts/399771136797897
4th INCIDENT: 16 civilians were killed after the combat aircrafts of the regime bombed the Hedad village in Tirbespiyê (Al-Qahtaniyah).
Some news articles and videos about the incident.
http://www.hawarnews.com/kurdi/index.php?
option=com_webplayer&view=video&wid=8&orderby=default&Itemid=58
http://www.aranews.org/en/home/kurdish-region/150-syr-ian-air-strikes-kill-16-civil
Why do I call it Islamophobia? And why is the major fighter against terrorism an evil terrorist scumbag?Truth hurts doesn't it?Please, spare me from your Zionist Islamterror propaganda against Syria. You have not even once shown us a crime committed by the terrorists, but only repeat their SOHR propaganda. I give a shit about you, Zionist puppet of disgusting contempt for mankind.They fled the terrorists.So you mean the hundreds of thousands of Syrian refugees who were fleeing Assad's goons, crossing the border into Turkey and Jordan creating a humanitarian crisis, were just TOURISTS? Ha ha ha. OMG how ignorant can one get?
If by terrorist you mean Assad and his goons, then yes. Stop lying and making up shit.
Syrian refugee families flee Assad s war on children - Telegraph
Syrian refugee families flee Assad's war on children
It wasn’t the first time Assad’s tanks had roared into the dusty country town of Al-Laja, a backwater 20 miles north of the Syrian city of Deraa. Families cowering inside their homes thought they knew what to expect: one or two arrests, maybe, and militiamen shooting at villagers’ homes to scare them.
But what happened 10 days ago was different. The Shabiha militia who followed the tanks tied a suspected army deserter to his motorbike and burnt him alive with paraffin; young men and teenagers old enough to fight for the rebels were dragged into the streets and shot; and two children, a boy aged 12 and his 10-year old sister, were murdered in their home.
“They stormed the house looking for their father, an officer with the rebel Omari Brigade, but he wasn’t there,” said Abu Shweti, 29. “So they killed his wife and children in revenge. I will never forget the sight. Something inside you dies when you see innocents who have been killed so brutally.”
It was the danger to his own children from Assad’s killers that persuaded Mr Shweti, and dozens of his neighbours, to flee Syria to safety in Jordan. Ordinary Syrians like them have become accustomed to horror in their bitter civil war. But with the violence suddenly worsening, and taking such a brutal twist — an estimated 1,000 people a week are now being killed, mostly civilians - thousands of families are pouring across Syria’s borders with their families.
Mr Shweti, a tough Bedouin goat herder, had arrived with his wife and five children, aged between 11 and three, in the Jordanian refugee camp of Zataari a day earlier after spending days on back roads dodging army patrols to reach safety.
“I brought my children here to protect them from the Shabiha,” he said. “Everyone in this camp has done the same. Here my family is safe. At home they could be killed. When I can I will go back to Syria to fight.”
The camp is a bleak tent city on a hot, barren plain in the desert a few miles south of the Syrian border, built in August for 100 families. Now 36,000 refugees are crammed behind its barbed wire fence, and the United Nations expects the population to increase to 80,000 by the end of the year. By then the total number of Syrian refugees in Jordan is expected to more than double to 250,000, putting great strain on the nation of 6.5 million which is already home to huge populations of Iraqis and Palestinians who fled from earlier wars.
Some 500 more Syrians turn up every day at Zaatari, exhausted, hungry, penniless, and with tales of bombings, shellings and atrocities. Aid workers and Jordanian officials fear that far more will arrive as the exodus from Syria swells, especially since Turkey restricted Syrians trying to escape across its border.
Many of the families who spoke to The Sunday Telegraph said they it was the increasingly grave danger to their children that had finally led them to leave, often after enduring months of brutal repression.
Refugees told of children being used as human shields, children being murdered by Shia militia with swords, and boys being massacred by security forces frustrated because they couldn’t find their fathers. Teenage boys are at particular risk from regime killers who suspect they may soon join rebels.
“They kill our children to break our hearts,” said one grandmotherly woman in the tent next to Mr Shweti. Her husband, a farmer with a bristly grey moustache, his head covered with a red-checkered headscarf, nodded grimly in agreement. “It is like Bosnia now, with terrible slaughter,” he added.
