Anyone else seen this? Obama declares national emergency.

Every time there is an 'emergency' by any government - it pays to look very closely at what else is going on.

"Now would be a great day to bury bad news" 2.55pm, 09 11 2001, Jo Moore, Ministers Aide, UK Labor Government.

Ah yes, those FEMA death camps... This is all planned in advance to lock up all those who disagree with Obama. Better stay across the pond, girl.
:eek:
What the hell are you going on about now? Do you ever think or even make any sense when you express those 'thoughts'?
 
Every time there is an 'emergency' by any government - it pays to look very closely at what else is going on.

"Now would be a great day to bury bad news" 2.55pm, 09 11 2001, Jo Moore, Ministers Aide, UK Labor Government.

Ah yes, those FEMA death camps... This is all planned in advance to lock up all those who disagree with Obama. Better stay across the pond, girl.
:eek:
What the hell are you going on about now? Do you ever think or even make any sense when you express those 'thoughts'?

:lol:
 
Every time there is an 'emergency' by any government - it pays to look very closely at what else is going on.

"Now would be a great day to bury bad news" 2.55pm, 09 11 2001, Jo Moore, Ministers Aide, UK Labor Government.

Ah yes, those FEMA death camps... This is all planned in advance to lock up all those who disagree with Obama. Better stay across the pond, girl.
:eek:
LOL! You gonna be there to turn her away when she returns?
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No one seems to be either able or willing to answer the simple question as to why the federal government has to act in order for the states and cities to take common sense pilliative actions in case of a pandemic.
 
I don't think this is a consipiracy per se, but rather an attempt by the O-boy to score a cheap and hollow political victory. By most accounts H1N1 isn't nearly as bad as originally feared. So now when it turns out not to be a big pandemic, he's going to claim credit.
Yep. Remember the "BirdFlu" that happened during Bush? How'd that turn out? ;)

Oh I don't know, Rumsfeld made 1 million off the purchase of the Tamiflu shots, being a shareholder of Gilead Sciences who owns the rights to Tamiflu.

Defense Secretary Rumsfeld sees growth in Gilead stake - Oct. 31, 2005

Rumsfeld served as Gilead (Research)'s chairman from 1997 until he joined the Bush administration in 2001, and he still holds a Gilead stake valued at between $5 million and $25 million, according to federal financial disclosures filed by Rumsfeld.

The forms don't reveal the exact number of shares Rumsfeld owns, but in the past six months fears of a pandemic and the ensuing scramble for Tamiflu have sent Gilead's stock from $35 to $47. That's made the Pentagon chief, already one of the wealthiest members of the Bush cabinet, at least $1 million richer.
 
No one seems to be either able or willing to answer the simple question as to why the federal government has to act in order for the states and cities to take common sense pilliative actions in case of a pandemic.

I don't see this as really different from the federal government stepping in and helping in cases of fires or floods, or tornadoes. When something affects a great many people within a state, the federal government comes in to help.

In this case the federal government, through various agencies can coordinate a larger effort to contain the problem before too many people are affected. I had listed a few things earlier in this thread that they would do, one big one is allowing physicians to use a drug before its release to help swine flu patients when nothing else has helped.

I suppose in any parent's mind, just one child's death from this disease is too many, and we have had far too many so far. I don't see waiting until it's in the 10's of 1,000's of deaths.
 
I had listed a few things earlier in this thread that they would do, one big one is allowing physicians to use a drug before its release to help swine flu patients when nothing else has helped.

I suppose in any parent's mind, just one child's death from this disease is too many, and we have had far too many so far. I don't see waiting until it's in the 10's of 1,000's of deaths.



I don't think it includes approval of a new drug before it's release. :confused:




Update on Antiviral Availability

At this time, CDC discussions with the antiviral supply chain (manufacturers, distributors and retailers) indicate that supplies of adult formulation (75 mg) oseltamivir (Tamiflu®) and zanamivir (Relenza®) are meeting current demand for this product. However, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and Roche (maker of Tamiflu®) have acknowledged that commercial and stockpiled supplies of Tamiflu® oral suspension are limited.

