Ariz. immigration law mirrors federal version

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Ariz. immigration law mirrors federal version
but with state enforcement
Arizona's new immigration enforcement law is designed to mirror federal immigration laws already in place.
Federal law mandates that aliens register and carry their documentation. Arizona's new law functions the same way
The law does not give police officers any additional powers to stop or pull anybody over.
Mr. Dane (Federation for American Immigration Reform) made it clear that an officer of the law cannot simply walk up to an individual who is not committing a crime or traffic violation and ask the person for his or her legal status.
If an individual committing a violation or crime is found out to have an illegal status, the law enforcement officer will contact immigration authorities.
Only after all of that is the cop going to be required (he is now required under the law) to ask about immigration status, but then and only if the person has reasonable suspicion the person might be an illegal alien, and then, even then he can't use as part of his reasonable suspicion, he can't consider race, color, or national origin, as part of his suspicion."
"No. If you have proper identification, you're going to be on your way. If you produce a driver's license, a valid Arizona ID card -- if you are a Native American, there's a lot of Native Americans on reservations in Arizona, police officers very often get the tribal ID cards or any other state or federal ID that requires proof of legal presence," Mr. Dane said.

Do you still believe Arizona is Nazi Germany, Mr. Scarborough?
Ariz. immigration law mirrors federal version but with state enforcement - Washington Times


The reason Obama and DOJ are trying to stop Arizona's immigration law is because they don't want any immigrations laws enforced.

 

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Ariz. immigration law mirrors federal version
but with state enforcement
Arizona's new immigration enforcement law is designed to mirror federal immigration laws already in place.
Federal law mandates that aliens register and carry their documentation. Arizona's new law functions the same way
The law does not give police officers any additional powers to stop or pull anybody over.
Mr. Dane (Federation for American Immigration Reform) made it clear that an officer of the law cannot simply walk up to an individual who is not committing a crime or traffic violation and ask the person for his or her legal status.
If an individual committing a violation or crime is found out to have an illegal status, the law enforcement officer will contact immigration authorities.
Only after all of that is the cop going to be required (he is now required under the law) to ask about immigration status, but then and only if the person has reasonable suspicion the person might be an illegal alien, and then, even then he can't use as part of his reasonable suspicion, he can't consider race, color, or national origin, as part of his suspicion."
"No. If you have proper identification, you're going to be on your way. If you produce a driver's license, a valid Arizona ID card -- if you are a Native American, there's a lot of Native Americans on reservations in Arizona, police officers very often get the tribal ID cards or any other state or federal ID that requires proof of legal presence," Mr. Dane said.

Do you still believe Arizona is Nazi Germany, Mr. Scarborough?
Ariz. immigration law mirrors federal version but with state enforcement - Washington Times


The reason Obama and DOJ are trying to stop Arizona's immigration law is because they don't want any immigrations laws enforced.

I did not click on the links because the article itself is in error. The Arizona law allows for searches as in random road - blocks AND it allows for profiling based upon race, color, etc. provided that is not the only determining factor. The deal is, with a random search, the whole thing is rendered moot and LEOs will definitely look into a person's ID and scrutinize them a bit more based upon race.

The real danger is how the precedent this sets will affect AMERICANS. A lot of you may fit the profile of an enemy combatant / domestic terrorist and end up being judged guilty until proven innocent. I've personally known quite a number of people this has already happened to under those federal statutes.

I'm equally turned off by that legislation because, as I continue to warn, it is being promoted by National Socialists:

Russell Pearce Supporter, Neo-Nazi J.T. Ready Dead In Domestic Shooting Spree | Care2 Causes

Russell Pearce's Willie Horton: White supremacist J.T. Ready. - Phoenix News - Feathered Bastard

J.T. Ready-- neo-Nazi, Russell Pearce's pal, and candidate for sheriff-- dead - Blog For Arizona

(Provided as news sources only. Use of the links does not mean I necessarily agree with any political positions taken by the site's owners.)

 

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This will give much information to share it idea in making new things to established understanding to help it go easy things.

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I guessing it's a "bot". As much as 40% of posters on some social media sites are "automatic posting robots".

 

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Granny says tell `em to scoot their butts back across the border an' dey won't have nothin' to worry `bout...

Ala. is lab for Ariz.-style immigration provision
27 June`12 — Moments after the U.S. Supreme Court upheld the "show me your papers" provision of Arizona's immigration law, the switchboard lit up at one of Alabama's largest Spanish-language radio stations as worried listeners called in.

