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Does the OP then believe that over the past 20 years the US should have intervened in the Congo, in the Sudan, and in Rwanda,
at great cost and loss of American life, to try to militarily prevent the milliions of deaths that have in fact occurred in our absence?
Yes or no.
Desperate to change the subject!
This tactic is called the "20 questions tactic."
When you know you are losing, start asking questions, until you find something you HOPE will put the op on the defensive.
This isn't about whether or not we should or should NOT invade a country.
It's about what we should do ONCE WE ARE THERE FOR GOOD OR FOR ILL.
The fact is, WE ARE IN IRAQ WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT.
So, that being established we stop asking why we are there, and start asking HOW DO WE LEAVE?
Do we just bail as we did in Vietnam, with the last chopper taking off from the American compound and Hasta La Vista baby to the remaining Vietnamese and Cambodians who can't get out?
Do we leave them to just die?
Do we HAVE some responsibility to those people since we DID invade?
You won't answer those questions because you would have to THINK to do so.
You don't want to think. It's much easier to just hate Bush.
Bush arranged the Iraq withdrawal.
Who's changing the subject? You're claiming we have a responsibility to save lives all over the world,
so what about Africa?
[The EVENTUAL RESULT WAS 9/11!!!!!!!!!!
That's the best example of how just leaving and not only kill Afghanis, but eventually killed AMERICANS!
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9/11 happened because we were IN Saudi Arabia, not because we left anywhere.
Does the OP then believe that over the past 20 years the US should have intervened in the Congo, in the Sudan, and in Rwanda,
at great cost and loss of American life, to try to militarily prevent the milliions of deaths that have in fact occurred in our absence?
Yes or no.
Desperate to change the subject!
This tactic is called the "20 questions tactic."
When you know you are losing, start asking questions, until you find something you HOPE will put the op on the defensive.
This isn't about whether or not we should or should NOT invade a country.
It's about what we should do ONCE WE ARE THERE FOR GOOD OR FOR ILL.
The fact is, WE ARE IN IRAQ WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT.
So, that being established we stop asking why we are there, and start asking HOW DO WE LEAVE?
Do we just bail as we did in Vietnam, with the last chopper taking off from the American compound and Hasta La Vista baby to the remaining Vietnamese and Cambodians who can't get out?
Do we leave them to just die?
Do we HAVE some responsibility to those people since we DID invade?
You won't answer those questions because you would have to THINK to do so.
You don't want to think. It's much easier to just hate Bush.
The premise of your nonsensical argument is that the Cambodian genocide was our fault because once we're in a war somewhere, we can't just leave.
We weren't in Cambodia. We were in Vietnam. Your premise is shit.
Desperate to change the subject!
This tactic is called the "20 questions tactic."
When you know you are losing, start asking questions, until you find something you HOPE will put the op on the defensive.
This isn't about whether or not we should or should NOT invade a country.
It's about what we should do ONCE WE ARE THERE FOR GOOD OR FOR ILL.
The fact is, WE ARE IN IRAQ WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT.
So, that being established we stop asking why we are there, and start asking HOW DO WE LEAVE?
Do we just bail as we did in Vietnam, with the last chopper taking off from the American compound and Hasta La Vista baby to the remaining Vietnamese and Cambodians who can't get out?
Do we leave them to just die?
Do we HAVE some responsibility to those people since we DID invade?
You won't answer those questions because you would have to THINK to do so.
You don't want to think. It's much easier to just hate Bush.
Bush arranged the Iraq withdrawal.
Who's changing the subject? You're claiming we have a responsibility to save lives all over the world,
so what about Africa?
Please show me the evidence that Bush arranged the withdrawal by the end of the year.
And what does Africa have to do wit it?
Obama sent troops to Uganda. DUH!
Say it doesn't count?
Remember Vietnam started when Kennedy just sent advisers.
They did die for nothing. Letting more of them die would be outrageous.Hey, twit, why don't you risk your life and go over to Iraq to protect people from whatever?
Oh, of course you won't, you'd rather our soldiers die for that.
Bitch.
You'd rather that our soldiers who have already died, die for nothing!
And then add more deaths to that from innocent people left to suffer at the hands of those we fought to defeat.
