Antarctic and Arctic gaining ICE.. Not Melting...

[Old Rocks]

Then we have some really fucking dumb asses that flap yap with zero evidence.

 

[Zander]

Then we have some really fucking dumb asses that flap yap with zero evidence.

 

[Crick]

That DOES look like the flapping of a yap!

 

[jc456]

Acceleration of the contribution of the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets to sea level rise - Rignot - 2011 - Geophysical Research Letters - Wiley Online Library

Acceleration of the contribution of the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets to sea level rise
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• First published: 4 March 2011Full publication history
• DOI: 10.1029/2011GL046583View/save citation
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Abstract

[1] Ice sheet mass balance estimates have improved substantially in recent years using a variety of techniques, over different time periods, and at various levels of spatial detail. Considerable disparity remains between these estimates due to the inherent uncertainties of each method, the lack of detailed comparison between independent estimates, and the effect of temporal modulations in ice sheet surface mass balance. Here, we present a consistent record of mass balance for the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets over the past two decades, validated by the comparison of two independent techniques over the last 8 years: one differencing perimeter loss from net accumulation, and one using a dense time series of time-variable gravity. We find excellent agreement between the two techniques for absolute mass loss and acceleration of mass loss. In 2006, the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets experienced a combined mass loss of 475 ± 158 Gt/yr, equivalent to 1.3 ± 0.4 mm/yr sea level rise. Notably, the acceleration in ice sheet loss over the last 18 years was 21.9 ± 1 Gt/yr2 for Greenland and 14.5 ± 2 Gt/yr2 for Antarctica, for a combined total of 36.3 ± 2 Gt/yr2. This acceleration is 3 times larger than for mountain glaciers and ice caps (12 ± 6 Gt/yr2). If this trend continues, ice sheets will be the dominant contributor to sea level rise in the 21st century.

Just those dang pesky scientists again, and what do they know about anything?

2011?

 

[jc456]

A Reconciled Estimate of Ice-Sheet Mass Balance

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• RESEARCH ARTICLE

A Reconciled Estimate of Ice-Sheet Mass Balance

1. Andrew Shepherd1,*,
2. Erik R. Ivins2,*,
3. Geruo A3,
4. Valentina R. Barletta4,
5. Mike J. Bentley5,
6. Srinivas Bettadpur6,
7. Kate H. Briggs1,
8. David H. Bromwich7,
9. René Forsberg4,
10. Natalia Galin8,
11. Martin Horwath9,
12. Stan Jacobs10,
13. Ian Joughin11,
14. Matt A. King12,27,
15. Jan T. M. Lenaerts13,
16. Jilu Li14,
17. Stefan R. M. Ligtenberg13,
18. Adrian Luckman15,
19. Scott B. Luthcke16,
20. Malcolm McMillan1,
21. Rakia Meister8,
22. Glenn Milne17,
23. Jeremie Mouginot18,
24. Alan Muir8,
25. Julien P. Nicolas7,
26. John Paden14,
27. Antony J. Payne19,
28. Hamish Pritchard20,
29. Eric Rignot18,2,
30. Helmut Rott21,
31. Louise Sandberg Sørensen4,
32. Ted A. Scambos22,
33. Bernd Scheuchl18,
34. Ernst J. O. Schrama23,
35. Ben Smith11,
36. Aud V. Sundal1,
37. Jan H. van Angelen13,
38. Willem J. van de Berg13,
39. Michiel R. van den Broeke13,
40. David G. Vaughan20,
41. Isabella Velicogna18,2,
42. John Wahr3,
43. Pippa L. Whitehouse5,
44. Duncan J. Wingham8,
45. Donghui Yi24,
46. Duncan Young25,
47. H. Jay Zwally26

+Author Affiliations

1. ↵*To whom correspondence should be addressed. E-mail: [email protected] (A.S.); [email protected](E.R.I.)

• ABSTRACT

We combined an ensemble of satellite altimetry, interferometry, and gravimetry data sets using common geographical regions, time intervals, and models of surface mass balance and glacial isostatic adjustment to estimate the mass balance of Earth’s polar ice sheets. We find that there is good agreement between different satellite methods—especially in Greenland and West Antarctica—and that combining satellite data sets leads to greater certainty. Between 1992 and 2011, the ice sheets of Greenland, East Antarctica, West Antarctica, and the Antarctic Peninsula changed in mass by –142 ± 49, +14 ± 43, –65 ± 26, and –20 ± 14 gigatonnes year−1, respectively. Since 1992, the polar ice sheets have contributed, on average, 0.59 ± 0.20 millimeter year−1 to the rate of global sea-level rise.

More of the same.

2012?

