American Fascism

[Agit8r]

Why yes, the religious right would have public trails and sentencing for those blasphemers if they had their whey...Might even put slogans about Gawd on our money...

This is the typical post of an apologist for Democrat's espousing fascism

a. You were afraid to comment on the OP....I'll call that an endorsement of Chisholm.

b. you engage in the default of every Liberal/Progressive/Democrat...and, as shown in the thread....fascist.
This bald-faced lie: 'the religious right would have public trails and sentencing for those blasphemers if they had their whey..."


You have truly become a bottom-feeder.

LOL

The 14 Characteristics of Fascism by Lawrence Britt Spring 2003

Fascism definition origins characteristics fascist state corporative state

14 Elements of Fascism DRUDGE RETORT

You understgand there is no standard definition of fascism, right? BUt it does seem to be opposed to individual liberty, and exalts the power of the state in solving problems. So today's Dems certainly qualify.

There may not be a comprehensive definition, but there are certainly examples of fascist thought to be cited:

"We have founded a system based on the most sincere foundation there is, namely: Form your life yourself! Work for your existence! Help yourself and God will help you!"
-- Adolf Hitler; from speech in Wilhelmshaven (Apr. 1, 1939)

"Let no one say that the picture produced as a first impression of human civilization is the impression of its achievement as a whole. This whole edifice of civilization is in its foundations and in all its stones nothing else than the result of the creative capacity, the achievement, the intelligence, the industry, of individuals: in its greatest triumphs it represents the great crowning achievement of individual God-favored geniuses"
-- Adolf Hitler; from speech to Dusseldorf Industry Club (Jan. 27, 1932)

"Secular schools can never be tolerated because such schools have no religious instruction, and a general moral instruction without a religious foundation is built on air; consequently, all character training and religion must be derived from faith"
-- Adolf Hitler; at Nazi-Vatican Concordat (Apr. 26, 1933)

"The National Government will regard it as its first and foremost duty to revive in the nation the spirit of unity and co-operation. It will preserve and defend those basic principles on which our nation has been built. It regards Christianity as the foundation of our national morality, and the family as the basis of national life"
-- Adolf Hitler; from national proclamation (Feb. 1, 1933)

"Whereas previously the programs of the liberal, intellectualist women's movements contained many points, the program of our National Socialist Women's movement has in reality but one single point, and that point is the child, that tiny creation which must be born and grow strong and which alone gives meaning to the whole life-struggle"
-- Adolf Hitler; from speech to the NS Frauenschaft (Sept. 8, 1934

"The Winterhilfswerk... was to call on the Volk to help itself. We could have done things differently. Instead of appealing to the Volk's willingness to sacrifice, we could have directed our appeal to the taxpayer. We consciously and deliberately did not do so because we wanted to educate the German Volk to come together in this common sacrifice, and therein to begin to understand the nature of the community; to comprehend the duties this community demands of us and to satisfy these of our own free accord without relying on the taxpayer."
-- Adolf Hitler; from speech at Berlin Sportpalast (October 10, 1939)

"Generation after generation of our Volk will march on thus in our history,
with this banner always in mind, this banner that places us under an obligation
to our Volk, its honor, its freedom, and our community — to our truly National
Socialist fraternity. They will then consider it only natural that this German Volk takes but the one path Providence has bade it take by giving these people a common language. We, therefore, go our way into the future with the deepest belief in God. Would all we have achieved been possible had Providence not helped us? I know that the fruits of human labor are hard-won and transitory if they are not blessed by the Omnipotent. Work such as ours which has received the blessings of the Omnipotent can never again be undone by mere mortals."
-- Adolf Hitler; from speech at Regensburg City Hall (June 6, 1937)

"The catchword 'Women's Liberation' is merely a phrase invented by the Jewish intellect, and its contents are marked by the same spirit. The German woman will never need to emancipate herself in an age supportive of German life."
-- Adolf Hitler; from speech to NS Frauenschaft (September 8, 1934)

"I am also religious, profoundly religious on the inside, and I believe that Providence weighs human beings. Those who do not pass the trials imposed by Providence, who are broken by them, are not destined by Providence for greater things. It is a natural necessity that only the strong remain after this selection."
-- Adolf Hitler; from Munich Löwenbräukeller (November 8, 1943)

"The life of the people must be freed from the asphyxiating perfume of our modern eroticism, as it must be from unmanly and prudish refusal to face facts. In all these things the aim and the method must be governed by the thought of preserving our nation's health both in body and soul"
-- from 'Mein Kampf'

