Are You Guys Ready For Your National ID Cards?

[NuclearWinter]

One thing not to be overlooked is the fact that the current teenage generation is being bombarded with drugs that are WAY more harmful than anything I was introduced to as a teen. I'm 24 now, but even back when I was 15 the only thing we really knew about in my area was marijuana, alcohol, crack (which nobody I know touched), and sniffing cocaine. That was about it. Besides the occasional person who took pills, but the point is that none of those drugs really did actual major physical harm to the brain (and a person's entire personality), aside from maybe the crack and some of the pills, but as I said before those types of drugs were the minority.

The problem is, now we have all these teenagers walking around who are turning their brains into mush. Literally. I feel so sorry for them. I look into some of their eyes and I see a lifeless body, with no emotions and no motivation at all. In my area, tweek (crystal meth) has effected more teenagers than most people would imagine. So many of the teens have been introduced to this horrible drug, and they are no longer able to think for themselves or function.

I see 12-14 year old kids riding around on bicycles at 2-3 in the morning looking for their next score of meth. And now they've got something called cheese to destroy their brains even more. I guess it's a mixture of horrible drugs that you can sniff.

When a large section of our young society decided that destroying our bodies and brains was more fun than living, that's where we've gone wrong. If things don't change, much of the next generation after this one will be a bunch of zombies with self induced bi-polar disorders and all kinds of other mental disabilities.

The truth is though, is that there is not much we can do for those teens and adults who chose the brain tissue damaging drug path. Those people are gone for life, or at least until medical science figures out how to regenerate dead brain tissue anyway. So all we can do, is try to reach out to those teens and adults who haven't chosen that path, and that should be our target audience. There is a massive change going on in this planet right now, people are aligning themselves with about 3 different major categories. 1. Those who want to destroy our country and introduce One World Government to the planet. 2. Those who are opposed to a One World tyranical Government and who oppose any notion of a nation without borders and the loss of freedoms such as the United States Constitution. 3. Those who don't currently care enough to pay attention to either side (they are more concerned about making money and staying in the rat race at the moment).

Now, the good news is, categories 2 and 3 can be brought together. Most all of the people in category 1 are usually so brainwashed or just plain evil that they will never change their stance. Although, it is possible for some of them to change their minds, because it has happened in the past, where some have actually turned on their puppet-masters.

But, as it stands now, we need to focus on categories 2 and 3. They are the key. The people who are still blinded by the rat race can be awakened. Some of them will be persuaded by those who want a One World Government and total control of the World's money supply and monetary system. But it will be the minority of the people on this Earth. We are the majority. We have the ability to win this fight. And I believe we will.

 

[NuclearWinter]

Real ID would significantly strain state governments. Among the most significant burdens:

It would require the states to remake their driver's licenses, restructure many of their computer databases and other systems, create an extensive new document-storage system, and considerably expanded their security measures.

It would require the states to set up an interstate data-sharing network, which would also require complex administrative, technical, and security measures.

It includes a devilishly difficult mandate that states verify the issuance, validity and completeness of every birth certificate, immigration document, utility bill, and any other document presented at DMVs as part of an application for a Real ID card.

Yet, it leaves the DMVs with no way to compel utility companies or other document issuers to cooperate with that verification.

It would require states to expand their DMV payrolls, initiate or expand employee training in such areas as security, document verification, and immigration law, and initiate or expand security clearance procedures for their workers.

Many in state government are saying that it would be nearly impossible to comply with Real ID by the Act's deadline.

 

[NuclearWinter]

Real ID would mean higher fees, inconveniences, and bureaucratic nightmares for individuals.

Higher fees. Because the Act's mandates would cost states billions of dollars that Congress is not paying for, fees on individuals applying for driver's licenses would inevitably rise, perhaps steeply. State taxes might also go up.

Worse service. Because of the new document requirements for individuals, the labor-intensive complexities involved in verifying those documents, and the need for DMVs to reprocess the bulk of the population that already has driver's licenses, individuals would be likely to confront slower service, longer lines, and the need for repeat visits to the DMV.

Bureaucratic problems. The complicated yet often ambiguous maze of requirements created by the Act would throw many unlucky individuals into a bureaucratic quagmire as they try to overcome inflexible verification requirements, bureaucratic errors or mismatches, lost documents, unique circumstances, or other problems. Some individuals, inevitably, would find themselves unable to obtain these new identity papers.

These kinds of problems would be significant for anyone. In addition, for many low-income workers for whom taking off time from work is difficult or expensive, the need for repeated trips to the DMV (and to other agencies such as registrar's offices in search of birth certificates) would be an even greater burden.

