Arctic sea ice hits a new low for January.

[Billy_Bob]

This mornings forecast discussion got into the falling arctic ice levels. Several of the scientists over at NSIDC were commenting on the pack ice (30% ice coverage of water) growth vs the edge ice (15% coverage of the water) which is what Old crock and others post here as evidence of CAGW.

One of the reasons the sea ice levels are going down is the winds are driving the ice into pack ice that is 10 meters deep. SO the ice loss is not happening and they are talking about how to correct for this.

The Danish Meteorological Institute (DMI) recently stopped posting their 30% ice coverage (pack ice) as they were having trouble explaining the difference to lay persons who didn't understand. The High winds this year in the arctic have driven the ice into pack ice resulting in a lower surface area coverage.

Pack Ice has increased in the Arctic by 11% this year alone.. Just using one graph to say the arctic is melting is not only disingenuous but a lie to boot.

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Here is the corrected 15% ice coverage graph from NSIDC



Even NCAR has updated their ice pack graphs..

Good reason to use volume rather than extents.

Note the change in trend lines..

One low year doesn not break a trend nor does it make one...

 

[Crick]

The blue line has a much longer trend than does your wee red scribble. Did the kids buy you a drawing program?

 

[Billy_Bob]

The blue line has a much longer trend than does your wee red scribble. Did the kids buy you a drawing program?

Ignore the change in trends at your own peril.. Finding something insignificant to bitch about seems to be your forte. I am using a clip/snip program so that I can store data, which also allows me to do limited drawing on the run, when I dont have too much time to spend on idiots..

I keep forgetting that your not interested in the facts, just finding some way to discredit and belittle those who disagree with you..

 

[Crick]

Explain what climatological change is driving the short term trend you've identified