"My German Volksgenossen, we have a great deal to rectify before our own history and before our eternal Lord. Providence had withdrawn its protection from us. Our Volk had fallen, plunging to a depth to which a Volk has rarely fallen before. In this difficult plight we have once again learned how to pray; we have learned to respect our Lord; we have regained our faith in the virtues of a Volk, and have endeavored to be better again."
-- Adolf Hitler; from speech in Cologne (March 28, 1936)

"In this hour, let us thank the Almighty who has blessed our paths in the past, and let us pray to Him: may He lead us forth onto the path of righteousness in the future as well."
-- Adolf Hitler; from speech in Eger (October 3, 1938)

"I know that Heaven does not bestow perfection upon men. Their lot is to earn all, hard and painfully. And I know that today this great goal is far from being achieved in full. But we strive for it with burning hearts, and Heaven and Providence have blessed our efforts."
-- Adolf Hitler; from speech in Saarbriicken (March 1, 1935)

"as long as we are loyal, honest and courageous in battle, as long as we believe in our great cause and do not capitulate, we will continue to enjoy the blessing of Providence."
-- Adolf Hitler; from speech in Rosenheim (August 11, 1935)

"Today I must bow down in thanks to Providence, whose mercy has enabled me, once an unknown soldier in the World War, to thus help our Volk to win the battle for the restoration of its honor and uprightness"
-- Adolf Hitler; from speech to the Reichstag (January 30, 1937)

"means for preventing a birth are offered for sale in every chemist's shop... what is in practice a cessation of fecundity in millions of our best people is not regarded as an evil or an offense against the morals of this sanctimonious society; it is instead a sop to its short-sighted slackness of thought. For if it were otherwise, they would have to rack their brains and consider how to make provision for nourishing and conserving the healthy representatives of our nation, who should perform a similar service for the benefit of generations to come."
-- from 'Mein Kampf'

"Were it not for the pact which the Center and the middle classes have entered into with Marxism as a result of their inner relatedness of character, there would be no red, anti-christian Germany today. Therefore they are the accursed accomplices of Bolshevism."
-- Adolf Hitler; from proclamation to Nazi Party (January 1, 1932)

"We were convinced that the people need and require this faith. We have therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement, and that not merely with a few theoretical declarations: we have stamped it out."
-- Adolf Hitler, from speech in Berlin (October 24, 1933)

I see you require a lesson in the totalitarian confluence......You should pick up Berman's "Terror and Liberalism," in which you will find the following:

1. Each of the movements adopted the same set of rites and symbols to express that ideal: crowds chanting en masse, the monumental architecture, the insistence on unquestioning belief in preposterous doctrines.

a. Each of the totalitarian movements chose its own monochrome symbol, representing the oneness of authority, in red, brown or black.

b. Each donned the identical uniform, - a shirt of red, brown or black.

c. Each recounted a theory about history and mankind, explaining the movement’s goals and actions.

2. The mythology of all of them, curiously enough, was based on the New Testament, specifically the Book of Revelation of St. John the Devine.

a. There is a people of God, and these are under attack, both from within (the city dwellers of Babylon, who have sunk into abominations) and from without (by the forces of Satan).

b. Resistance will result in the war of Armageddon…with the extermination of the evil ones. As will the devil’s force! But not without horrifying destruction.

c. Then, there will be the reign of Christ for a thousand years.


3. An “Ur-myth,” is a myth so ancient and so all-encompassing that it has become an irreducible part of the human experience, and is the basis for the tales that seem to give a patina of relevance to the movements. It is this ur-myth that represents the origins of the movement-myths, in its modern versions.

a. Sometime after the First World War, the Babylon-Armageddon made its way into political theory. Each version had a people of God, under attack. There was the proletariat for the Bolsheviks and Stalinists; the children of the Roman wolf for Mussolini’s Fascists; the Warriors of Christ the King for Franco’s Phalange, and the Aryan race for the Nazis.

b. There were always subversive dwellers of Babylon, good at trading various commodities, polluting society with their abominations. Bourgeoisie, kulaks, Freemasons and cosmopolitans, and, always, Jews. Aided, of course, by Satanic forces, variously identified as capitalists, or Americans and their technology ( Heidegger’s Nazi interpretation) or the international Jewish conspiracy.