 

[NuclearWinter]

Millions of Americans do not have driver's licenses. Out of a population of 290 million residents, there are only 194 million licensed drivers. In addition to millions of children and teenagers, the elderly are particularly likely to lack licenses. An estimated 36 percent of Georgia residents over age 74, for example, lack driver's licenses.

By creating strict new identity requirements for federal identification and, inevitably, expanding them over time to cover a growing list of purposes, Real ID would force the people in this population to figure out a way to jump through the bureaucratic hoops required to get compliant identity documents and leave DMVs struggling with how to process them.

In some cases, individuals would not be able to obtain birth certificates, or the documents they have in hand upon arriving at the DMV would not be able to be verified.

Over the decades, records are lost through fires, floods, and disasters such as Hurricane Katrina.

Documents can be rendered suspect due to fraud or malfeasance. In 2004, for example, thousands of Hudson County, NJ residents received word that their birth certificates had been declared invalid because of an ongoing fraud investigation at the County Clerks office.

Over 30 million people in the U.S. are foreign-born, and many of them were born in remote undeveloped nations or other places where no birth records are kept, or in places (such as what is now North Korea) where any records might be difficult or impossible to obtain.

Some people are not sure when or even where they were born.

 

[NuclearWinter]

It is far from clear what would happen to such people. Real ID is silent on how such individuals should be handled, so DMVs would need to figure out if they would simply be denied identity papers, or if their applications could be processed in some other way consistent with the Act.

 

[NuclearWinter]

Whether or not they obtain second class licenses, those who cannot get Real ID-compliant identity documents could in theory be left unable to fly on commercial aircraft, enter federal facilities such as courthouses or office buildings, or even possibly get a job legally.

Furthermore, the list of activities for which these IDs are required is sure to expand, if the current mindless trend of seeking security through identity papers is not reversed. In fact, the Real ID Act explicitly says that Real IDs shall be required not only for activities like boarding aircraft, but also for any other purposes that "the Secretary [of Homeland Security] shall determine."

The legislation that was rammed into law provided no money to pay the states costs to comply, so those costs would ultimately be borne by the residents of each state if not in the form of higher fees at the DMV, then in the form of higher taxes.

That is why Real ID is for all intents and purposes a hidden tax increase. If Congressional leaders want to impose a multi-billion-dollar security tax on the American citizens, they must do so only through well-established mechanisms and after a proper period of open debate and exploratory hearings that examine the costs and benefits of such a measure. Congressional leaders must not impose an enormously expensive (and dubiously effective) security scheme while trying to weasel out of paying for such a scheme by sneaking its costs along to taxpayers through higher license fees and/or state tax increases.

 

[NuclearWinter]

Real ID would become a key infrastructure for, and dramatically accelerate, the surveillance society that is already being constructed in the United States. Once put in place, it would be used more and more for the routine tracking, monitoring, and regulation of individuals movements and activities, it would be exploited by the private sector, and it would expose individuals to greater risk of identity theft and other security risks. Its centralized database would inevitably, over time, become the repository for more and more data on individuals, and would be drawn on for an ever-wider set of purposes.

The creation of a single interlinked database (as well as the requirement that each DMV store copies of all the birth certificates and other documents presented to it) would create a one-stop shop for identity thieves. Nearly 10 million people, or 5 percent of U.S. adults, were victims of identity theft in one year (2002) alone, according to a U.S. Federal Trade Commission study. The security problems with creating concentrated databases have been repeatedly demonstrated over the years most recently in the rash of cases where information held by commercial database companies has fallen into the hands of identity thieves or others. The governments record at information security is little better. And DMV employees around the country have repeatedly been caught in corruption schemes such as selling fraudulent licenses or data to identity thieves.

The new identity system created by Real ID would accelerate a larger American trend toward a the construction of a public-private Security-Industrial Complex. Data aggregators like ChoicePoint, Acxiom, Lexis-Nexis and others make up an enormous, multi-billion-dollar industry that builds dossiers on individuals using a wide array of sources. And the government is increasingly turning to such companies for help with security functions. The FBI, for example, pays millions to ChoicePoint, and the TSA wants to use private-sector firms in performing identity checks on airline passengers.

The common machine-readable technology on Real IDs would allow for easy, computerized transfer of the data on the cards not only to the government at checkpoints like airports, but also to private parties. Already, many bars already collect all their customers information (including such details as height and weight) by swiping drivers licenses handed over to prove legal drinking age. That might prove to be just the tip of the iceberg as every big-box retailer, convenience store, and liquor mart learns to grab that data and sell it to Choicepoint for a dime. The result would be that, even if the states and federal government do successfully protect the data, it would be harvested by private companies, which would then build up a parallel, for-profit database on Americans, free from even the limited privacy rules in effect for the government.

