arrested for small tip, WTF?? followup

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    the last I heard, tips were extra for good service.

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    LAKE GEORGE, N.Y -- A New York City man accused of leaving an inadequate tip at a restaurant was arrested, fingerprinted and photographed for a mug shot.
    Humberto A. Taveras, 41, faces a misdemeanor charge of theft of services after he and his fellow diners argued with Soprano's Italian and American Grill managers over the legality of requiring an 18 percent tip for large parties.
     
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    Local radio said that the guy didn't pay his whole tab, kinda the same as not paying at all? :mm:
     
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    not paying his whole tab, would that be because the 'required' 18% tip is listed as part of the bill? did he pay for all the food ordered?
     
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    Lots of places have required gratuity for large parties. Its included in the bill, and generally advertised in the menu.
     
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    I've worked in food service in the past, I know places have it for large parties, but how can it 'legally' be required?
     
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    A question for acludem perhaps?
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    Most places do this. It's just like UPS or Fed Ex charging extra for shipping if the package is particularly big. I do think it's bs in this case. No matter the size of the party, if you get crappy service there shouldn't be an automatic anything.
     
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    I'd guess the establishment shouldn't require tipping for large parties (is a party of SIX 'large'??); they should simply pay their employees better when they serve larger parties. :)
     
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    or charge a 'sitting' fee for large parties.
     
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    TIP....To Insure Perfect Service.

    I grew up around fine dinning establishments. I know what a tip is and isn't.
    First....It's not MANDATORY which is what these places that stick
    that note (15, 18, 20% Tip added to parties of XXX or more) on the menu would like you to think.
    Increasingly you'll find a mandatory tip included for anyone in some places.

    This is something the public is bringing on themselves, as well as the typical
    poor service that is the norm these days.
    It amazes me that people will accept a $20+meal not including drinks etc. dropped in front of them never to
    see the waiter/waitress again till check time and then pay $40-60 (party of two) or more
    AND still leave a 15-20% tip because they think they are suppose to! For what, someone to take your order?

    I refuse to ever eat in any restaurant that require mandatory tips.
    All you can be sure you'll get is crappy service.

    Restaurants stick this "Tip Added" in to keep their lazy ass staff.
    Personally I don't think this restaurant has a legal leg to stand on.

    Hope that make sense...I'm in a hurry...
     

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