Antarctic and Arctic gaining ICE.. Not Melting...

[SwimExpert]

You people make several mistakes:

1) McIntyre is, demonstrably, not a great statistician
2) McIntyre probably knows statistics better than some people doing statistics in the progress of conducting climate science
3) McIntyre does not know statistics better than most of the people doing statistics in the progress of conducting climate science
4) McIntyre's work has had no effect on the fundamental underpinnings of AGW
5) McIntyere's work has had very close to zero effect on the most arcane of climatological nuances with which he's taken issue
6) AGW is not an artifact of bad statistics.

Isn't McIntyre a scientist? Why do you reject the work of scientists?

 

[mamooth]

Still very low levels. However, I think the 2015 will cross above the 2012 line eventually. An early melt in Hudson Bay is responsible for much of the 2015 low level. Since Hudson Bay always melts out completely, that won't matter in the long run. 2015 will be a low year, lower than 2013 or 2014, but not as low as 2012. There's just too much thick ice present now.

The Alaskan heat wave has finally passed, after melting all the snow in Alaska, which flooded out the Dalton Highway (pipeline highway) for the first time ever. The heat wave will soon be shifting to the Siberian side, and will melt all the remaining snow there. Globally, snow levels are well below average.

Rutgers University Climate Lab Global Snow Lab

 

[IanC]

yup, another death spiral. soon our children wont know what snow is.


if you want to see the monthly charts, etc try this link. Northern Hemisphere Snow Cover Energy Matters

 

[Crick]

You people make several mistakes:

1) McIntyre is, demonstrably, not a great statistician
2) McIntyre probably knows statistics better than some people doing statistics in the progress of conducting climate science
3) McIntyre does not know statistics better than most of the people doing statistics in the progress of conducting climate science
4) McIntyre's work has had no effect on the fundamental underpinnings of AGW
5) McIntyere's work has had very close to zero effect on the most arcane of climatological nuances with which he's taken issue
6) AGW is not an artifact of bad statistics.

Isn't McIntyre a scientist? Why do you reject the work of scientists?

No, McIntyre is not a scientist. He has a masters in statistics and spent the bulk of his professional career working for the mining industry (primarily coal) where he has significant investments.

 

[Old Rocks]

Still very low levels. However, I think the 2015 will cross above the 2012 line eventually. An early melt in Hudson Bay is responsible for much of the 2015 low level. Since Hudson Bay always melts out completely, that won't matter in the long run. 2015 will be a low year, lower than 2013 or 2014, but not as low as 2012. There's just too much thick ice present now.

The Alaskan heat wave has finally passed, after melting all the snow in Alaska, which flooded out the Dalton Highway (pipeline highway) for the first time ever. The heat wave will soon be shifting to the Siberian side, and will melt all the remaining snow there. Globally, snow levels are well below average.

Rutgers University Climate Lab Global Snow Lab

Have not looked up what Alaska's overall all temps have been this year, but here in Portland, Oregon, we did not have a winter this year. Essentially an early spring, Dec14 through March, a late spring in April and early May, and an early summer since then. Going to be 93 or warmer today. Then mostly in the 80's for as far as they can see.

 

[jc456]

You people make several mistakes:

1) McIntyre is, demonstrably, not a great statistician
2) McIntyre probably knows statistics better than some people doing statistics in the progress of conducting climate science
3) McIntyre does not know statistics better than most of the people doing statistics in the progress of conducting climate science
4) McIntyre's work has had no effect on the fundamental underpinnings of AGW
5) McIntyere's work has had very close to zero effect on the most arcane of climatological nuances with which he's taken issue
6) AGW is not an artifact of bad statistics.

Isn't McIntyre a scientist? Why do you reject the work of scientists?

No, McIntyre is not a scientist. He has a masters in statistics and spent the bulk of his professional career working for the mining industry (primarily coal) where he has significant investments.

Ah are you jealous?

 

[Old Rocks]

Point is, this is an economic issue for him. And I personally hope he loses his shirt.

 

[jc456]

Still very low levels. However, I think the 2015 will cross above the 2012 line eventually. An early melt in Hudson Bay is responsible for much of the 2015 low level. Since Hudson Bay always melts out completely, that won't matter in the long run. 2015 will be a low year, lower than 2013 or 2014, but not as low as 2012. There's just too much thick ice present now.

The Alaskan heat wave has finally passed, after melting all the snow in Alaska, which flooded out the Dalton Highway (pipeline highway) for the first time ever. The heat wave will soon be shifting to the Siberian side, and will melt all the remaining snow there. Globally, snow levels are well below average.

Rutgers University Climate Lab Global Snow Lab

Have not looked up what Alaska's overall all temps have been this year, but here in Portland, Oregon, we did not have a winter this year. Essentially an early spring, Dec14 through March, a late spring in April and early May, and an early summer since then. Going to be 93 or warmer today. Then mostly in the 80's for as far as they can see.

Hmm, do you know why?

 

[jc456]

Point is, this is an economic issue for him. And I personally hope he loses his shirt.

Thanks for your honesty

 

[IanC]

You people make several mistakes:

1) McIntyre is, demonstrably, not a great statistician
2) McIntyre probably knows statistics better than some people doing statistics in the progress of conducting climate science
3) McIntyre does not know statistics better than most of the people doing statistics in the progress of conducting climate science
4) McIntyre's work has had no effect on the fundamental underpinnings of AGW
5) McIntyere's work has had very close to zero effect on the most arcane of climatological nuances with which he's taken issue
6) AGW is not an artifact of bad statistics.

Isn't McIntyre a scientist? Why do you reject the work of scientists?

No, McIntyre is not a scientist. He has a masters in statistics and spent the bulk of his professional career working for the mining industry (primarily coal) where he has significant investments.

