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However if we're talking about the sin of worshiping idols, then we are referencing the Jews and the OT.
Yes, they worshiped idols. They worshiped something that was not the living God. They worshiped an image.
Yet Christ clearly says that we worship God in spirit. There is no bowing, no groveling of the body. True worship is done on a spiritual level. Which means it occurs in our consciousness.
Yet Christ told us that with the death of he self, the rebirth allowed God to dwell in you, in this temple of flesh. Now think about worshiping God on the spiritual level as spoken of by Christ.
What place does this idea of Christ have in worshiping God in spirit, while God is dwelling in your fleshy temple? Where does He come in?
Now imagine yourself worshiping God in spirit, while He is residing in your temple of flesh. And remember, the self, the ego that died, is not the one worshiping God. The self is not fit to worship or even share the same space as God. When the self is, God isn't. When God is, the self isn't. Now fit in your idea of Christ as you have been taught by other men. Where does He figure in here?
Christ was nothing more than a man who was telling the world the reality of existence. He was the example that God could indeed inhabit this temple of flesh, and goodness could shine into the world. So he came and he taught the truth of reality, showed us how to be one again with the Creator, that was lost in Eden, and stuck by his guns to suffer death for his teachings. He would not have been believed if he had fled away and turned into a coward in that culture. His destiny was already written, in the Torah. So he died, and imperfect men created a religion around this man called Jesus. Yet that was not supposed to have happened, if the will of christ had been fulfilled.
Yet we have turned him into an idol, with him hanging there on the cross, dying for the world. We do not do as he told us to do. Instead we worship him, the ego, or the self worships him. And we are worshiping nothing more than an idea, an idea created by theology. That the self is doing the worshipiing is proof that no real worship is occuring.
Ok, I give up. Obviously your brain is thoroughly washed.
If you were stranded on a deserted island filled with people that worshipped an idol, would you break the idol?? Would you tell the people to stop worshipping it? Would you stand aloft from the people? Or would you join them in their hunting, rituals and fun??
I would join in and not make a big scene about their stone gods. Even though I would not believe in such a thing, I would not mind being social with the natives. Of course, I would question them why they believe in a rock and express my opinion on the matter(although I hwould have to be careful in terms of stating my opinion, now won't I?).
How about you guys?
(That was suppose to be "another" in the title)
However if we're talking about the sin of worshiping idols, then we are referencing the Jews and the OT.
Don't you mean the Hewbrews at the base of the mountain?
Jews do not worship golden calfs, their ancestors played around with them from time to times.
Which tend to suggest that the ancient Hebrews also knew religious stories of other cultures. I wonder what they did with those stories?
I didn't say they did worship golden calves. I said the Jews (ok Hebrews) worshipped the golden calf one memorable time.
However if we're talking about the sin of worshiping idols, then we are referencing the Jews and the OT.
Yes, they worshiped idols. They worshiped something that was not the living God. They worshiped an image.
Yet Christ clearly says that we worship God in spirit. There is no bowing, no groveling of the body. True worship is done on a spiritual level. Which means it occurs in our consciousness.
Yet Christ told us that with the death of he self, the rebirth allowed God to dwell in you, in this temple of flesh. Now think about worshiping God on the spiritual level as spoken of by Christ.
What place does this idea of Christ have in worshiping God in spirit, while God is dwelling in your fleshy temple? Where does He come in?
Now imagine yourself worshiping God in spirit, while He is residing in your temple of flesh. And remember, the self, the ego that died, is not the one worshiping God. The self is not fit to worship or even share the same space as God. When the self is, God isn't. When God is, the self isn't. Now fit in your idea of Christ as you have been taught by other men. Where does He figure in here?
Christ was nothing more than a man who was telling the world the reality of existence. He was the example that God could indeed inhabit this temple of flesh, and goodness could shine into the world. So he came and he taught the truth of reality, showed us how to be one again with the Creator, that was lost in Eden, and stuck by his guns to suffer death for his teachings. He would not have been believed if he had fled away and turned into a coward in that culture. His destiny was already written, in the Torah. So he died, and imperfect men created a religion around this man called Jesus. Yet that was not supposed to have happened, if the will of Christ had been fulfilled.
Yet we have turned him into an idol, with him hanging there on the cross, dying for the world. We do not do as he told us to do. Instead we worship him, the ego, or the self worships him. And we are worshiping nothing more than an idea, an idea created by theology. That the self is doing the worshipiing is proof that no real worship is occuring.
