Ame®icano;1569274 said:maybe, but that does not explain why the majority of them did not commit other crimes while here...you'd think they would all be burglars, or rapists, or murders and all be on criminal row....and are the employers that hire them criminals as well, and what is their punishment for not respecting the law of the country they are actually citizens in?
Also, before I answer...what is amnesty? Can you please define what amnesty is to you before i answer?
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I don't really care that majority of them didn't commit "crimes", excluding the fact that being illegal in this country is already a crime. Majority of them didn't commit crimes in their country of origin, should we invite them in too?
Yes, employers that knowingly employ illegals are breaking a law. None of our politicians voted to let illegals to cross our border, but they did vote on laws that suppose to be enforced in our country. Now they are turning blind eye on the same laws they voted on?
I listed some of those laws above. Are we to give illegal aliens amnesty for violating those laws while Americans citizens have been prosecuted for violating the very same laws?
I will have to ask McCain, but I believe his plan was not to allow those that committed identity theft to be able to work towards amnesty...only the ones that just committed the civil offense of crossing the border, did he have a plan to give them citizenship after 5 more years, paying a fine, learning english and other requirements...or something like that.....let me see if I can find the plan he had originally created or supported that a bunch of others jumped on the bandwagon for as well....
I heard some of his points before the election, but I would like to read that plan, if you find it, please post it here. Bush in 2005/06 tried the same thing, he wanted to allow the illegals here to work towards becomming legal, but was soundly defeated by both Republicans and Democrats. But then, the Democrats wanted it to not work, so they could have the issue to beat Republicans over the head with in the 2006 election.
Of course, McCain couldn't say that he want them out of here, he had to compromise and that put him closer to the left. He did it on many issues and that's why, in my opinion, he lost the election.
I agree, there are many "special cases" that will require close(r) attention, for instance, children born in US are automatically American citizens. I would change that, and have a child get citizenship of mother's country or origin. I agree also, that many of them are working here for years. But they are working here illegally for years. To me, those who work on fake documents are worse for the economy and employment then those who work for cash. Giving them amnesty, would be the largest wholesale screwing of the American citizen/voter in recent history.
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