Anyone else seen this? Obama declares national emergency.

[The T]

Apparently this allows cities and towns to open up temporary "hospitals" in schools or public buildings if the hospitals become overcrowded.

More importantly, it allows the use of an experimental drug to be used on patients who are not responding to conventional treatments.

Since there seems to be a problem in getting a preventive vaccine out to everyone, these measures seem prudent.

They may be prudent...but if it were the case? May I take the oppritunity to ask something here?

What's up with this?

Sebelius Says U.S. Will Donate Part of H1N1 Vaccine Supply to Foreign Nations Before Meeting This Nation’s Demand <LINK

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(CNSNews.com) – Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius told CNSNews.com Wednesday that one in 10 doses of the swine-flu vaccine purchased by the U.S. will be donated to other nations before the U.S. demand for the vaccine is filled.

Sebelius also told a Senate committee that vaccine production is well behind demand.

“What we said is once we have 40 million doses (of the vaccine), the donation can start,” Sebelius told CNSNews.com. “There’s an agreement (of) 10 percent donation that 11 nations have made,” she said.

HHS has ordered about 250 million doses of the vaccine, so the donation would begin after the U.S. received just 16 percent of its original order.

Sebelius made the remarks at a Senate Homeland Security Committee hearing on the government's preparations for dealing with the H1N1 flu virus outbreak. Education Secretary Arne Duncan and Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano also provided testimony at the hearing.

The nation’s top health bureaucrat said the government would still donate to foreign nations part of the stock of vaccine purchased by the U.S. government despite delays in getting the vaccine to American citizens, which she said puts the nation “at the point where demand is ahead of the yield.”

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So? If this is such an emergency? What is our government doing here?

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Anyone??

 

[judyd]

I don't think it a conspiricy just the usual Obama over reaction. He does that a lot. Dude jumps at more shadows than any president I've ever seen. Oh and the fact that you have to do something like this before the states and cities can take common sense approaches to clear problems just goes to demonstrate why the federal government needs to shrink dramatically.

I don't see this as any different than the government's response to the polio epidemic in the US, which was also mainly attacking children. They spent a lot of time and money in an effort to eradicate the disease and move the Salk vaccine to the public as quickly as possible, vaccinating children in the schools.

 

[garyd]

Screwing the pooch as usual.

 

[garyd]

We haven't done it for the regular flu, AIDs, or cancer all of which have killed far more people than H1n1 Judy and have far higher higher mortality rates than does H1N1so what is the point? It's form over substance BS that's the point for the left of Obama's stripe it is far more important to look as if you actually care than to actually do the right thing, hence they jump at shadows and it's all about appearances.

 

[judyd]

Apparently this allows cities and towns to open up temporary "hospitals" in schools or public buildings if the hospitals become overcrowded.

More importantly, it allows the use of an experimental drug to be used on patients who are not responding to conventional treatments.

Since there seems to be a problem in getting a preventive vaccine out to everyone, these measures seem prudent.

They may be prudent...but if it were the case? May I take the oppritunity to ask something here?

What's up with this?

Sebelius Says U.S. Will Donate Part of H1N1 Vaccine Supply to Foreign Nations Before Meeting This Nation’s Demand <LINK

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(CNSNews.com) – Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius told CNSNews.com Wednesday that one in 10 doses of the swine-flu vaccine purchased by the U.S. will be donated to other nations before the U.S. demand for the vaccine is filled.

Sebelius also told a Senate committee that vaccine production is well behind demand.

“What we said is once we have 40 million doses (of the vaccine), the donation can start,” Sebelius told CNSNews.com. “There’s an agreement (of) 10 percent donation that 11 nations have made,” she said.

HHS has ordered about 250 million doses of the vaccine, so the donation would begin after the U.S. received just 16 percent of its original order.

Sebelius made the remarks at a Senate Homeland Security Committee hearing on the government's preparations for dealing with the H1N1 flu virus outbreak. Education Secretary Arne Duncan and Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano also provided testimony at the hearing.

The nation’s top health bureaucrat said the government would still donate to foreign nations part of the stock of vaccine purchased by the U.S. government despite delays in getting the vaccine to American citizens, which she said puts the nation “at the point where demand is ahead of the yield.”