 

[NuclearWinter]

Although individual states drivers licenses may continue to exhibit cosmetic differences, under Real ID they would contain a standardized set of information collected by all 50 states, in standard format, encoded on a standardized machine-readable zone. And although individual states would still maintain their own databases, by requiring them to be interlinked, Real ID would bring into being what is, for all practical purposes, a single distributed database. In short, underneath each states pretty designs they are really a single standardized national card. Local DMV offices may continue to appear to be state offices, but under Real ID they would become agents acting on behalf of the federal government, charged with administering what amounts to an internal passport without which no one will be able to function in America.

There will also be a construction of a larger network of identity papers, databases, status and identity checks and access control points in short, what has been called an internal passport. If the old drivers license represented a license to drive the governments very specific permission to operate a vehicle on the public roadways the fear is that the new documents will become tantamount to a license to leave your house.

National IDs would violate privacy by helping to consolidate data. There is an enormous and ever-increasing amount of data being collected about Americans today. Ones grocery store, for example, might use a loyalty card to keep detailed records of what you buy, while Amazon keeps records of what you read, the airlines keep track of where you fly, and so on. This can be an invasion of privacy, but our privacy has actually been protected by the fact that all this information still remains scattered across many different databases. But once the government, landlords, employers, or other powerful forces gain the ability to draw together all this information, our privacy will really be destroyed. And that is exactly what a national identity system would facilitate.

A national ID like Real ID would also facilitate tracking. When a police officer or security guard scans your ID card with his pocket bar-code reader, for example, it will likely create a permanent record of that check, including the time and your location. How long before office buildings, doctors offices, gas stations, highway tolls, subways and buses incorporate the ID card into their security or payment systems for greater efficiency? The end result could be a situation where citizens movements inside their own country are monitored and recorded through these internal passports.

 

[NuclearWinter]

State legislators, interested citizens, and other individuals can join with the many governors and interest groups who oppose this legislation and force Congress to repeal and/or rework it. In addition, if only a few states refuse to make Real ID-compliant drivers licenses for their citizens (an entirely lawful option), the system envisioned by its sponsors will be thrown into crisis, further pressuring Congress to revisit the issue, this time with proper democratic consideration and debate. If this does not happen, this legislation will in however a chaotic and delayed fashion go into effect and reshape the power structure of this nation in the most basic ways.

This law federalizes and standardizes state drivers licenses for all 50 states, and it will result in something that has been resisted in this country for a long time -- a de facto national identity card.

The Real ID Act was pushed through Congress in 2005 with little meaningful debate. It imposes sweeping changes on state drivers licenses that will result in significant new fees and hassles for everyone who needs a license or ID not to mention posing a new threat to Americans privacy. And, our experience suggests that if Real ID becomes the standard for drivers licenses, it will worsen the problem of identity theft.

Unfortunately, we all know that these IDs will be counterfeited within hours of release and if they are perceived as super-reliable, they will be all the more valuable and attractive as a target for crooks. Crooks have always proven to be very clever and able to make IDs look realistic, and we have no reason to doubt this will be any different. They will figure it out very quickly or simply bribe a DMV official somewhere in the country to provide a genuine (but fraudulent) card. A number of cases of bribery at DMVs have come to light in recent years. And merchants and government clerks simply are not experts in determining whether an ID they're looking at is the real thing.

 

[NuclearWinter]

Real ID will also create new opportunities for ID thieves to commit their crime. The law requires DMVs to store scanned copies of birth certificates, Social Security cards, and any other documents that individuals present when they apply for a license. It creates a national linked database allowing millions of employees at all levels of government around the nation to access personal data. And it mandates a nationally standardized machine-readable zone that will let bars, merchants and other private parties scan personal data off licenses with greater ease than ever before, putting all that information into even greater circulation.

Real ID is the subject of an ongoing battle in the state legislatures, many of which are moving toward rejecting participation. Consumers concerned about privacy and identity theft might want to make their voices heard by contacting their state or federal legislators.

Real ID is a big step toward a national ID card, and it will open the door to government invasions of privacy and to identity theft.

The Real ID Act imposes tremendous costs on state governments, yet any state that opts out will automatically make nonpersons out of its citizens.

The citizens of that state will be unable to have any dealings with the federal government because their ID will not be accepted. They will not be able to fly or to take a train. In essence, in the eyes of the federal government, they will cease to exist.

