Arctic GISS Temps

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    how representative are arctic temp stations? they are usually at airports and close to the only pockets of people up there. not only that but these temps are smeared over thousands of kilometres in the averaging schemes used by GISS.

    here is one station-
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    from the second half of this link- The North Atlantic heat is on | Watts Up With That?

    there are major problems taking temps in the middle of areas containing people in the arctic. then you add weird adjustments that drive down old readings by 1C and only correct for UGI by 0.05C (if it is considered urban enough for correction that is). then use those inflated readings to guestimate the temps for a 1000km in any direction.

    do we have a reliable satellite that covers the arctic and antarctic? because I'm having a hard time believing the GISS temps are accurate.

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    think prop wash could affect anything? nahhhh
     
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    And that prop wash is melting the Arctic Ice Cap, and the permafrost?

    DMI and GISS Arctic Temperatures: Hide the Increase?

    Thus the reality is that the annual average Arctic surface temperature as indicated by DMI has risen at rates around twice the global average over the past 50 years, which is entirely consistent with other Arctic data sets, including the data from GISS. This annual temperature anomaly trend (red) gives clearer context to the Lansner chart (green).
     
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    so if the DMI figures match up with the wonky GISS figures that pretty much suggests the the DMI figures are wonky as well. or are you thinking that the DMI figures are right and the GISS manipulated its figures to match up?
     
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    'Cmon Ian.....you know there cant be any "real" scientists at that station!!!:coffee:
     
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    Hey Ian.........check this shit out. Read the litany of BS predictions over the last 6 years by the IPCC........its a lundry list of FaIl. Hurricane predictions......ocean temp predictions........cyclonic activity.........glacier melting. None of this doomsday predictions came true.........so they hit the re-set button to cover their ass.

    Fcukking brilliant shit..........they know there are hordes of people out there who can be bamboozled in a heartbeat.............

    ANyway.........heres the link bro..........Hot Sensations Vs. Cold Facts - Larry Bell - The Bell Tells for You - Forbes
     
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    LOL Ian............after all the lame epic fail predictions made by the IPCC, now this one is the newest.............

    World temperatures will raise by 8 degrees in the next 9 years


    I shit you not..................Driving Straight Into Catastrophe | CommonDreams.org


    Assholes finally figured out they have to stretch their predictions out 10+ years to buy time for the wealth redistribution efforts to take root.
     
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    How interesting is this?????

    Here is a link to the National Snow and Ice Data Center..........funded of course by the US Governemnt. The link speaks to the question, "How do we know human activities cause climate change".

    Heres the link.............

    Arctic Sea Ice News & Analysis: Questions about Arctic sea ice


    But how compelling.........look who the Data Center uses for references...........



    •US Climate Change Science Program:
    Website moved!

    •NASA Earth Observatory, Global Warming Update:
    Global Warming : Feature Articles

    •Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), Climate Change:
    Climate Change | U.S. EPA

    •Pew Research Center
    Global Warming Basics | Pew Center on Global Climate Change: The Pew Center on Global Climate Change



    Of course, this would never raise the eyebrows of the hard care k00ks........but for those who dont have the political IQ of a handball, its all you have to know.:fu::fu::fu::fu::fu::fu:
     
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    outstanding link.
     
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    tell me again how GISS and satellite data are the same.

    check out this cool site for charting temps from all the main data centres. Wood for Trees: Interactive Graphs


    my apologies. I didnt add the offset for GISS. I think UAH is still considered zero but it has changed to 30 yeat trend.
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