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So? If this is such an emergency? What is our government doing here?

_____________________

Anyone??

I don't have a clue--perhaps you should ask your congressman?

 

[The T]

Screwing the pooch as usual.

Yep. And all for their benefit. But I wanna know why our government is shipping out vaccine to other places outside the U.S. when demand outweighs supply?

Why the proclaimed 'Emergency'?

 

[judyd]

We haven't done it for the regular flu, AIDs, or cancer all of which have killed far more people than H1n1 Judy and have far higher higher mortality rates than does H1N1so what is the point? It's form over substance BS that's the point for the left of Obama's stripe it is far more important to look as if you actually care than to actually do the right thing, hence they jump at shadows and it's all about appearances.

There are some diseases that seem to have become such big business--especially diabetes and cancer--it sometimes seems that no one is really that adament about finding a "cure". Diabetes has magazines, foods, special testing equipment, fund drives, bringing in millions upon millions--but a cure? No. The same seems to hold true for cancer. Look at all the corporate entities supposedly giving "to the cure", as part of their advertising. Look at all of the pink telephones, computers, etc.--for the cure. I am really becoming jaded by the whole scene. A lot of people are making a lot of money looking for "the cure."

I don't see a flu epidemic being handled in the same manner at all.

 

[The T]

Apparently this allows cities and towns to open up temporary "hospitals" in schools or public buildings if the hospitals become overcrowded.

More importantly, it allows the use of an experimental drug to be used on patients who are not responding to conventional treatments.

Since there seems to be a problem in getting a preventive vaccine out to everyone, these measures seem prudent.

They may be prudent...but if it were the case? May I take the oppritunity to ask something here?

What's up with this?

Sebelius Says U.S. Will Donate Part of H1N1 Vaccine Supply to Foreign Nations Before Meeting This Nation’s Demand <LINK

___________________

(CNSNews.com) – Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius told CNSNews.com Wednesday that one in 10 doses of the swine-flu vaccine purchased by the U.S. will be donated to other nations before the U.S. demand for the vaccine is filled.

Sebelius also told a Senate committee that vaccine production is well behind demand.

“What we said is once we have 40 million doses (of the vaccine), the donation can start,” Sebelius told CNSNews.com. “There’s an agreement (of) 10 percent donation that 11 nations have made,” she said.

HHS has ordered about 250 million doses of the vaccine, so the donation would begin after the U.S. received just 16 percent of its original order.

Sebelius made the remarks at a Senate Homeland Security Committee hearing on the government's preparations for dealing with the H1N1 flu virus outbreak. Education Secretary Arne Duncan and Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano also provided testimony at the hearing.

The nation’s top health bureaucrat said the government would still donate to foreign nations part of the stock of vaccine purchased by the U.S. government despite delays in getting the vaccine to American citizens, which she said puts the nation “at the point where demand is ahead of the yield.”

___________________

So? If this is such an emergency? What is our government doing here?

_____________________

Anyone??

I don't have a clue--perhaps you should ask your congressman?

Indeed.

 

[garyd]

As I said earlier "T" it's a form over substance exercise akin to Clinton's oft stated I feel your pain throw away line. It makes it look like he actually gives a damn and that to people on the left is all that matters.

And as I said earlier some one want to tell me why the feds have to do something in order for the cities to make common sense decisions regarding a situation that becomes critical? that strikes me as amajor problem waiting to happen in and of itself...

 

[The T]

As I said earlier "T" it's a form over substance exercise akin to Clinton's oft stated I feel your pain throw away line. It makes it look like he actually gives a damn and that to people on the left is all that matters.

And as I said earlier some one want to tell me why the feds have to do something in order for the cities to make common sense decisions regarding a situation that becomes critical? that strikes me as amajor problem waiting to happen in and of itself...

Agreed. And just like every other manufactured 'Emergency' to further their power over the people.

 

[garyd]

Hell I don't think this one even has that rationale going for it. This is just the usual leftist ill thought out response to any situation that they don't really want to be bothered with but feel like they need to do something lest someone somwhere think them the hearltess souless clods they really are.