The Real ID Act turns state driver's licenses into de facto national ID cards, thus facilitating the massive invasion of an American's privacy, facilitating the growth of the surveillance state, and turning America into the type of country where citizens must always have their 'papers in order.'"

 

[NuclearWinter]

The Real ID Act creates a federal identity document that every American will need in order to fly on commercial airlines, enter government buildings, open a bank account, and more.

It creates huge administrative burdens for state governments, while providing no federal funds for implementing its onerous requirements. At the same time, it does nothing to combat terrorism, and puts us at greater risk for invasions of privacy and identity theft.

The Real ID Act was slipped through Congress in an Iraq War/Tsunami relief supplemental bill in May 2005. Cutting off a "negotiated rulemaking" that had included the ACLU and other key stakeholders from Homeland Security to state officials as part of a process to update the nation's driver's licenses, Real ID imposes a clumsy and burdensome set of requirements on states as part of its aim to definitively turn Americans' driver's licenses into a true national idenity card system.

This Act is a giant unfunded federal mandate that will create enormous initial and ongoing administrative burdens and costs for states. It will also create burdens for individual citizens including a higher cost and longer wait for licensing. And it is far from clear that these extraordinary costs will bring any benefits in preventing terrorism. Before states spend the substantial resources Real ID will require, they owe it to their citizens to seriously question the necessity and efficacy of implementing the Real ID Act.

The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) has been charged by Congress with issuing regulations spelling out the details of these and other requirements. In some cases, the administrative burdens faced by the states will depend greatly on exactly what requirements DHS decides to impose. Nevertheless, the outlines of the burdens it will impose are clear from the statute itself.

 

[Taomon]

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Can you say mark of the beast?

 

[Helios]

Can you say mark of the beast?

The REALLY smart people willingly chip their babies, so the government can keep them EXTRA safe.

 

[Steerpike]

Here's a link to a lot of the cut and paste from NuclearWinter, which is probably better to possible copyright infringement or spamming the forum:

http://www.ilw.com/articles/2007,0517-aclu.shtm

 

[Shogun]

I don't know which group is more retarded: the "mark of the beasters" or the "black 'copter just landed on my roofers"

 

[Taomon]

I don't know which group is more retarded: the "mark of the beasters" or the "black 'copter just landed on my roofers"

I think the most retarded of all are the willingly blind. You know the ones, they act smug and bark sarcastic remarks at anyone who questions the official position or connect the dots that we are supposed to over look.

 

[Shogun]

CONNECT the dots, eh?

how's that conspiracy shit working out for you this side of being prescribed meds for schizophrenic delusions?

HO NOOeZ! Dey commin for mee!


as sad as the black 'copter crew is I have to give the award to the Beasters since i'm working on achieving the unforgivable sin today.



Then again, that's what my illuminati handler told me to say on pain of death so take it however you like it.

 

[NuclearWinter]

CONNECT the dots, eh?

how's that conspiracy shit working out for you this side of being prescribed meds for schizophrenic delusions?

HO NOOeZ! Dey commin for mee!


as sad as the black 'copter crew is I have to give the award to the Beasters since i'm working on achieving the unforgivable sin today.



Then again, that's what my illuminati handler told me to say on pain of death so take it however you like it.

I'd have more respect for people like you if you offered a reason as to why the REAL ID was a wonderful idea. But instead, it's people like you in cases like this who offer nothing for the growth of Humanity. You are not the majority, so stop feeling like it. You are the one that looks crazy. You babble on and on but nothing substantial, helpful, or insightful comes out of your words.

If we want that, we should all get a fricken parakeet and listen to it churp all day. We would get more benefits from the vibration of it's sound than we would from your nonsense.

 

[Shogun]

I'll give you one fucking example that trumps your delusional paranoia.


Missing Children.

Now, go ahead and tell me how injected RF transmitters that help locate missing and kidnapped children is less significant than your silly fucking fictitious heavy imagination.


please. I'll wait since it takes a majority to indicate reason.

 

[NuclearWinter]

I'll give you one fucking example that trumps your delusional paranoia.


Missing Children.

Now, go ahead and tell me how injected RF transmitters that help locate missing and kidnapped children is less significant than your silly fucking fictitious heavy imagination.


please. I'll wait since it takes a majority to indicate reason.

Because a missing child with an RFID chip grows into an adult with an RFID chip. Thats why. And no Human being should ever be tagged like an animal, thats why. And it's not so easy to have the chip removed, thats why. And the chip has already been proven to lead to cancer in rats, thats why.