c. The reign of God was always just ahead. The Age of the Proletariat (Bolsheviks and Stalinists); the resurrected Roman Empire (Fascists); the reign of Christ the King (Spanish Phalange); or a blond Aryan version of the Roman Empire, called the Third Reich (Nazis).

d. And the period of grace was going to be pure and perfect- cleansed of pollutants and abominations. Purity of unexploited labor (Bolsheviks and Stalinists); purity of Roman Grandeur (Fascists); the purity of Catholic virtue (Phalange); or the biological purity of Aryan blood (Nazis). And, always, to last for a thousand years: a perfect society- no flaws, no competition, no turmoil.

e. Of course, for all of the movements, it would be a one-party, unchallenged state, representing the final unity of mankind.

f. And the leader…a superman, a genius of geniuses, the one predicted by history, godlike- thrilling his worshipful followers… perhaps establishing a new religion….

g. Always, before the reign, there was going to be the war of Armageddon- the exterminating bloodbath! The class war (Bolsheviks and Stalinists); the Crusade (Fascists); of the race war (Nazis).

Revelation 19:21 “And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse,…”



Did you note how neatly Obama's variety of totalitarian fits in there?

How delusional are you? What about Obama has any similarity to any of that? You're going to have to give some examples (mostly because I could use a good laugh)

 

[Agit8r]

There may not be a comprehensive definition, but there are certainly examples of fascist thought to be cited:

"We have founded a system based on the most sincere foundation there is, namely: Form your life yourself! Work for your existence! Help yourself and God will help you!"
-- Adolf Hitler; from speech in Wilhelmshaven (Apr. 1, 1939)

"Let no one say that the picture produced as a first impression of human civilization is the impression of its achievement as a whole. This whole edifice of civilization is in its foundations and in all its stones nothing else than the result of the creative capacity, the achievement, the intelligence, the industry, of individuals: in its greatest triumphs it represents the great crowning achievement of individual God-favored geniuses"
-- Adolf Hitler; from speech to Dusseldorf Industry Club (Jan. 27, 1932)

"Secular schools can never be tolerated because such schools have no religious instruction, and a general moral instruction without a religious foundation is built on air; consequently, all character training and religion must be derived from faith"
-- Adolf Hitler; at Nazi-Vatican Concordat (Apr. 26, 1933)

"The National Government will regard it as its first and foremost duty to revive in the nation the spirit of unity and co-operation. It will preserve and defend those basic principles on which our nation has been built. It regards Christianity as the foundation of our national morality, and the family as the basis of national life"
-- Adolf Hitler; from national proclamation (Feb. 1, 1933)

"Whereas previously the programs of the liberal, intellectualist women's movements contained many points, the program of our National Socialist Women's movement has in reality but one single point, and that point is the child, that tiny creation which must be born and grow strong and which alone gives meaning to the whole life-struggle"
-- Adolf Hitler; from speech to the NS Frauenschaft (Sept. 8, 1934

"The Winterhilfswerk... was to call on the Volk to help itself. We could have done things differently. Instead of appealing to the Volk's willingness to sacrifice, we could have directed our appeal to the taxpayer. We consciously and deliberately did not do so because we wanted to educate the German Volk to come together in this common sacrifice, and therein to begin to understand the nature of the community; to comprehend the duties this community demands of us and to satisfy these of our own free accord without relying on the taxpayer."
-- Adolf Hitler; from speech at Berlin Sportpalast (October 10, 1939)

"Generation after generation of our Volk will march on thus in our history,
with this banner always in mind, this banner that places us under an obligation
to our Volk, its honor, its freedom, and our community — to our truly National
Socialist fraternity. They will then consider it only natural that this German Volk takes but the one path Providence has bade it take by giving these people a common language. We, therefore, go our way into the future with the deepest belief in God. Would all we have achieved been possible had Providence not helped us? I know that the fruits of human labor are hard-won and transitory if they are not blessed by the Omnipotent. Work such as ours which has received the blessings of the Omnipotent can never again be undone by mere mortals."
-- Adolf Hitler; from speech at Regensburg City Hall (June 6, 1937)

"The catchword 'Women's Liberation' is merely a phrase invented by the Jewish intellect, and its contents are marked by the same spirit. The German woman will never need to emancipate herself in an age supportive of German life."
-- Adolf Hitler; from speech to NS Frauenschaft (September 8, 1934)