 

[Valerie]

Declaration of a National Emergency is a legal formality used as a mechanism to release resources to the public IN CASE of an emergency.

The president is just preparing, not panicking.

The president signed the declaration late Friday and announced it Saturday.

Calling the emergency declaration "an important tool in our kit going forward," one administration official called Obama's action a "proactive measure that's not in response to any new development."

Another administration official said the move is "not tied to the current case count" and "gives the federal government more power to help states" by lifting bureaucratic requirements -- both in treating patients and moving equipment to where it's most needed.
Obama declares H1N1 emergency - CNN.com

Situation Update

Map of flu activity in the U.S. for week ending October 10, 2009. Click to view the full Situation Update.During the week of October 11-17, 2009, influenza activity continued to increase in the United States as reported in FluView. Flu activity is now widespread in 46 states. Nationwide, visits to doctors for influenza-like-illness are increasing steeply and are now higher than what is seen at the peak of many regular flu seasons. In addition, flu-related hospitalizations and deaths continue to go up nation-wide and are above what is expected for this time of year.
See More On Key Flu Indicators >> http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/

2009 H1N1 Influenza Vaccine Supply Status

October 23, 2009, 12:00 PM ET
Aggregate Totals
Posted October 23, 2009, 12:00 PM ET Doses Allocated as of 10/21/09* 14,070,900
Doses Ordered as of 10/21/09 12,533,700
Doses Shipped as of 10/21/09** 11,282,200

*Doses allocated to project areas for ordering are those that are at the distribution depots and ready for project areas to order.
Vaccine is allocated to each project area in proportion to its population (pro rata).

**There is a lag time between allocation, ordering, and shipment of doses as project areas place orders and those orders are processed and shipped.

***Project areas reflect CDC Public Health Emergency Response (PHER) Grantees.

When and how much of the 2009 H1N1 vaccine will be available?

Both the flu shot (in the arm) and nasal spray form of 2009 H1N1 vaccines have now been produced and licensed by the Food and Drug Administration. The federal government has purchased a total of 250 million doses of 2009 H1N1 vaccine. 2009 H1N1 vaccine was available starting early October and approximately 29 million doses of licensed vaccine may be available by the end of October. Vaccine availability, however, depends on many factors so these numbers will be frequently updated. The first doses of live attenuated 2009 H1N1 flu vaccine were administered on October 5, 2009. Administration of the 2009 H1N1 flu shot will begin the week of October 12.

Will there be enough 2009 H1N1 flu vaccine for everyone who wants it?

It is expected that there will be enough 2009 H1N1 flu vaccine for anyone who chooses to get vaccinated. The US federal government has procured 250 million doses of 2009 H1N1 flu vaccine. This quantity of vaccine accounts for the National Institutes of Health (NIH) clinical trial data showing that children 6 months to 9 years of age will need two doses and persons 10 and older will need one dose. Limited amounts of 2009 H1N1 vaccine became available in early October, and more will continue to become available over the upcoming weeks.
Where will the vaccine be available?

Every state is developing a vaccine delivery plan. Vaccine will be available in a combination of settings such as vaccination clinics organized by local health departments, healthcare provider offices, schools, and other private settings, such as pharmacies and workplaces. For more information, see State/Jurisdiction Contact Information for Health Care Providers Interested in Providing H1N1 Vaccine.

CDC H1N1 Flu | Questions & Answers Novel H1N1 Influenza Vaccine

Vaccine Shipment Status
by Project Area
Posted October 23, 2009, 12:00 PM ET
Project Areas*** Total Doses Shipped
as of 10/21/09**

