American Third Position

[del]

Perhaps I misspoke. Rather than pure capitalism, replace what I said with "the capitalism used by the U.S.A. from its founding until today".

much like pure capitalism, this is nonexistent.

try again

Let me preface this by saying that I'm well aware of the fact that certain regulations have been altered, in regards to the extent of capitalistic freedom, over the course of U.S. history. That being said, are you denying that the U.S. has been, and is, a capitalist nation, by and large?

please

 

[lundvithr]

much like pure capitalism, this is nonexistent.

try again

Let me preface this by saying that I'm well aware of the fact that certain regulations have been altered, in regards to the extent of capitalistic freedom, over the course of U.S. history. That being said, are you denying that the U.S. has been, and is, a capitalist nation, by and large?

Why do you have such an inferiority complex about your skin color?

Please provide a logical base for your argument: that I have an inferiority complex about my skin color. Or, better yet, refrain from ad-hominem attacks and address the argument itself.

 

[del]

Who said anything about blaming anyone for my/our failures? We're simply trying to keep the White race from going extinct. We're not blaming minorities, we're simply looking inward - at ourselves - and saying, 'hey, maybe this isn't the way things should go for us'. We don't want to gas any Jews, we don't want to send people to camps, we simply want the right to continue to exist distinctly, as ourselves. That's all. In regards to why you should care about it: well, that's for you to decide. I've brought the national argument here, but there's no way for me to force anyone to care. Simply giving people the option via the spreading of the ideas of national unity, racial pride and survival.

Don't give me that crap, I read your OP - on three different forums, I might add.

Who's to blame for the failure of the education system, the deterioration of our neighborhoods and all of the other ills you copied and pasted again? You'll need to do better than that to win the all-time intellectual dishonesty award, but you're coming really, really close.

We ourselves are to blame. We are the ones who've let it come this far. And only by looking at ourselves can be save ourselves from extinction. Some 'nationalists' like to blame Jews, or blacks, etc. We aren't them. We are the true alternative. Only by looking inward can we get back on the right path.

alternative to what?

sentience?

 

[lundvithr]

Don't give me that crap, I read your OP - on three different forums, I might add.

Who's to blame for the failure of the education system, the deterioration of our neighborhoods and all of the other ills you copied and pasted again? You'll need to do better than that to win the all-time intellectual dishonesty award, but you're coming really, really close.

We ourselves are to blame. We are the ones who've let it come this far. And only by looking at ourselves can be save ourselves from extinction. Some 'nationalists' like to blame Jews, or blacks, etc. We aren't them. We are the true alternative. Only by looking inward can we get back on the right path.

alternative to what?

sentience?

I still fail to understand why you people continue to hurl insults, rather than address the argument. Is that the only way that you people know how to debate, by insulting the opponent?

We are the only alternative to White extinction.

 

[del]

We ourselves are to blame. We are the ones who've let it come this far. And only by looking at ourselves can be save ourselves from extinction. Some 'nationalists' like to blame Jews, or blacks, etc. We aren't them. We are the true alternative. Only by looking inward can we get back on the right path.

alternative to what?

sentience?

I still fail to understand why you people continue to hurl insults, rather than address the argument. Is that the only way that you people know how to debate, by insulting the opponent?

We are the only alternative to White extinction.

then i'll take extinction.

 

[goldcatt]

Who said anything about blaming anyone for my/our failures? We're simply trying to keep the White race from going extinct. We're not blaming minorities, we're simply looking inward - at ourselves - and saying, 'hey, maybe this isn't the way things should go for us'. We don't want to gas any Jews, we don't want to send people to camps, we simply want the right to continue to exist distinctly, as ourselves. That's all. In regards to why you should care about it: well, that's for you to decide. I've brought the national argument here, but there's no way for me to force anyone to care. Simply giving people the option via the spreading of the ideas of national unity, racial pride and survival.

Don't give me that crap, I read your OP - on three different forums, I might add.

Who's to blame for the failure of the education system, the deterioration of our neighborhoods and all of the other ills you copied and pasted again? You'll need to do better than that to win the all-time intellectual dishonesty award, but you're coming really, really close.

We ourselves are to blame. We are the ones who've let it come this far. And only by looking at ourselves can be save ourselves from extinction. Some 'nationalists' like to blame Jews, or blacks, etc. We aren't them. We are the true alternative. Only by looking inward can we get back on the right path.

I suggest you go back and read your own OP again. Who wrote it?

 

[lundvithr]

Don't give me that crap, I read your OP - on three different forums, I might add.