Mr Shweti admitted that, even after months of violence, he had been shaken by what he had seen in his own village.
“The name of the boy who was killed was Ramadan. I remember him playing with my own sons. It was revenge by them because they couldn’t find his father, and an attempt to terrorise us all.”
Children in the camp are nearly all traumatised. One of Mr Shweti’s sons, a lively boy called Abdullah, 10, wakes up every night after screaming in his sleep. “Last night he was shouting ‘Get them away from me’,” Mr Shweti said.
Boys at or near military conscription age are a particular worry for their families. Before, they would hide at home instead of answering the summons to report to army barracks.
“Everybody is getting their boys out if they are near the age for conscription,” said Abu Mohammed, 39 a carpenter. He didn’t want his two teenage sons to be forced to kill fellow Syrians. “Before, they were safe when we hid them at home. Not any more. Now the security forces search more thoroughly for them.”
He pulled up his shirt to show two bullet holes, from when he was used as a human shield by militia, he said.
Other refugees claimed the violence has got much worse in recent weeks as foreign mercenaries have appeared on the streets of their home towns and villages.
“I saw Iranians with the army in Damascus a month ago,” said Ahmad, 18. “They were devils. They killed a family by cutting their throats — a mother and father and three children, because they supported the rebels. I saw them dead in their house after the Iranians had been inside.”
He said they looked different to Syrians, with long beards, spoke Arabic with a strong accent, and had ‘Ya Ali’ tattooed on their wrists, in tribute to Ali, the son-in-law of the Prophet Mohammed who is revered by Shias. Other refugees insisted they had seen Hezbollah fighters, from Lebanon, and Iraqi Shia militia.
Like almost every inhabitant of the refugee camp, Ahmad — who did not want to give his full name for fear of spies — is a Sunni, the majority community in Syria which has led the uprising against the rule of President Assad.
“When they go to houses the foreign mercenaries don’t talk to anybody. They burn buildings and steal,” he said. “For sure the killing is getting worse, especially since they arrived. It is 100 per cent a religious war now — the Shias have most of the weapons, and they are killing Sunnis and trying to force us out.”
The conditions in the camp where they flee are grim, the midday heat unbearable in flimsy tents. Sandstorms howl across the barren plain. Aid workers are becoming deeply concerned that the refugees are unprepared for the imminent winter. Soon night time temperatures will be well below freezing, and most of the refugees arrived with just the clothes they fled in — usually just a T-shirt and jeans, or a summer dress.
Jordanian police had to fire tear gas into the camp last week when furious refugees started a riot because of their living conditions, setting fire to tents and vehicles. Once they are in, Syrians are not allowed to leave. So harsh are conditions in the camp that every night about 100 break out through the barbed wire fence, many returning to take their chances in Syria.
Refugees have adequate food, with handouts of groceries and communal kitchens now set up, and some cook for themselves. Latrines and showers are crowded and basic, and refugees complain the camp is full of regime informers. Jordanian police keep a rough and ready order, although their main job seems to be to stop refugees getting out.
Aid workers from the United Nations and other agencies privately admit that the scramble to prepare a camp as refugees flooded in has been difficult, and they fear that there is not enough funding yet to prepare for winter. Foreign donors have not been generous so far, although Morocco has set up medical facilities and Britain has been praised for providing crucial funding for the camp out of £18 million for Syrian refugees.
“When it becomes cold and starts to snow and rain it is going to be horrible in there,” said one aid worker. “It’s not the worst refugee camp I’ve ever seen but it is going to be a miserable winter for people who have lost everything.”
Many of the refugees are tough Bedouin who can cope with adversity, but there are also city people who will find the conditions a terrible shock: one woman in a tent was wearing expensive sunglasses and had a fashionable handbag, all that is left of the comfortable life she lived until a few weeks ago.
At least communal kitchens are being set up where the women can cook rice, beans, and a bit of meat; there were complaints that emergency ration packs of chicken and rice were inedible.