Alabama 162,700
Alaska 31,600
American Samoa 0
Arizona 263,300
Arkansas 121,000
California 1,309,100
Chicago 158,700
Colorado 159,700
Connecticut 128,100
Delaware 15,700
District of Columbia 33,900
Federal Worker Program* 64,400
Florida 503,200
Georgia 353,000
Guam 9,500
Hawaii 58,200
Idaho 73,700
Illinois 507,800
Indiana 273,200
Iowa 135,000
Kansas 90,600
Kentucky 138,600
Louisiana 187,900
Maine 51,600
Marshall Islands 0
Maryland 229,800
Massachusetts 269,700
Michigan 308,300
Micronesia 5,100
Minnesota 117,100
Mississippi 73,800
Missouri 174,400
Montana 38,900
Nebraska 62,100
Nevada 103,900
New Hampshire 51,800
New Jersey 234,500
New Mexico 79,100
New York 311,700
New York City 417,400
North Carolina 321,900
North Dakota 30,900
Northern Mariana Islands 2,400
Ohio 434,500
Oklahoma 130,700
Oregon 144,000
Pennsylvania 471,500
Philadelphia 62,400
Puerto Rico 42,900
Republic of Palau 1,300
Rhode Island 18,700
South Carolina 158,700
South Dakota 39,900
Tennessee 241,100
Texas 831,400
Utah 110,200
Vermont 34,200
Virgin Islands 3,000
Virginia 315,700
Washington 227,500
West Virginia 89,600
Wisconsin 237,600
Wyoming 24,000
*For more information, please visit: Immunization of Federal Workers with 2009 H1N1 and Seasonal Flu Vaccines

 

[The T]

Hell I don't think this one even has that rationale going for it. This is just the usual leftist ill thought out response to any situation that they don't really want to be bothered with but feel like they need to do something lest someone somwhere think them the hearltess souless clods they reall are.

It all goes to timing as the OP pointed out with the Debate on Healthcare.

But now I'm sure you, me, and many others that have participated in this thread slamming his Majesty, Obama...have larger targets painted now on our backs.

 

[manifold]

Is there a difference between declaring a national emergency versus declaring a state of emergency?

 

[The T]

Is there a difference between declaring a national emergency versus declaring a state of emergency?

Does it matter to the Statist Obama? But you make an excellent arguement. There is a defining definition to be had. But then it depends upon how it is used...especially in the context Obama appears to be using it, and his 'Crusade' to take over 1/7thof the U.S. Ecomomy for nefarious purposes.

 

[MaggieMae]

And yet every year over 36000 are killed by the flu. How exactly is 1000 deaths an emergency?

Where is Eots and Terrel to claim we are all going to the FEMA camps?

And yet if Obama had waited until hospitals were full and then declared a national emergency, you clowns would be screaming WHY'D HE WAIT SO LONG?!

Isn't it time for your kool-aid injection?

And of course your silly comment has zero to do with the topic. So typical of an ignorant con.

Mmmm, Kool-Aid must be good.

 

[Valerie]

2009 Federal Disaster Declarations

* Declared Disasters by Year or State

* Major Disaster Declarations
* Emergency Declarations
* Fire Management Assistance Declarations