Who's to blame for the failure of the education system, the deterioration of our neighborhoods and all of the other ills you copied and pasted again? You'll need to do better than that to win the all-time intellectual dishonesty award, but you're coming really, really close.

We ourselves are to blame. We are the ones who've let it come this far. And only by looking at ourselves can be save ourselves from extinction. Some 'nationalists' like to blame Jews, or blacks, etc. We aren't them. We are the true alternative. Only by looking inward can we get back on the right path.

I suggest you go back and read your own OP again. Who wrote it?

Who do you think the capitalists and communists are, as referred to in the OP? The vast majority are White. I wrote the OP, and I stand by it. Those of our race, who strayed to greed and corruption or cultural Marxism, are still of our race - and, therefore, are us. Therefore, we ourselves are indeed to blame.

 

[Old Rocks]

I've yet to see anyone address any part of my post. All you people seem to have done is hurl ad-hominem insults at me. If you can't debate my argument - that we, the White race, are going extinct and we should prevent that - then I accept your concession. If you'd prefer to not concede the argument, then address my argument, rather than insult me. Simple, no?

OK. I live in a neighborhood in Porland, Oregon that has every type and sub-type, and all the mixes that one can imagine. The only group that I have not seen represented here is Australian Aborigine. And the kids are out in the street playing all the time. It is a working class neighborhood, and has suffered much as the working middle has for the last two years, yet the housing prices dropped less than any other area in Portland, and are actually, right now, starting to rise.

While you may hear any language spoken in the local stores, the primary language remains English, and is the primary language of the children born of the immigrants.

What I am hearing from you is that you resent anyone that is not a carbon copy of yourself.

 

[Old Rocks]

Hmmm..... In one way, Lunds rhetoric is humorous. You see, for most of us that have ancestors that reach back to the foundation of this nation, doing geneology is a real eye opener in regards to 'racial purity'.

 

[Ringel05]

We ourselves are to blame. We are the ones who've let it come this far. And only by looking at ourselves can be save ourselves from extinction. Some 'nationalists' like to blame Jews, or blacks, etc. We aren't them. We are the true alternative. Only by looking inward can we get back on the right path.

alternative to what?

sentience?

I still fail to understand why you people continue to hurl insults, rather than address the argument. Is that the only way that you people know how to debate, by insulting the opponent?

We are the only alternative to White extinction.

Then we need to hurry up with the extinction so we can get rid of people like you, you give us muddies a bad name. Taxidermy! There's your solution.......

 

[Si modo]

Let me preface this by saying that I'm well aware of the fact that certain regulations have been altered, in regards to the extent of capitalistic freedom, over the course of U.S. history. That being said, are you denying that the U.S. has been, and is, a capitalist nation, by and large?

Why do you have such an inferiority complex about your skin color?

Please provide a logical base for your argument: that I have an inferiority complex about my skin color. Or, better yet, refrain from ad-hominem attacks and address the argument itself.

It's a simple question about the apparent basis of your position. I understand how you want to dodge it, though.

 

[Bigmo]

Why do you have such an inferiority complex about your skin color?

Please provide a logical base for your argument: that I have an inferiority complex about my skin color. Or, better yet, refrain from ad-hominem attacks and address the argument itself.

It's a simple question about the apparent basis of your position. I understand how you want to dodge it, though.

There is nothing wrong with being a Nationalist. But you have to be a Nationalist in the true sense of the word. Too often Nationalsit in America celebrate differences and present other ethnicity as problems.

First it does not matter whether mass immigration has been good or bad for America. A Nationalist would not care. Its about preserving a culture and heritage and a way of life. Ethnicity is very much a shaper of culture. Its not possible to speak of American culture without the European ethnic element. However, Blacks and Native Americans are not recent immigrants. They also constiture America's heritage. Grits and corn bread are just as much American as Apple Pie and Hot dogs. Tyrone, leroy and Toby are just as American as Theodore, Humphrey and Kimberley.

Its one thing to oppose mass immigration but its another to see Black Americans and Native Americans as outside the American identity.

The A3P has conflicting agendas. One one side you have people like Macdonald who claim he wants America to be what it was in 1960, 90 per cent White. yet his party does not recognize anyone who is not White. He says Blacks have their own organizations. True, by two wrongs don't make a right.

 

[Bigmo]

There is nothing wrong with being a Nationalist. But you have to be a Nationalist in the true sense of the word. Too often Nationalists in America celebrate differences and present other ethnicity as problems.