A million litres of water are being brought in by a fleet of lorries daily, but the operation is expensive and 400 metre deep wells are now being dug - an indication that the authorities believe the camp may become semi-permanent.
One refugee complained that Lakhdar Brahimi, the UN envoy for Syria, visited Zaatari by helicopter but spent little time with its inmates - some of whom held a demonstration complaining that his attempt to broker a peace deal made him a stooge of the regime. “He went straight to the United Nations people. He didn’t come to speak to us or hear our complaints,” the man said.
Last month bedraggled refugees crossing the border from war-torn Syria at night were greeted by the startling and far more glamorous sight of Angelina Jolie, the actress, who was on a tour of the Middle East to bring attention to the plight of refugees from Assad’s regime. At least she was trying.
“Nobody cares about us,” said Abu Iyad, an unshaven man in his thirties wearing a tattered T-shirt. One of his sons was killed last week. “Until the world helps us our suffering will go on.”
I live it when someone brings up Muslim atrocities, morons like you call it Islamiphobia.
Assad is an evil terrorist scumbag, whether you can deal with it or not..
You mean in touch with Al-Qaeda? Great, making her the best informed person here, great. Al-Qaeda will only tell her the truthYou know exactly what sites I mean. Beside that is every site a terrorist propaganda site that publishes terrorist propaganda. Your torture photos are western produced propaganda, probably from one of the various US torture prisons in many countries. Today it is 40 thousand pics, tomorrow its 55.000 and then it is 35 thousand. Of course only the few example photos that have been in the media exist. And of course there is no sign from where the pics could come from. Nothing but propaganda.While crawling on terrorist propaganda websites you claim to have connections to Syria. But you have nothing but the order to spread terrorist propaganda in the name of Uncle Sam. Shame on you and Uncle Sam.I have the advantage of knowing the family, so there is nothing false about my view of Bashar. I have friends from Syria that keep me up to date with what is happening. I am well aware with the history of the syrian army, Bashar and his father both in Lebanon and Syria.
I doubt you have either personal knowledge or experience with the Assads, or even keep up to date with the news of events.
Have you even actually been to syria? Either before or after the civil war began? Have you even been to the middle east?
How did you become so infatuated with Bashar? Websites? How many syrians do you know? What sect are they? What do you know of his clan? Of the alwaites? Of the Baath Party?
News sites around the world are now terrorist websites? So, only syria state websites are not propaganda? You know nothing of syria or the syrians. You have proven that time and again.
I've had reservation even before Haf.Ass. took control and I've been an advocate for the syrians since the '70's.
You seem to be delusional to think stability by sledgehammer is a good thing. You can't understand how the people have suffered. You would have the world ruled by dictators that abuse their own people and force them into submission? Maybe you wish Hitler had won, or Stalin, or Pol Pot, etc.?
You would kill all those that speak out? Like the Romans, you would crucify hundreds of thousands? Perhaps put a guillotine in every town square? Impale the opposition on a forest of pikes along every road?
Have you ever even looked at what tortures were carried out at Mezze, Tadmor, Adra, Sednaya, Raqqa, etc.?
http://www.hrw.org/sites/default/files/reports/syria0712webwcover_0.pdf
http://english.alarabiya.net/en/New...uncil-Syria-torture-photos-are-credible-.html
These things have been going on for decades under the Assads. There are some 150,000 civilians that have disappeared into syria prisons. 55,000 photos of those abused or killed in syria jails presented to the UN. More than 250,000 killed in the war, 90% by the Assad forces.
How can you be blind, deft and dumb to what is happening? It is not a matter of lack of evidence, but your refusal to actually see the evidence for yourself. How can you be complicit with the abuses carried out by the Assad regime?
Torture report 10 examples of the horror in the CIA s prisons - Telegraph
While busy to falsely blame the Syrian government, you refused to list crimes of FSA and Co so far. That makes you a terrorist propagandist. An ugly minded bogus terrorroach. You call yourself an advocate of the Syrian people? Al-Nusra claims to liberate the Syrian people...
Listen, you Little Cockroach, Aris has a better handle than you have on what is going on over there. Not only does she comes from that area of the world, she is still in touch with people living there.