All of that sounds like total bullshit to me. Starting with 'a masters in statistics'.

From the information I've seen he worked in the very speculative market of mineral exploration, gold mines and suchlike, in Canada. Success in that field depends on being able to ferret out the real story from sometimes not so honest claims. That's why his BS detector pegged at the pamphlet sent out by the Canadian govt in support of global warming alarmism, with the hockey stick displayed as proof. The rest is history.

 

[Old Rocks]

You people make several mistakes:

1) McIntyre is, demonstrably, not a great statistician
2) McIntyre probably knows statistics better than some people doing statistics in the progress of conducting climate science
3) McIntyre does not know statistics better than most of the people doing statistics in the progress of conducting climate science
4) McIntyre's work has had no effect on the fundamental underpinnings of AGW
5) McIntyere's work has had very close to zero effect on the most arcane of climatological nuances with which he's taken issue
6) AGW is not an artifact of bad statistics.

Isn't McIntyre a scientist? Why do you reject the work of scientists?

No, McIntyre is not a scientist. He has a masters in statistics and spent the bulk of his professional career working for the mining industry (primarily coal) where he has significant investments.

All of that sounds like total bullshit to me. Starting with 'a masters in statistics'.

From the information I've seen he worked in the very speculative market of mineral exploration, gold mines and suchlike, in Canada. Success in that field depends on being able to ferret out the real story from sometimes not so honest claims. That's why his BS detector pegged at the pamphlet sent out by the Canadian govt in support of global warming alarmism, with the hockey stick displayed as proof. The rest is history.

Oddly enough, McIntyre seems to peg all the rest of the scientists bullshit meters.

 

[IanC]

Point is, this is an economic issue for him. And I personally hope he loses his shirt.

This is not an economic issue for McIntyre, and never has been. He spent his working career picking good prospects and exposing fraudulent ones. Now that he has retired his eagle eye has turned to exposing questionable practices in climate science.

 

[IanC]

You people make several mistakes:

1) McIntyre is, demonstrably, not a great statistician
2) McIntyre probably knows statistics better than some people doing statistics in the progress of conducting climate science
3) McIntyre does not know statistics better than most of the people doing statistics in the progress of conducting climate science
4) McIntyre's work has had no effect on the fundamental underpinnings of AGW
5) McIntyere's work has had very close to zero effect on the most arcane of climatological nuances with which he's taken issue
6) AGW is not an artifact of bad statistics.

Isn't McIntyre a scientist? Why do you reject the work of scientists?

No, McIntyre is not a scientist. He has a masters in statistics and spent the bulk of his professional career working for the mining industry (primarily coal) where he has significant investments.

All of that sounds like total bullshit to me. Starting with 'a masters in statistics'.

From the information I've seen he worked in the very speculative market of mineral exploration, gold mines and suchlike, in Canada. Success in that field depends on being able to ferret out the real story from sometimes not so honest claims. That's why his BS detector pegged at the pamphlet sent out by the Canadian govt in support of global warming alarmism, with the hockey stick displayed as proof. The rest is history.

Oddly enough, McIntyre seems to peg all the rest of the scientists bullshit meters.

I think you meant to say their fear and loathing scale. He has certainly been an inconvenience to them.

 

[SwimExpert]

You people make several mistakes:

1) McIntyre is, demonstrably, not a great statistician
2) McIntyre probably knows statistics better than some people doing statistics in the progress of conducting climate science
3) McIntyre does not know statistics better than most of the people doing statistics in the progress of conducting climate science
4) McIntyre's work has had no effect on the fundamental underpinnings of AGW
5) McIntyere's work has had very close to zero effect on the most arcane of climatological nuances with which he's taken issue
6) AGW is not an artifact of bad statistics.

Isn't McIntyre a scientist? Why do you reject the work of scientists?

No, McIntyre is not a scientist. He has a masters in statistics and spent the bulk of his professional career working for the mining industry (primarily coal) where he has significant investments.

But math is a science...

 

[Crick]

You people make several mistakes:

1) McIntyre is, demonstrably, not a great statistician
2) McIntyre probably knows statistics better than some people doing statistics in the progress of conducting climate science
3) McIntyre does not know statistics better than most of the people doing statistics in the progress of conducting climate science
4) McIntyre's work has had no effect on the fundamental underpinnings of AGW
5) McIntyere's work has had very close to zero effect on the most arcane of climatological nuances with which he's taken issue
6) AGW is not an artifact of bad statistics.

Isn't McIntyre a scientist? Why do you reject the work of scientists?

No, McIntyre is not a scientist. He has a masters in statistics and spent the bulk of his professional career working for the mining industry (primarily coal) where he has significant investments.

But math is a science...

This discussion is off topic, what little of it you're actually trying to make.

 

[Crick]

Point is, this is an economic issue for him. And I personally hope he loses his shirt.

This is not an economic issue for McIntyre, and never has been. He spent his working career picking good prospects and exposing fraudulent ones. Now that he has retired his eagle eye has turned to exposing questionable practices in climate science.

But none of that "eagle-eyed" spotting has found anything of significance.

 

[SwimExpert]

This discussion is off topic, what little of it you're actually trying to make.

Off topic is making you mad. Mad makes people hot. Hot makes global warming. So relax, I'm proving global warming. At the very same level as all the rest of the evidence.

 

[Crick]

In an attempt to get back on thread topic: does anyone here believe the Arctic is gaining ice mass? Does anyone here believe the Antarctic is gaining ice mass? Swimexpert?

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Stop trolling the thread

 

[bripat9643]

Point is, this is an economic issue for him. And I personally hope he loses his shirt.

It's an economic issue for every so-called "client scientist" sucking on the government tit.