First it does not matter whether mass immigration has been good or bad for America. A Nationalist would not care. Its about preserving a culture and heritage and a way of life. Ethnicity is very much a shaper of culture. Its not possible to speak of American culture without the European ethnic element. However, Blacks and Native Americans are not recent immigrants. They also constitute America's heritage. Grits and corn bread are just as much American as Apple Pie and Hot dogs. Tyrone, leroy and Toby are just as American as Theodore, Humphrey and Kimberley.

Its one thing to oppose mass immigration but its another to see Black Americans and Native Americans as outside the American identity.

The A3P has conflicting agendas. One one side you have people like Macdonald who claims he wants America to be what it was in 1960, 90 per cent White. yet his party does not recognize anyone who is not White. Eevn those whow ere here for over 400 years.!!! He says Blacks have their own organizations. True, but two wrongs don't make a right.

The 1965 immigration was Jewish lobbying to alter America's demographic and displace European Americans as a majority. Thats a hostile agenda. That should be opposed but to equate those who migrated here after that law with other minorities and ethnic group means you have the definition of the American nation wrong.

 

[editec]

Streets that were once brimming with children are now either deserted or run-down. Going into the various neighborhoods, one finds oneself to be in a foreign land, amongst foreign peoples. The so-called 'demographic shift' has come to us, dressed up in pretty words such as 'diversity', 'multiculturalism', 'inclusion', 'acceptance' and 'tolerance'. Any single person who dares to speak out against this change is inundated with attacks on their character and on their very livelihood. We are told that this change, this metamorphosis into a global, mono-racial, mono-lingual slave- class is not only natural, but that we want it to happen - that our extinction is, in fact, a desireable goal. The capitalists, whose only motive is profit, don't care for our welfare, for our well-being, for our own exististence - the capitalists toss us aside like garbage, after we've become useless to them in a system that prides itself on benefitting from the extinction of our own grandparents and grandchildren, of our gene pool, of our in-group - or, if you will, of our race.
The communists attempt to gain sway over us by promoting the ideas of egalitarianism and equality. They use subtlety and manipulation to achieve their goals. Under the guise of unity and strength, they built the system up with what were at first only mild goals - the end of segregation, the end of discrimination, the sexual revolution; however, these were simply the first steps to achieving their goal. In society's acceptance of these seemingly feel-good ideas, the decline in our birth rate rose to the forefront of everyone's mind - except to we, ourselves. We turned a blind-eye to the declining birth rate, to the testosterone- and IQ-reducing fluoride being forced upon us, to mercury being put in our fillings, to pesticides in our food. And yet we say nothing. Those in power don't care, because all they want is a working drone-slave-class, and the intentional dumbing-down of our educational system and the brain-harming chemicals in the very same products that claim to give us sustenence works in their favor.
Both parties have sold us out to the highest bidder. And these facts lead to a single conclusion, solid as titanium: this system is bringing us extinction.
However, an old saying still rings true, across generations and generations, from our ancestors in the forests of Europe, to the Roman Legionnaires, to the Vikings who lived in the icy mountains of Scandinavia, to the Celtic clans of Ireland and Scotland, to the Gauls and the Franks of ancient France, to the Germanic tribes encompassing all of central Europe, outward towards the eastern sunrise of the Slavs from the tribe of Rus, to the ancient Greeks and back to the Celtiberian warriors of ancient Spain and Portugal our ancestors have uttered this single phrase, if not in word than in spirit: where there is a will, there is always a way.
We aren't gone yet, and our children, our grand-children, our great-grand-children will thank us for it. Many movements come and go. Many small parties rise and fall like the flicker of a light or a candle in the wind. We are not them. We are the alternative. Join us, at the American Third Position, and we will secure the existence of our people and a future for our children.

So fellow White Americans...

If my trailer is a rockin', don't come a knockin'!!

 

[WillowTree]

As expected, I see attacks on character, nothing more.

Well, if you expected it why did you bother? Oh I see. Just shit stirring or is that trolling.

 

[topspin]

lUND what's your wife/cousin up too?

 

[IanC]

'Tragedy of the Commons' writ large.

Western culture is based on the character of the white race. You can argue whether that is a good thing or not but it has been very sucessful. Other races and ethnicities have come to Western countries to share what we built but now they are rejecting the majority culture to a larger degree than in the past and political correctness demands that all cultures are equal. Unfortunately they are not, otherwise other countries would be just as sucessful.

In much the same way as welfare is only a good system when there are lots of contributors and few recipients, multiculturalism only works when there is a predominant culture so well that it is able and willing to share. We are rapidly approaching the point where there are too many factions and everyone wants a little more than their share and the whole system will shrink to the detriment of all.