I love reading threads where different denominations of Christianity start telling each other the "RIGHT WAY" to believe!! Some funny shit. You all think you're right. In REAL life you're probably ALL full of shit.
I love reading threads where different denominations of Christianity start telling each other the "RIGHT WAY" to believe!! Some funny shit. You all think you're right. In REAL life you're probably ALL full of shit.
And if we're not ?????
See, if we are wrong, then no biggie. Dust to dust.
If we are right, uh o, you're toast.
I love reading threads where different denominations of Christianity start telling each other the "RIGHT WAY" to believe!! Some funny shit. You all think you're right. In REAL life you're probably ALL full of shit.
I love reading threads where different denominations of Christianity start telling each other the "RIGHT WAY" to believe!! Some funny shit. You all think you're right. In REAL life you're probably ALL full of shit.
And if we're not ?????
See, if we are wrong, then no biggie. Dust to dust.
If we are right, uh o, you're toast.
Well ,if you are right ,this means there is only one sect of Christians are right, and not all Christians.Plus, God is all forgiving and loves all his children , doesn't he ? So if you are right so for us it's no biggie.
If you are wrong, than you(not you specifically)are wasting a big portion of your one and only life to appease an imaginary friend. Which is unfortunate.
And if we're not ?????
See, if we are wrong, then no biggie. Dust to dust.
If we are right, uh o, you're toast.
Well ,if you are right ,this means there is only one sect of Christians are right, and not all Christians.Plus, God is all forgiving and loves all his children , doesn't he ? So if you are right so for us it's no biggie.
If you are wrong, than you(not you specifically)are wasting a big portion of your one and only life to appease an imaginary friend. Which is unfortunate.
Where do you get that only one *sect* of Christians can be right? Most Christians absolutely don't believe that.
And what you don't understand is that serving God brings JOY. If I were to find out tomorrow that God wasn't real (which of course will never happen) I would continue to live as if He were, because doing so brings happiness and joy.
Which of course just further strengthens my faith...we were designed to serve God, so of course we are most happy when serving him. It is our nature, and the Holy Spirit drives us to do it. It's when we don't that we are unhappy and empty.
I'd take interest in thier rituals but not participate as a believer and explain my beliefs. I wouldn't be anti social but I wouldn't insult them by pretending to worship their god.
I love reading threads where different denominations of Christianity start telling each other the "RIGHT WAY" to believe!! Some funny shit. You all think you're right. In REAL life you're probably ALL full of shit.
And if we're not ?????
See, if we are wrong, then no biggie. Dust to dust.
If we are right, uh o, you're toast.
Well ,if you are right ,this means there is only one sect of Christians are right, and not all Christians.Plus, God is all forgiving and loves all his children , doesn't he ? So if you are right so for us it's no biggie.
If you are wrong, than you(not you specifically)are wasting a big portion of your one and only life to appease an imaginary friend. Which is unfortunate.
Where do you get that only one *sect* of Christians can be right? Most Christians absolutely don't believe that.
And what you don't understand is that serving God brings JOY. If I were to find out tomorrow that God wasn't real (which of course will never happen) I would continue to live as if He were, because doing so brings happiness and joy.
Which of course just further strengthens my faith...we were designed to serve God, so of course we are most happy when serving him. It is our nature, and the Holy Spirit drives us to do it. It's when we don't that we are unhappy and empty.
Arguing about the meaning of the bible is not the same as telling others what to believe.
Intelligent debate is the hallmark of scholarship. Of course each person thinks he's right, regardless of what he's discussing. But as I said, I've met very few Christians who believe they've cornered the market on salvation.
Arguing about the meaning of the bible is not the same as telling others what to believe.
Intelligent debate is the hallmark of scholarship. Of course each person thinks he's right, regardless of what he's discussing. But as I said, I've met very few Christians who believe they've cornered the market on salvation.
Arguing about the meaning of the bible is not the same as telling others what to believe.
Intelligent debate is the hallmark of scholarship. Of course each person thinks he's right, regardless of what he's discussing. But as I said, I've met very few Christians who believe they've cornered the market on salvation.
Actually, most Christians DO think they have the market cornered on salvation. They state you HAVE to accept Yeshua as God (they're not the same individual btw) or you won't get into Heaven.
Pretty much leaves out the Jews, the Buddhists, Hindus, etc.