Pharmacies should be aware of the importance of providing patients with these influenza medications as quickly as possible when they are prescribed. Both Tamiflu® and Relenza® work best when administered within 48 hours of onset of symptoms. Having product at the pharmacy store level, including doses of oseltamivir and zanamivir and supplies to compound Tamiflu® if necessary, will be critical to ensuring that patients needing treatment receive it as quickly as possible.

Alternatives to Tamiflu® Oral Suspension for Pediatric Patients

FDA has a statement on their website (Influenza (Flu) Antiviral Drugs and Related Information) reminding health care providers and pharmacists of the FDA-approved instructions for the emergency compounding of an oral suspension from Tamiflu® 75mg capsules as described in the FDA approved manufacturer package insert for oseltamivir (Tamiflu ®). Compounding an oral suspension from Tamiflu® 75mg capsules provides an alternative when commercially manufactured oral suspension formulation is not readily available. Tamiflu® capsules 75 mg may be compounded using either of two vehicles: Cherry Syrup (Humco®) or Ora-Sweet® SF (sugar-free) (Paddock Laboratories). Other supplies needed to compound include mortar and pestle and amber glass or amber polyethyleneterephthalate (PET) bottle.

In addition, for children who may not be able to swallow capsules, Tamiflu® capsules may be opened and mixed with sweetened liquids, such as regular or sugar-free chocolate syrup, if oral suspension is not available.

Note on Tamiflu Oral Suspension Syringe

Pharmacists with access to Tamiflu® oral suspension should be aware that an oral dosing dispenser with 30 mg, 45 mg, and 60 mg graduations is provided in the packaging for the manufacturer’s product rather than graduations in milliliters (mL) or teaspoons (tsp). There have been cases where the units of measure on the prescription dosing instructions (mL, tsp) do not match the units on the dosing device (mg), which can lead to patient or caregiver confusion and dosing errors. When dispensing commercially manufactured Tamiflu® oral suspension, pharmacists should ensure the units of measure on the dosing instructions match the dosing device provided. If dosing instructions specify administration using mL or tsp the device included in the Tamiflu® product package should be removed and replaced with an appropriate measuring device. When dispensing Tamiflu® oral suspension for children younger than 1 year of age, the oral dosing dispenser that is included in the product package should always be removed and replaced with an appropriate measuring device. (The Food and Drug Administration has issued an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) for the use of Tamiflu in pediatric patients younger than 1 year of age.)

CDC will provide additional information and updates as needed.

http://www.cdc.gov/H1N1flu/pharmacist/pharmacist_info.htm
 
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I had listed a few things earlier in this thread that they would do, one big one is allowing physicians to use a drug before its release to help swine flu patients when nothing else has helped.

I suppose in any parent's mind, just one child's death from this disease is too many, and we have had far too many so far. I don't see waiting until it's in the 10's of 1,000's of deaths.



I don't think it includes approval of a new drug before it's release. :confused:




Update on Antiviral Availability

At this time, CDC discussions with the antiviral supply chain (manufacturers, distributors and retailers) indicate that supplies of adult formulation (75 mg) oseltamivir (Tamiflu®) and zanamivir (Relenza®) are meeting current demand for this product. However, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and Roche (maker of Tamiflu®) have acknowledged that commercial and stockpiled supplies of Tamiflu® oral suspension are limited.

Pharmacies should be aware of the importance of providing patients with these influenza medications as quickly as possible when they are prescribed. Both Tamiflu® and Relenza® work best when administered within 48 hours of onset of symptoms. Having product at the pharmacy store level, including doses of oseltamivir and zanamivir and supplies to compound Tamiflu® if necessary, will be critical to ensuring that patients needing treatment receive it as quickly as possible.