 

[BlindBoo]

Streets that were once brimming with children are now either deserted or run-down. Going into the various neighborhoods, one finds oneself to be in a foreign land, amongst foreign peoples. The so-called 'demographic shift' has come to us, dressed up in pretty words such as 'diversity', 'multiculturalism', 'inclusion', 'acceptance' and 'tolerance'. Any single person who dares to speak out against this change is inundated with attacks on their character and on their very livelihood. We are told that this change, this metamorphosis into a global, mono-racial, mono-lingual slave- class is not only natural, but that we want it to happen - that our extinction is, in fact, a desireable goal. The capitalists, whose only motive is profit, don't care for our welfare, for our well-being, for our own exististence - the capitalists toss us aside like garbage, after we've become useless to them in a system that prides itself on benefitting from the extinction of our own grandparents and grandchildren, of our gene pool, of our in-group - or, if you will, of our race.
The communists attempt to gain sway over us by promoting the ideas of egalitarianism and equality. They use subtlety and manipulation to achieve their goals. Under the guise of unity and strength, they built the system up with what were at first only mild goals - the end of segregation, the end of discrimination, the sexual revolution; however, these were simply the first steps to achieving their goal. In society's acceptance of these seemingly feel-good ideas, the decline in our birth rate rose to the forefront of everyone's mind - except to we, ourselves. We turned a blind-eye to the declining birth rate, to the testosterone- and IQ-reducing fluoride being forced upon us, to mercury being put in our fillings, to pesticides in our food. And yet we say nothing. Those in power don't care, because all they want is a working drone-slave-class, and the intentional dumbing-down of our educational system and the brain-harming chemicals in the very same products that claim to give us sustenence works in their favor.
Both parties have sold us out to the highest bidder. And these facts lead to a single conclusion, solid as titanium: this system is bringing us extinction.
However, an old saying still rings true, across generations and generations, from our ancestors in the forests of Europe, to the Roman Legionnaires, to the Vikings who lived in the icy mountains of Scandinavia, to the Celtic clans of Ireland and Scotland, to the Gauls and the Franks of ancient France, to the Germanic tribes encompassing all of central Europe, outward towards the eastern sunrise of the Slavs from the tribe of Rus, to the ancient Greeks and back to the Celtiberian warriors of ancient Spain and Portugal our ancestors have uttered this single phrase, if not in word than in spirit: where there is a will, there is always a way.
We aren't gone yet, and our children, our grand-children, our great-grand-children will thank us for it. Many movements come and go. Many small parties rise and fall like the flicker of a light or a candle in the wind. We are not them. We are the alternative. Join us, at the American Third Position, and we will secure the existence of our people and a future for our children.

Oh my, where to start?

The end of segregation, the end of discrimination, and the sexual revolution were all good for America as a whole. Not so good for the segratationist.

Was it the communist who pushed for abolishing slavery?

Say where did your ancestors in the forests of Europe come from anyway?

 

[ConservativeDad]

As far as I know, I'm not breaking any rules. I'm not insulting any of you and I'm certainly not using any logical fallacies. However, the entire point is to spread these ideas to those hundreds of guests who view this forum every day. They can clearly see how you refuse to debate with me.

Always remember: the truth will set you free.

All right, tell me exactly why I should give a flying rat's ass about your whole White Pride agenda.

What difference does it make in my life who you want to blame for your failures, what does it matter who you blame for your failures, and who the fuck are you to determine why some human beings who happen to look just like you are superior to others who don't so you can blame those "others" for your failures.

Sell it, sister.

Who said anything about blaming anyone for my/our failures? We're simply trying to keep the White race from going extinct. We're not blaming minorities, we're simply looking inward - at ourselves - and saying, 'hey, maybe this isn't the way things should go for us'. We don't want to gas any Jews, we don't want to send people to camps, we simply want the right to continue to exist distinctly, as ourselves. That's all. In regards to why you should care about it: well, that's for you to decide. I've brought the national argument here, but there's no way for me to force anyone to care. Simply giving people the option via the spreading of the ideas of national unity, racial pride and survival.

Who is "we"?

 

[BlindBoo]

I've yet to see anyone address any part of my post. All you people seem to have done is hurl ad-hominem insults at me. If you can't debate my argument - that we, the White race, are going extinct and we should prevent that - then I accept your concession. If you'd prefer to not concede the argument, then address my argument, rather than insult me. Simple, no?

What is there to debate. the whole premise that the white race is going extinct is false. The white race is not going extinct. My parents, both white had 4 children. From us four we've produced 8 grand childrens, again all white. My folks only have one great-grand-baby (all white) so far but give um time.

How about coming up with something worthy of debating