It would be like us just leaving Germany after WWII and ignoring the fact they reopened the death camps to kill more Jews.
"We shouldn't have been there in the first place." Is NOT an answer to turning such a completely blind eye to that reality.
There are plenty of Christian missionaries in Iraq. Since you are so concerned about the Iraqis, and since you claim Christians are superior, why aren't you over there preaching the Gospel of Jesus?
Oh, yeah, because you're a hypocritical bitch that doesn't care about the Iraqis except as a political tool.
Kerry said that there would only be 10,000 people killed if we pulled out...oopsies.
Vietnam was a war won for the Communists by the LMSM
"U.S. involvement in Vietnam during World War II saw the Vietnamese as our allies.
Ho Chi Minh met with the U.S. operative, Major Patti, and they agreed on joint anti-Japanese actions. The U.S. dropped supplies behind the lines to Ho Chi Minh and the Viet Minh helped Americans downed behind Japanese lines. The first American advisors helped train, equip and arm the Viet Minh. In 1945, the Democratic Republic of Vietnam was formed with Ho Chi Minh as the first President. American planes flew over Hanoi in celebration of the founding. The Vietnamese Declaration of Independence echoed that of the U.S.: "All men are created equal. They are endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights, among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness...This immortal statement is extracted from the Declaration of Independence of the United States of America in 1776. Understood in the broader sense this means: All people on earth are born equal. Every person has the right to live, to be happy, and free."
Ho Chi Minh asked the Americans to honor their commitment to independence, citing the Atlantic Charter and the U.N. Charter on self-determination. However, by the end of the war, the U.S. government had begun to redirect its foreign policy from the wartime goal of the liberation of all occupied countries and colonies to the postwar anti-communist crusade, which became the Cold War. In France, where communists had led the resistance to the Nazi occupation, American policy supported General Charles de Gaulle and his anti-communist "Free French." De Gaulle aimed to restore the glory of France, which meant the return of all former French colonies. U.S. relations with the Vietnamese turned sour. President Truman refused to answer letters or cables from Ho. Instead, the U.S. began to ship military aid to the French forces in Indochina."
It has to do with the idiot OP's fake concern over millions dying in foreign conflicts.
Oh, get this. My concern is "fake."
You lefties really know you are losing the debate on this, don't you?
Now you have to smear the op, because you know you can't defeat the op.
You're claiming that the Cambodian genocide occurred because we left Cambodia too soon.
We were never in Cambodia (other than some across border actions going after the NVA).
Again, your premise is shit.
Breaking: The Cold War is over, we won! Cold War Dinosaurs! Iraq for the Iraqis!!
This what is called Post-History, and the Age of Information, including for Libyans and even Afhanistan! Let the smart people like Obama and NATO take care of of it, and stfu dittoheads....
Apparently, this is code for:
"You old people don't know what you are talking about! You are stuck in the Cold War!"
Considering this op has nothing to do with the Cold War, that's pretty pathetic.
You brought up our troop presence in Germany. Why are we still there?
Still can't answer I see.They did die for nothing. Letting more of them die would be outrageous.You'd rather that our soldiers who have already died, die for nothing!
And then add more deaths to that from innocent people left to suffer at the hands of those we fought to defeat.
It would be like us just leaving Germany after WWII and ignoring the fact they reopened the death camps to kill more Jews.
"We shouldn't have been there in the first place." Is NOT an answer to turning such a completely blind eye to that reality.
There are plenty of Christian missionaries in Iraq. Since you are so concerned about the Iraqis, and since you claim Christians are superior, why aren't you over there preaching the Gospel of Jesus?
Oh, yeah, because you're a hypocritical bitch that doesn't care about the Iraqis except as a political tool.
Typical liberal. When a liberal tactic fails they don't have the mental capacity to think up a new angle. They just double down on the same tactic and hope it works this time.
Breaking: The Cold War is over, we won! Cold War Dinosaurs! Iraq for the Iraqis!!
This what is called Post-History, and the Age of Information, including for Libyans and even Afhanistan! Let the smart people like Obama and NATO take care of of it, and stfu dittoheads....