Alternatives to Tamiflu® Oral Suspension for Pediatric Patients

FDA has a statement on their website (Influenza (Flu) Antiviral Drugs and Related Information) reminding health care providers and pharmacists of the FDA-approved instructions for the emergency compounding of an oral suspension from Tamiflu® 75mg capsules as described in the FDA approved manufacturer package insert for oseltamivir (Tamiflu ®). Compounding an oral suspension from Tamiflu® 75mg capsules provides an alternative when commercially manufactured oral suspension formulation is not readily available. Tamiflu® capsules 75 mg may be compounded using either of two vehicles: Cherry Syrup (Humco®) or Ora-Sweet® SF (sugar-free) (Paddock Laboratories). Other supplies needed to compound include mortar and pestle and amber glass or amber polyethyleneterephthalate (PET) bottle.

In addition, for children who may not be able to swallow capsules, Tamiflu® capsules may be opened and mixed with sweetened liquids, such as regular or sugar-free chocolate syrup, if oral suspension is not available.

Note on Tamiflu Oral Suspension Syringe

Pharmacists with access to Tamiflu® oral suspension should be aware that an oral dosing dispenser with 30 mg, 45 mg, and 60 mg graduations is provided in the packaging for the manufacturer’s product rather than graduations in milliliters (mL) or teaspoons (tsp). There have been cases where the units of measure on the prescription dosing instructions (mL, tsp) do not match the units on the dosing device (mg), which can lead to patient or caregiver confusion and dosing errors. When dispensing commercially manufactured Tamiflu® oral suspension, pharmacists should ensure the units of measure on the dosing instructions match the dosing device provided. If dosing instructions specify administration using mL or tsp the device included in the Tamiflu® product package should be removed and replaced with an appropriate measuring device. When dispensing Tamiflu® oral suspension for children younger than 1 year of age, the oral dosing dispenser that is included in the product package should always be removed and replaced with an appropriate measuring device. (The Food and Drug Administration has issued an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) for the use of Tamiflu in pediatric patients younger than 1 year of age.)

CDC will provide additional information and updates as needed.

CDC H1N1 Flu | 2009-2010 Influenza Season: Information for Pharmacists

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I don't think this is a consipiracy per se, but rather an attempt by the O-boy to score a cheap and hollow political victory. By most accounts H1N1 isn't nearly as bad as originally feared. So now when it turns out not to be a big pandemic, he's going to claim credit.
Yep. Remember the "BirdFlu" that happened during Bush? How'd that turn out? ;)

Oh I don't know, Rumsfeld made 1 million off the purchase of the Tamiflu shots, being a shareholder of Gilead Sciences who owns the rights to Tamiflu.

Defense Secretary Rumsfeld sees growth in Gilead stake - Oct. 31, 2005

Rumsfeld served as Gilead (Research)'s chairman from 1997 until he joined the Bush administration in 2001, and he still holds a Gilead stake valued at between $5 million and $25 million, according to federal financial disclosures filed by Rumsfeld.

The forms don't reveal the exact number of shares Rumsfeld owns, but in the past six months fears of a pandemic and the ensuing scramble for Tamiflu have sent Gilead's stock from $35 to $47. That's made the Pentagon chief, already one of the wealthiest members of the Bush cabinet, at least $1 million richer.

I see. So another attack against an entrepenuer...In this case Rumsfeld.

And so the Hell what?

What are YOU trying to impart here?
 
No one seems to be either able or willing to answer the simple question as to why the federal government has to act in order for the states and cities to take common sense pilliative actions in case of a pandemic.

I don't see this as really different from the federal government stepping in and helping in cases of fires or floods, or tornadoes. When something affects a great many people within a state, the federal government comes in to help.

In this case the federal government, through various agencies can coordinate a larger effort to contain the problem before too many people are affected. I had listed a few things earlier in this thread that they would do, one big one is allowing physicians to use a drug before its release to help swine flu patients when nothing else has helped.

I suppose in any parent's mind, just one child's death from this disease is too many, and we have had far too many so far. I don't see waiting until it's in the 10's of 1,000's of deaths.

