Are Environmental Regulations Unnecessary?

[orogenicman]

Nough said...

 

[peach174]

They are very necessary but it should not be overregulated either.

 

[ScienceRocks]

The right wing loons will argue that the corporations should be able to screw our environment up. It isn't like the corporations haven't constantly attempted to fuck us in the past.

 

[orogenicman]

They are very necessary but it should not be overregulated either.

Define 'overregulated'?

 

[orogenicman]

The right wing loons will argue that the corporations should be able to screw our environment up. It isn't like the corporations haven't constantly attempted to fuck us in the past.

Right. Using their logic, just like we don't have a right to healthcare, we don't have a right to a clean environment.

 

[martybegan]

Nough said...

The photograph means nothing, and you know it. For all we know that can be fog at dusk or dawn.

Fluff, nothing but.

 

[martybegan]

They are very necessary but it should not be overregulated either.

Define 'overregulated'?

Basically anything a modern "environmentalist recommends."

Most of them have the goal of banning, not regulating.

 

[peach174]

They are very necessary but it should not be overregulated either.

Define 'overregulated'?

I will give you an example.
Our Electric CoOp has a coal filter that has been tested to be more efficient and costs less than the EPA's but the EPA is trying to force their filter to be used.
The EPA's filter costs much more and is less efficient than the one our Electric Company wants to use.

 

[orogenicman]

Nough said...

The photograph means nothing, and you know it. For all we know that can be fog at dusk or dawn.

Fluff, nothing but.

You would have to have been born after the 1970s, or else be willfully ignorant not to know how bad the pollution was back then. Take your pick.

 

[orogenicman]

They are very necessary but it should not be overregulated either.

Define 'overregulated'?

I will give you an example.
Our Electric CoOp has a coal filter that has been tested to be more efficient and costs less than the EPA's but the EPA is trying to force their filter to be used.
The EPA's filter costs much more and is less efficient than the one our Electric Company wants to use.

The EPA doesn't make filters. Next.

 

[Old Rocks]

Nough said...

The photograph means nothing, and you know it. For all we know that can be fog at dusk or dawn.

Fluff, nothing but.

Either you are a completely ignorant fuck or a purposeful liar. I was born in '43, and I saw the brown air in the cities on the West Coast. Our air and water is far cleaner than than it was from the time I was a child until the regulations began to take effect in the '80's.

 

[TheOldSchool]

Dirty water and smog make our bodies stronger.

 

[Old Rocks]

Are you joining the present field of candidates for the GOP?

 

[TheOldSchool]

Are you joining the present field of candidates for the GOP?

I've sent out feelers. Please don't ask me about evolution.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Nough said...

 

[westwall]

They are very necessary but it should not be overregulated either.

Define 'overregulated'?

Requiring a pool cleaning company to spend 25,000 to clean up a one gallon spill of hydrochloric acid that dropped off of their truck. They had to scrape up several yards of dirt and ship it cross country to a hazardous waste dump. That is the definition of insanity.

Now, you claim to be educated. Why did CA require that level of idiocy?

 

[Kosh]

They are very necessary but it should not be overregulated either.

Define 'overregulated'?

I will give you an example.
Our Electric CoOp has a coal filter that has been tested to be more efficient and costs less than the EPA's but the EPA is trying to force their filter to be used.
The EPA's filter costs much more and is less efficient than the one our Electric Company wants to use.

The EPA doesn't make filters. Next.

No they only fine you millions of dollars for not having it and could even possibly shut down the operation..

 

[Crick]

The EPA enforcing its regulations is not a case of over-regulation. It might be considered overzealous enforcement. Over-regulation is something that would be done by Congress. If the description of the event is accurate, is suggests the EPA might need better methods by which citizens can request waivers or excusatory judgements; of course, assuming such things don't already exist but are simply not mentioned in Peach174's anecdote.

 

[orogenicman]

They are very necessary but it should not be overregulated either.

Define 'overregulated'?

Requiring a pool cleaning company to spend 25,000 to clean up a one gallon spill of hydrochloric acid that dropped off of their truck. They had to scrape up several yards of dirt and ship it cross country to a hazardous waste dump. That is the definition of insanity.

Now, you claim to be educated. Why did CA require that level of idiocy?

If they did that, they were just plain stupid. They could have simply neutralized the acidic soil with lime and disposed of it at a sanitary landfill for about $35 per cubic yard. All the landfill would need to know is if it is within the acceptable ranges for reactivity, corrosivity, and ignitability (RCI). If it was, they would have been good to go. RCI defines whether or not material is hazardous.

 

[westwall]

They are very necessary but it should not be overregulated either.

Define 'overregulated'?

Requiring a pool cleaning company to spend 25,000 to clean up a one gallon spill of hydrochloric acid that dropped off of their truck. They had to scrape up several yards of dirt and ship it cross country to a hazardous waste dump. That is the definition of insanity.

Now, you claim to be educated. Why did CA require that level of idiocy?

If they did that, they were just plain stupid. They could have simply neutralized the acidic soil with lime and disposed of it at a sanitary landfill for about $35 per cubic yard. All the landfill would need to know is if it is within the acceptable ranges for reactivity, corrosivity, and ignitability (RCI). If it was, they would have been good to go. RCI defines whether or not material is hazardous.

Well, it looks like you don't know all that much do you. All that was required was to pour water on it. What happens when you pour water on HCl?