"They're wanting to know if they're going to get stopped or arrested," said Orlando Rosa, the operations manager for La Jefa. Alabama offers a glimpse of what may lay ahead for immigrants in several states that passed their own strict immigration laws modeled at least in part on Arizona's. Of those five states, only Alabama had been allowed by federal courts to enforce the "lawful stop" or "show me your papers" provision until this week. That could change now that the Supreme Court upheld the section of Arizona's law that requires police to check the status of people who might appear to be in the U.S. illegally. The court overturned three other parts of the Arizona law.

Georgia, South Carolina, Indiana and Utah also approved laws based on Arizona's. All or parts of the laws were blocked in each state, and legal challenges can move forward now that the Supreme Court has ruled on the Arizona law. Already in Alabama, even a chance encounter with police scares many immigrants. But they fear the Supreme Court decision could make things worse. "Alabama is the lab for this part of the law," said Mary Bauer, legal director of the Southern Poverty Law Center, a Montgomery-based advocacy group that is opposing the Alabama law.

Javier Hernandez, who has been living in Alabama without documents for 12 years, spends time before he drives checking things like headlights and blinkers to make sure police don't have a reason to pull him over. "You have to always be alert, make sure the cops don't stop you," he said through a translator, adding that he entered the country illegally to support his wife and two sons back in Mexico. In northeast Alabama, where a large number of Hispanic immigrants work in poultry plants, Pastor Fernando Rodriguez moaned when he learned of the Supreme Court's ruling. With a congregation of about 300 people, he fears the decision will mean Alabama police become more aggressive. "It's terrible," Rodriguez, of Lus a las Naciones in Albertville, said Tuesday. "Right now there is a lot of concern about the cops."

So far, the worry isn't translating into a new exodus from Alabama — at least yet. Management at two Birmingham-area mobile home communities with large Hispanic populations said they don't know of anyone moving out because of the ruling. Still, some immigrants — both legal and illegal residents — say they are terrified of the requirement. They fear detentions will split families apart. Many Illegal immigrants in Alabama say they are afraid to leave home, so they often travel at night. Some use cellphones and text messages to avoid police roadblocks. After parts of the law took effect last year, many parents signed legal documents allowing others to care for their children in case they are deported. Rosa, the radio station worker, said listeners panicked reflexively when they heard something on the news about "Supreme Court," ''police," and "immigration," prompting the flood of calls. "They're worried, frustrated, wanting to know how it's affecting Alabama," said Rosa.

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Court ruling leaves Ariz. to rely on feds
Mon, Jun 25, 2012 — For all the declarations of victory, the U.S. Supreme Court's decision to preserve the "show me your papers" provision in Arizona's immigration law means the state can enforce the statute only with the help of its chief critic: the federal government.

The court's decision Monday struck down parts of the law, but preserved one that requires local police to check the immigration status of people stopped for various reasons and whom officers believe are in the country illegally. There was a catch, however. The court decided that officers cannot detain anyone on an immigration violation. That is, unless federal immigration officials say so. Sheriff Joe Arpaio, the controversial lawman known for his anti-immigration raids, said he was concerned whether federal agents will decline to pick up some illegal immigrants who are stopped by his deputies. "I have my suspicions," he said.

Hours after the ruling, the Department of Homeland Security canceled agreements with seven Arizona police departments that deputized officers to arrest people on immigration violations while on street patrol. Federal immigration officers will help, but only if doing so conforms to the department's priorities, including catching repeat violators and identifying and removing those who threaten public safety and national security, the department said. If federal agents decline to pick up immigrants, the state doesn't have any way to force federal authorities to pick them up and will likely have to let them go unless they're suspected of committing a crime that would require them to be brought to jail, said Peter Spiro, a Temple University law professor who specializes in immigration law.

In that sense, the law is symbolic, Spiro said. "(The questioning requirement) is useful to the extent that it allows states to give notice of hostilities to undocumented immigrants," Spiro said. "It allows for a formal expression of the state's hostilities toward undocumented immigrants." Meanwhile, if local police get the chance to enforce the law and are not blocked by a federal injunction, they will be closely watched not just by immigrant rights advocates who are on the lookout for racial profiling. They will also face scrutiny from residents who have been frustrated by and blamed the federal government for a porous border and can under the immigration law sue police departments that don't follow the "show me your papers" provision. A federal hotline was set up for the public to report potential civil rights concerns.

Immigrant rights advocates plan to launch a public relations campaign in hopes of quelling fears about the law and hold public meetings across the state to explain the law. A hotline run by a civil rights group will take questions about the law and document reports of abuses by police. About 50 immigrant rights supporters rallied peacefully outside an Immigration and Customs Enforcement office near downtown Phoenix. Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer called the decision a victory for all Americans, but said she expected lawsuits to challenge the implementation of the law. "It's certainly not the end of our journey," she said.

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