francoHFW
Diamond Member
Making 9/11, the stupidest wars ever, a depression, and themselves 273% richer while the country goes to hell. Also making 30% of the country into brainwashed hater/morons...
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Good example of conservative class warfare, they alone are deserving of their possessions, everyone else must be a mooch on their real American overtaxed whiny fat asses. Greed as a virtue, gotta love it when it is put so plainly.
well why don't you tell us why you think you are entitled to the bread someone else has earned and baked? go ahead, it should be interesting.
All it takes is money and a need that requires satisfaction. The need precedes everything else. If you don't have a market for your product or service, you can have all the capital in the world and you will still fail. Unless, of course....you use your capital to buy your government and create an artificial market.
Having a NEED takes no effort and creates nothing. And a lot of times you don't have a clue what to buy for someone do you? But you go to the mall, and find cool shit that you NEVER EVER imagined. A good entreprenuer can CREATE a need. You don't NEED to buy a 12" cookie with your Family Size Pizza --- do ya?
Outside of consumer market -- which is a LARGE chunk of the marketplace, Average Joe has no fucking idea what kind of new bedside monitor he needs in the hospital. Or what kind of gear your ISP should have. You guys are limiting your thesis to CONSUMER need.
Bullshit. Having a need is what creates a market...that market is what creates the opportunity to make money off of it. Consumer need drives innovation and the ability to pay for those products and services drives the economy.
there will ne no civil war. That is utter nonesense.
I can't take this anymore.... Have you guys even just thought about running a business, like opening one and what it would take?
Demand creates jobs. No demand, no jobs. No wealthy people. Period.
I can't take this anymore.... Have you guys even just thought about running a business, like opening one and what it would take?
Demand creates jobs. No demand, no jobs. No wealthy people. Period.
So Demand created the IPOD? Really? I thought Steve Jobs and Apple invested money into developing it and then advertised it to people showing them what it could do for them. It seems difficult for me to comprehend that Demand created jobs when no one knew what an IPOD was to demand it until someone spent the capital to create one and advertise it to people.
Demand is completely irrelevant until after you have a product or service. It takes money to create those.
Making 9/11, the stupidest wars ever, a depression, and themselves 273% richer while the country goes to hell. Also making 30% of the country into brainwashed hater/morons...
Good example of conservative class warfare, they alone are deserving of their possessions, everyone else must be a mooch on their real American overtaxed whiny fat asses. Greed as a virtue, gotta love it when it is put so plainly.
well why don't you tell us why you think you are entitled to the bread someone else has earned and baked? go ahead, it should be interesting.
Shut up, skank
Making 9/11, the stupidest wars ever, a depression, and themselves 273% richer while the country goes to hell. Also making 30% of the country into brainwashed hater/morons...
Can anyone translate these incoherent sentence fragments?
mascale?Making 9/11, the stupidest wars ever, a depression, and themselves 273% richer while the country goes to hell. Also making 30% of the country into brainwashed hater/morons...
Can anyone translate these incoherent sentence fragments?
Making 9/11, the stupidest wars ever, a depression, and themselves 273% richer while the country goes to hell. Also making 30% of the country into brainwashed hater/morons...
Can anyone translate these incoherent sentence fragments?
Yes:
Franco had to much to drink and started posting......
That or his depends haven't been changed in a while and he's grouchy because he is getting a rash.
No. on one side are people, and on another side are farts who wish for war.On one side are those who create wealth, Americas private sectorthe very ones targeted by President Obamas tax hikes announced Monday.
On the other are the public employee unions; left-leaning intelligentsia who see the growth of government as index of progress; and the millions of Americans now dependent on government through a growing network of government transfer payments, from Medicaid and Social Security to college loans and corporate bailouts and handouts (think GM and Solyndra).
Sooo, seeing that we have had it your way for a long ass time, when do we get to try something else?
BTW, great job at not answering the question.
Wealthy people create wealth and jobs in many different ways. Personal wealth allows people to invest in ideas they like, or just think will be profitable, or even just for fun... That creates jobs and wealth.
Another way wealthy people create more wealth and jobs is by buying things that interest them, like one of a kind custom boats, cars, planes, musical interments, houses and so on... Things that a company would never make, things a company could never afford to push their limits on because there would otherwise be no profit in doing so and the overhead would kill that project.
The greatest example of wealthy people helping the US and world is in Healthcare, where rich people in America are by definition the reason why all other countries on planet earth are not currently using HC "solutions" that of a third world country of today. Wealthy people can afford to buy HC products that later become affordable by the middle class and lastly Governments around the world, after our poor have access to them. The US still produces something like 40% of the worlds new medicines and that number used to be much higher, before we became a welfare state. Lucky for all the other countries in the world that creating almost all meaningful drugs and surgeries ever discovered is not placed on their shoulders, the cost that our wealthy pay for development would have bankrupted all of these countries overnight, meaning it would have never been discovered.
The US, through wealthy people allows industries to create prototypes, build dreams and in the process offer the chance for others to become wealthy. Almost everything you own was once completely unaffordable by you, do you ever wonder how you own a TV that once would have costed you 10 thousand dollars but now get it for 500$? Or a phone that can play games, has voice recognition, has a HD of 100gig and plays movies in 3D? Here is a guess, it was not created by people on welfare for other people on welfare.
Wealthy people do not "create jobs". Jobs become necessary to fill when people become interested in buying a product.
At that point, in order to make said product, a business requires all kinds of people to make it run.
From the richest investor down to the janitors that clean the place at night.
Buyers of products "create" jobs, if anything.
And certainly the rich have no monopoly on being consumers. Every single individual, from the poorest to the richest is a consumer.
Investors are no more, or less, important to the health of a company than the people that work for that company.
An investor could not "create" anything without demand, and a willing and talented workforce to make the product needed.
In order for that willing and talented workforce to exist, there needs to be a large pool of educated individuals. Therefore the general populace needs teachers.
In addition, in order to transport materials efficiently, etc, there needs to be a viable infrastructure in place. Roads need to be there, railroads, airports, etc etc.
Public Safety is needed to protect the company's assets, as well as firemen, insurance brokers, etc, etc.
All of these things are paid for by the taxpayers. All the taxpayers.
And all of these jobs are performed by "regular Joe" middle class and poor workers.
Therefore, to call investors "the job creators" is absurd.
You see, YOUR point is that the rich are the "Job Creators", and everyone else is apparently living off their beneficence.
MY point is that we are all "Job Creators", and that the relationship between rich and poor is one of mutual reliance.