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The Man
- Dec 6, 2009
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Military retirement is no more a 'social program' than your 401K or retirement fund is....
Just because you want it to be so that you can take a crack at vets who EARNED all of their benefits, does not make it so bitch
no, ddave. the government takes money through tax and pays it to veterans. it pays out to cripples, moms and their kids, and old folks. it pays for criminal's food and shelter in prison.
these are all social entitlements. some are more worthy than others by my estimate; some are 'earned', but it doesn't change the way they work, who they are managed by and how they are funded.
a 401k is an investment fund that is privately managed. you earn the money and you and your employer agree to pay it into the fund.
No, idiot... the government is acting as an EMPLOYER to the EMPLOYEES of the US Military... it is no different than any other BENEFIT situation that is negotiated for employment compensation... a SOCIAL PROGRAM does not equate to a employment benefit
but thanks for playing... please see Don Pardo for some lovely parting gifts
i fail to see why it matters whether it is an employment promise or a citizenship promise or an american babies promise. if you think that social security or military pensions are some kind of protected fund that the government has set aside for us, perhaps you're the idiot.
my dumbass sees the government extract cash from me, my company and my employees, use it with the same discretion as income taxes for all intents and purposes, then pay it out to welfare recipients, veterans, old timers, cripples, medicare providers, etc.
the issue is that your hypocritical ass wants to deride the government's 'redistribution of wealth' and engage in denial of the ways which entitlements work in our economy. when faced with the reality that you've got gubmint milk squirting from a communal teet into your bank account, you scramble to bullshit your way out of the hot seat.
you said it yourself in all caps: BENEFIT. the government doesn't set aside a bit of what they would have paid you cash when a veteran was on active duty, rather, just like your active duty government paychecks, your veteran status government paycheck comes from income taxes, social security and medicare contributions along with flagrant borrowing. the same thing could be said of any given welfare mom.
if you want to argue how much more important you are than benefit chics, you're welcome to. i might even agree. but your contention that pensions are on some magic high ground precluded from progressive welfare policy is bullshit.