* Declaration Policies and Guidance
* Declaration Process Fact Sheet for Media


Disaster Search FEMA: 2009 Federal Disaster Declarations

Major Disaster Declarations

Number Date State Title Designated Counties
1860 09/30 Kansas Severe Storms and Flooding Link to 1860 Declared Counties page
1859 09/29 American Samoa Earthquake, Tsunami, and Flooding Link to 1859 Declared Counties page
1858 09/24 Georgia Severe Storms and Flooding Link to 1858 Declared Counties page
1857 09/01 New York Severe Storms and Flooding Link to 1857 Declared Counties page
1856 08/21 Tennessee Severe Storms and Flooding Link to 1856 Declared Counties page
1855 08/14 Kentucky Severe Storms, Straight-line Winds, and Flooding Link to 1855 Declared Counties page
1854 08/13 Iowa Severe Storm Link to 1854 Declared Counties page
1853 07/31 Nebraska Severe Storms, Tornadoes, and Flooding Link to 1853 Declared Counties page
1852 07/30 Maine Severe Storms, Flooding, and Landslides Link to 1852 Declared Counties page
1851 07/13 Tennessee Severe Storms, Tornadoes, Straight-Line Winds, and Flooding Link to 1851 Declared Counties page
1850 07/02 Illinois Severe Storms, Flooding, and Tornadoes Link to 1850 Declared Counties page
1849 06/25 Kansas Severe Storms, Flooding, Straight-line Winds, and Tornadoes Link to 1849 Declared Counties page
1848 06/24 Kansas Severe Winter Storm and Record and Near Record Snow Link to 1848 Declared Counties page
1847 06/19 Missouri Severe Storms, Tornadoes, and Flooding Link to 1847 Declared Counties page
1846 06/19 Oklahoma Wildfires Link to 1846 Declared Counties page
1845 06/16 Arkansas Severe Storms, Tornadoes, and Flooding Link to 1845 Declared Counties page
1844 06/16 South Dakota Severe Storms and Flooding Link to 1844 Declared Counties page
1843 06/11 Alaska Flooding and Ice Jams Link to 1843 Declared Counties page
1842 06/03 Alabama Severe Storms, Tornadoes, Flooding, and Straight-line Winds Link to 1842 Declared Counties page
1841 05/29 Kentucky Severe Storms, Tornadoes, Flooding, and Mudslides Link to 1841 Declared Counties page
1840 05/27 Florida Severe Storms, Flooding, Tornadoes, and Straight-line Winds Link to 1840 Declared Counties page
1839 05/15 Tennessee Severe Storms, Tornadoes, and Flooding Link to 1839 Declared Counties page
1838 05/15 West Virginia Severe Storms, Flooding, Mudslides, and Landslides Link to 1838 Declared Counties page
1837 05/12 Mississippi Severe Storms, Flooding, and Tornadoes Link to 1837 Declared Counties page
1836 05/08 Alabama Severe Storms, Flooding, Tornadoes, and Straight-line Winds Link to 1836 Declared Counties page
1835 04/28 Alabama Severe Storms, Flooding, Tornadoes, and Straight-line Winds Link to 1835 Declared Counties page
1834 04/27 Arkansas Severe Storms and Tornadoes Link to 1834 Declared Counties page
1833 04/23 Georgia Severe Storms, Flooding, Tornadoes, and Straight-line Winds Link to 1833 Declared Counties page
1832 04/22 Indiana Severe Storms, Tornadoes, and Flooding Link to 1832 Declared Counties page
1831 04/21 Florida Severe Storms, Flooding, Tornadoes, and Straight-line Winds Link to 1831 Declared Counties page
1830 04/09 Minnesota Severe Storms and Flooding Link to 1830 Declared Counties page
1829 03/24 North Dakota Severe Storms and Flooding Link to 1829 Declared Counties page
1828 03/05 Indiana Severe Winter Storm Link to 1828 Declared Counties page
1827 03/04 New York Severe Winter Storm Link to 1827 Declared Counties page
1826 03/02 Illinois Severe Winter Storm Link to 1826 Declared Counties page
1825 03/02 Washington Severe Winter Storm and Record and Near Record Snow Link to 1825 Declared Counties page
1824 03/02 Oregon Severe Winter Storm, Record and Near Record Snow, Landslides, and Mudslides Link to 1824 Declared Counties page
1823 02/17 Oklahoma Severe Winter Storm Link to 1823 Declared Counties page
1822 02/17 Missouri Severe Winter Storm Link to 1822 Declared Counties page
1821 02/17 Tennessee Severe Winter Storms and Flooding Link to 1821 Declared Counties page
1820 02/15 Oklahoma Severe Storms and Tornadoes Link to 1820 Declared Counties page
1819 02/06 Arkansas Severe Winter Storm Link to 1819 Declared Counties page
1818 02/05 Kentucky Severe Winter Storm and Flooding Link to 1818 Declared Counties page
1817 01/30 Washington Severe Winter Storm, Landslides, Mudslides, and Flooding Link to 1817 Declared Counties page
1816 01/14 Vermont Severe Winter Storm Link to 1816 Declared Counties page
1815 01/09 Maine Severe Winter Storm and Flooding Link to 1815 Declared Counties page
1814 01/05 Hawaii Severe Storms and Flooding Link to 1814 Declared Counties page
1813 01/05 Massachusetts Severe Winter Storm and Flooding Link to 1813 Declared Counties page
1812 01/02 New Hampshire Severe Winter Storm Link to 1812 Declared Counties page