Apparently, this is code for:
"You old people don't know what you are talking about! You are stuck in the Cold War!"
Considering this op has nothing to do with the Cold War, that's pretty pathetic.
The killing fields and Vietnam have nothing to do with the Cold War- That's a good one.
I'm 60- I'm saying Pub dupes are morons, and always have been...Leave gov't to the intelligent, not Pub chickenhawks...
You really need to pick up a history book.Cambodia and Vietnam are two different countries in case you missed that geography lesson.
Hellooooooooooooooooooooo idiot!
There is a REASON Nixon bombed Cambodia.
There is a REASON Pol Pot took over in Cambodia ONCE the US pulled out of Vietnam.
Do you know the reasons for this?
I bet a dime, you don't.
Thank you for proving the point, that not only do the left not learn from history. They don't even KNOW history, nor care to learn.
You should be raving against Bush you stupid bitch.
We can certainly leave a country that we never should have invaded before any more of our soldiers are killed.
Thank you for proving me right.
You don't care about the historical precedent.
You don't care that history teaches us what will happen if we just pull out of Iraq.
You don't care.
It's only about your irrational and narcissistic hatred of Bush.
That's all it's about with you.
Thank you for proving my point.
Come to think of it, we were partially in the Iraq mess because Poppa Bush pulled out without finishing off Saddam. Now where were you then? Quiet as a mouse.
Using your logic, we can blame the first Bush for all the deaths of Americans during Dubya's invasion.
There are plenty of Christian missionaries in Iraq. Since you are so concerned about the Iraqis, and since you claim Christians are superior, why aren't you over there preaching the Gospel of Jesus?
Oh, yeah, because you're a hypocritical bitch that doesn't care about the Iraqis except as a political tool.
JFK wanted to get out of Vietnam but the Military Industrial Complex blew his head off. Looking back, it seems to me that Vietnam was a 10 plus year money making opportunity for Politically connected Military Contractors, nothing more.
I can't blame what happened there on the Liberals for wanting to get out of Vietnam.
The funny thing is, teapeespam doesn't know how much of a fool she looks. She'll trot off from the thread eventually thinking she "won" the internets.Apparently, this is code for:
"You old people don't know what you are talking about! You are stuck in the Cold War!"
Considering this op has nothing to do with the Cold War, that's pretty pathetic.
You brought up our troop presence in Germany. Why are we still there?
So getting another another 50,000 Americans killed turning Cambodia into another Vietnam would have been a good thing?
How would that have worked, exactly?
Hey, twit, why don't you risk your life and go over to Iraq to protect people from whatever?
Oh, of course you won't, you'd rather our soldiers die for that.
Bitch.
You'd rather that our soldiers who have already died, die for nothing!
I'd rather that we quit sending our soldiers to die in some vain attempt to justify the soldiers we already sent to die.
i heard of the killing fields.
i heard of the bombing of cambodia, also.
i know why the rural population hated the city-dwellers and why the KR emptied pnomh penh within days after the capture.
i know who ended the KR regime.
i know who installed lon nol.
i know who was in charge from 1968-1975 in the US.
i know that you, teabaggers, are not to be taken seriously.
You didn't tell us how this military action in Cambodia would have worked exactly.
What has that got to do with it?
Did NIXON BOMB CAMBODIA???????
Yes??????????
Why did he do it?
You won't answer that question, because you know how it damages YOUR argument.
We bombed Cambodia because North Vietnam was using it against us and the South.
Now tell us how a military operation by the US would have prevented the Cambodian genocide.
And tell us specifically how that would have worked.
You really need to pick up a history book.Hellooooooooooooooooooooo idiot!
There is a REASON Nixon bombed Cambodia.
There is a REASON Pol Pot took over in Cambodia ONCE the US pulled out of Vietnam.
Do you know the reasons for this?
I bet a dime, you don't.
Thank you for proving the point, that not only do the left not learn from history. They don't even KNOW history, nor care to learn.
Yeah, I guess that's why YOU won't have the balls to answer a simple question.
Why did Nixon bomb Cambodia.
Gee, I wonder why no liberal will stick their neck out and answer that?
I know why! Because, it defeats their argument, and they know it.