 

[jc456]

Paleoclimatic Evidence for Future Ice-Sheet Instability and Rapid Sea-Level Rise

Paleoclimatic Evidence for Future Ice-Sheet Instability and Rapid Sea-Level Rise

1. Jonathan T. Overpeck1,*,
2. Bette L. Otto-Bliesner2,
3. Gifford H. Miller3,
4. Daniel R. Muhs4,
5. Richard B. Alley5,
6. Jeffrey T. Kiehl2

+Author Affiliations

1. ↵* To whom correspondence should be addressed. E-mail: [email protected]

• ABSTRACT

Sea-level rise from melting of polar ice sheets is one of the largest potential threats of future climate change. Polar warming by the year 2100 may reach levels similar to those of 130,000 to 127,000 years ago that were associated with sea levels several meters above modern levels; both the Greenland Ice Sheet and portions of the Antarctic Ice Sheet may be vulnerable. The record of past ice-sheet melting indicates that the rate of future melting and related sea-level rise could be faster than widely thought.

Goddamned scientists, who do they think they are, bring up evidence from the past?

2006?

Wow, look how many times they predicted the sea level rise and were wrong everytime. Dude this is hilarious, I know it was not your intent, but it ended up making you look like a dufus who doesn't understand what you posted failed your argument and instead bolsters ours. WOW took some stupid pills I see.

 

[jc456]

That DOES look like the flapping of a yap!

 

[bripat9643]

While you're looking for some evidence that Stephen McIntyre ever identified a fundamental flaw in any climate scientist's methodology (you know, one that would alter their conclusions), you can tell us whether or not you believe the Arctic's and Antarctic's ice mass are increasing.

When your methodology is shown to be fundamentally flawed, you can draw no valid conclusions.

McIntyre demonstrated that if you put white noise through Michael Mann's "Component Analysis" algorithms you still end up with a hockey stick. In other words, any conclusions drawn from his results are pure fantasy.

 

[Crick]

While you're looking for some evidence that Stephen McIntyre ever identified a fundamental flaw in any climate scientist's methodology (you know, one that would alter their conclusions), you can tell us whether or not you believe the Arctic's and Antarctic's ice mass are increasing.

When your methodology is shown to be fundamentally flawed, you can draw no valid conclusions.

McIntyre demonstrated that if you put white noise through Michael Mann's "Component Analysis" algorithms you still end up with a hockey stick. In other words, any conclusions drawn from his results are pure fantasy.

No, he did not. That claim was thoroughly refuted. Examine the graphic below. You will see a great many names besides Mann, Bradley and Hughes. They did not use the same method as MBH, but they found the same results.

PS: no one gives as shit about the MWP.

 

[bripat9643]

While you're looking for some evidence that Stephen McIntyre ever identified a fundamental flaw in any climate scientist's methodology (you know, one that would alter their conclusions), you can tell us whether or not you believe the Arctic's and Antarctic's ice mass are increasing.

When your methodology is shown to be fundamentally flawed, you can draw no valid conclusions.

McIntyre demonstrated that if you put white noise through Michael Mann's "Component Analysis" algorithms you still end up with a hockey stick. In other words, any conclusions drawn from his results are pure fantasy.

No, he did not. That claim was thoroughly refuted. Examine the graphic below. You will see a great many names besides Mann, Bradley and Hughes. They did not use the same method as MBH, but they found the same results.

PS: no one gives as shit about the MWP.

You posted another thoroughly discredited version of the hockey stick graph. All the authors of these graphs used the same discredited tree ring proxy data and discredited "component analysis" method.

 

[Old Rocks]

While you're looking for some evidence that Stephen McIntyre ever identified a fundamental flaw in any climate scientist's methodology (you know, one that would alter their conclusions), you can tell us whether or not you believe the Arctic's and Antarctic's ice mass are increasing.

When your methodology is shown to be fundamentally flawed, you can draw no valid conclusions.

McIntyre demonstrated that if you put white noise through Michael Mann's "Component Analysis" algorithms you still end up with a hockey stick. In other words, any conclusions drawn from his results are pure fantasy.

No, he did not. That claim was thoroughly refuted. Examine the graphic below. You will see a great many names besides Mann, Bradley and Hughes. They did not use the same method as MBH, but they found the same results.

PS: no one gives as shit about the MWP.

You posted another thoroughly discredited version of the hockey stick graph. All the authors of these graphs used the same discredited tree ring proxy data and discredited "component analysis" method.

What a bullshit artist and liar you are, Pattycake.

So what you are stating is that all the scientists involved in those graphs, all the scientists involved in climate research, are in on some nefarious plot to fool us all for some unknown reason concerning what increasing GHGs in the atmosphere creates. Stock up on lot's of tinfoil for your little hats.

 

[skookerasbil]

just like the droughts that come and go since forever, the ice comes and goes since forever.


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