Emergency Declarations

Number Date State Title Designated Counties
3306 10/24 Puerto Rico Explosions and Fire Link to 3306 Declared Counties page
3305 06/23 Oklahoma Snow Link to 3305 Declared Counties page
3304 03/26 Minnesota Severe Storms and Flooding Link to 3304 Declared Counties page
3303 01/30 Missouri Severe Winter Storm Link to 3303 Declared Counties page
3302 01/28 Kentucky Severe Winter Storm Link to 3302 Declared Counties page
3301 01/28 Arkansas Severe Winter Storm Link to 3301 Declared Counties page
3300 01/13 District of Columbia 56th Presidential Inauguration Link to 3300 Declared Counties page


Fire Management Assistance Declarations

Number Date State Incident
2841 10/04 California Sheep Fire
2840 10/03 Arizona Twin Fire
2839 09/22 California Guiberson Fire
2838 09/22 Oregon South County Fire Complex
2837 09/04 Montana Eagle Mount Fire
2836 09/01 California Pendleton Fire
2835 08/31 Arizona Water Wheel Fire
2834 08/31 Hawaii Kaunakakai Fire
2833 08/31 California Oak Glen Fire
2832 08/31 California 49er Fire
2831 08/30 Utah Mill Flat Fire
2830 08/28 California Station Fire
2829 08/28 Oregon Microwave Fire
2828 08/28 California PV Fire
2827 08/22 Washington Dry Creek Fire Complex
2826 08/22 Washington Oden Road Fire
2825 08/15 California Yuba Fire
2824 08/13 California Lockheed Fire
2823 07/29 Washington Union Valley Fire
2822 07/17 Nevada Red Rock Fire
2821 05/18 Arizona Mule Pass Fire
2820 05/14 Alaska Mile 17 East End Road Fire
2819 05/12 Florida Martin County Fire Complex
2818 05/07 New Mexico Buckwood Fire
2817 05/06 California Jesusita Fire
2816 04/23 South Carolina Highway 31 Fire
2815 04/10 Texas 617 Fire
2814 04/10 Texas 1148 Fire
2813 04/10 Oklahoma Mulhull Fire
2812 04/10 Oklahoma Velma Fire
2811 04/10 Oklahoma Healdton Carter County Fire
2810 04/10 Texas Breckenridge Fire
2809 04/10 Oklahoma McClain Fire
2808 04/10 Oklahoma Midwest Choctaw Fire
2807 04/10 Texas Cement Mountain Fire
2806 04/10 Texas Montague Fire Complex
2805 04/10 Texas Electra West Fire
2804 04/07 Texas Steel Fire
2803 04/05 Texas Holiday Beach Fire
2802 04/04 Texas Magic City Fire
2801 04/03 Texas Lagarto Fire
2800 03/20 Texas Greenwood Fire
2799 03/05 Oklahoma Taloga Fire
2798 03/05 Texas Tuscola Fire
2797 03/03 Texas Loma Del Norte Fire
2796 02/28 Texas Wilderness Ridge Fire
2795 02/27 Texas Rhodes Ranch Fire
2794 02/25 Texas Clyde Fire
2793 01/07 Colorado Olde Stage Fire

Federal Emergency Management Agency

 

[MaggieMae]

And yet every year over 36000 are killed by the flu. How exactly is 1000 deaths an emergency?

Where is Eots and Terrel to claim we are all going to the FEMA camps?

And yet if Obama had waited until hospitals were full and then declared a national emergency, you clowns would be screaming WHY'D HE WAIT SO LONG?!

I see how you avoided the relevant point of the thread and instead simply criticized other posters...

not that there's anything wrong with that.

However, care to take a stand on whether you agree or disagree with declaring this a national emergency at this point?

I disagree with O-boy completely on this one.

I think it's high time leadership in the country became PROactive instead of REactive. How is getting all the ducks in a row in case of a pandemic worse than running around like keystone kops after it landed on us with a thud?

 

[Ravi]

Is there a difference between declaring a national emergency versus declaring a state of emergency?

No, not from a federal standpoint.

 

[MaggieMae]

Every time there is an 'emergency' by any government - it pays to look very closely at what else is going on.

"Now would be a great day to bury bad news" 2.55pm, 09 11 2001, Jo Moore, Ministers Aide, UK Labor Government.

Ah yes, those FEMA death camps... This is all planned in advance to lock up all those who disagree with Obama. Better stay across the pond, girl.