From the progression of your post, I'm not certain if you're referring to actual parents, or equating the federal goverment to behaving as our parent.
 
I see. So another attack against an entrepenuer...In this case Rumsfeld.

And so the Hell what?

What are YOU trying to impart here?

I am certainly not one to attack an entrepreneur, I'm a free market capitalist. There's plenty of my posts around here to substantiate that, as well as posters.

I was merely responding to your question of "How'd that turn out?"

Well, it turned out to be NOTHING, except a person in a conflict of interest profiting from the scare.

By the way, there seems to be some mis understanding about Tamiflu in here...

Roche did not "make" Tamiflu.

A company called Gilead Sciences CREATED it, and licensed it to Roche in 1996.

Both companies ended a prior dispute and have decided to collaborate on it instead.

Press Releases: Gilead

Tamiflu, the only oral antiviral for the treatment and prevention of influenza A and B, was invented by Gilead and licensed to Roche in 1996.
 
I see. So another attack against an entrepenuer...In this case Rumsfeld.

And so the Hell what?

What are YOU trying to impart here?

You think Paulie is attacking the free market? Wow, you are a bigger dumbass then I thought. Congratulations! :rofl:
 
Obama declares swine flu a national emergency - Yahoo! News

By PHILIP ELLIOTT, Associated Press Writer – 24 mins ago
WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama declared the swine flu outbreak a national emergency and empowered his health secretary to suspend federal requirements and speed treatment for thousands of infected people.
The declaration that Obama signed late Friday authorized Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius to bypass federal rules so health officials can respond more quickly to the outbreak, which has killed more than 1,000 people in the United States.

That explains HC debate behind the closed doors.
 
I see. So another attack against an entrepenuer...In this case Rumsfeld.

And so the Hell what?

What are YOU trying to impart here?

You think Paulie is attacking the free market? Wow, you are a bigger dumbass then I thought. Congratulations! :rofl:

Of course I am, I mentioned a person that was in the Bush admin in a negative light. Obviously I'm automatically a far left loon. :rolleyes:
 
Of course I am, I mentioned a person that was in the Bush admin in a negative light. Obviously I'm automatically a far left loon. :rolleyes:

Yes you are. Did you get your statue of the Messiah in the mail? It should of arrived by now.

$Obama_Jesus_Matthews_Olberm.jpg

Remember, face it with it's back to the White House and to worship five times daily!
 
Ame®icano;1649583 said:
Obama declares swine flu a national emergency - Yahoo! News

By PHILIP ELLIOTT, Associated Press Writer – 24 mins ago
WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama declared the swine flu outbreak a national emergency and empowered his health secretary to suspend federal requirements and speed treatment for thousands of infected people.
The declaration that Obama signed late Friday authorized Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius to bypass federal rules so health officials can respond more quickly to the outbreak, which has killed more than 1,000 people in the United States.

That explains HC debate behind the closed doors.

And yet they accuse Republicans of 'Obstruction' and wanting people to 'DIE' when Republicans don't have the votes to stop it.

How vaccuous is this really?
 
I see. So another attack against an entrepenuer...In this case Rumsfeld.

And so the Hell what?

What are YOU trying to impart here?

I am certainly not one to attack an entrepreneur, I'm a free market capitalist. There's plenty of my posts around here to substantiate that, as well as posters.

I was merely responding to your question of "How'd that turn out?"

Well, it turned out to be NOTHING, except a person in a conflict of interest profiting from the scare.

By the way, there seems to be some mis understanding about Tamiflu in here...

Roche did not "make" Tamiflu.

A company called Gilead Sciences CREATED it, and licensed it to Roche in 1996.

Both companies ended a prior dispute and have decided to collaborate on it instead.

Press Releases: Gilead

Tamiflu, the only oral antiviral for the treatment and prevention of influenza A and B, was invented by Gilead and licensed to Roche in 1996.

Fair enough...but it wasn't pertinent to this discussion but rather seemed to be an attack upon Rumsfeld. Just sayin'. Isn't germain to the present.
 

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