"I am also religious, profoundly religious on the inside, and I believe that Providence weighs human beings. Those who do not pass the trials imposed by Providence, who are broken by them, are not destined by Providence for greater things. It is a natural necessity that only the strong remain after this selection."
-- Adolf Hitler; from Munich Löwenbräukeller (November 8, 1943)

"The life of the people must be freed from the asphyxiating perfume of our modern eroticism, as it must be from unmanly and prudish refusal to face facts. In all these things the aim and the method must be governed by the thought of preserving our nation's health both in body and soul"
-- from 'Mein Kampf'

"My German Volksgenossen, we have a great deal to rectify before our own history and before our eternal Lord. Providence had withdrawn its protection from us. Our Volk had fallen, plunging to a depth to which a Volk has rarely fallen before. In this difficult plight we have once again learned how to pray; we have learned to respect our Lord; we have regained our faith in the virtues of a Volk, and have endeavored to be better again."
-- Adolf Hitler; from speech in Cologne (March 28, 1936)

"In this hour, let us thank the Almighty who has blessed our paths in the past, and let us pray to Him: may He lead us forth onto the path of righteousness in the future as well."
-- Adolf Hitler; from speech in Eger (October 3, 1938)

"I know that Heaven does not bestow perfection upon men. Their lot is to earn all, hard and painfully. And I know that today this great goal is far from being achieved in full. But we strive for it with burning hearts, and Heaven and Providence have blessed our efforts."
-- Adolf Hitler; from speech in Saarbriicken (March 1, 1935)

"as long as we are loyal, honest and courageous in battle, as long as we believe in our great cause and do not capitulate, we will continue to enjoy the blessing of Providence."
-- Adolf Hitler; from speech in Rosenheim (August 11, 1935)

"Today I must bow down in thanks to Providence, whose mercy has enabled me, once an unknown soldier in the World War, to thus help our Volk to win the battle for the restoration of its honor and uprightness"
-- Adolf Hitler; from speech to the Reichstag (January 30, 1937)

"means for preventing a birth are offered for sale in every chemist's shop... what is in practice a cessation of fecundity in millions of our best people is not regarded as an evil or an offense against the morals of this sanctimonious society; it is instead a sop to its short-sighted slackness of thought. For if it were otherwise, they would have to rack their brains and consider how to make provision for nourishing and conserving the healthy representatives of our nation, who should perform a similar service for the benefit of generations to come."
-- from 'Mein Kampf'

"Were it not for the pact which the Center and the middle classes have entered into with Marxism as a result of their inner relatedness of character, there would be no red, anti-christian Germany today. Therefore they are the accursed accomplices of Bolshevism."
-- Adolf Hitler; from proclamation to Nazi Party (January 1, 1932)

"We were convinced that the people need and require this faith. We have therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement, and that not merely with a few theoretical declarations: we have stamped it out."
-- Adolf Hitler, from speech in Berlin (October 24, 1933)

Like Adolph Hitler was the only fascist who ever lived.

How bout Mussolini, then:

"I consider that a Government which means to relieve rapidly peoples from after-war crises should allow free play to private enterprise, should renounce any meddling or restrictive legislation, which may please the Socialist demagogues, but proves, in the end, as experience shows, absolutely ruinous"
-- Benito Mussolini; from speech to International Congress of the Chambers of Commerce (March 18, 1923)

Wait....you left out the Milwaukee Democrat District Attorney, John Chisholm.

Maybe he isn't a REAL liberal. See, that game works both ways

But, as you learned today....Liberals are fascists.

Then why is it people like you who say most of the exact same things that hitler did decades ago. Feel free to go through the list I provided, and tell me which of those things you have not said anything like. Maybe, what, like one or two?

 

[PoliticalChic]

This is the typical post of an apologist for Democrat's espousing fascism

a. You were afraid to comment on the OP....I'll call that an endorsement of Chisholm.

b. you engage in the default of every Liberal/Progressive/Democrat...and, as shown in the thread....fascist.
This bald-faced lie: 'the religious right would have public trails and sentencing for those blasphemers if they had their whey..."


You have truly become a bottom-feeder.

LOL

The 14 Characteristics of Fascism by Lawrence Britt Spring 2003

Fascism definition origins characteristics fascist state corporative state

14 Elements of Fascism DRUDGE RETORT

You understgand there is no standard definition of fascism, right? BUt it does seem to be opposed to individual liberty, and exalts the power of the state in solving problems. So today's Dems certainly qualify.

There may not be a comprehensive definition, but there are certainly examples of fascist thought to be cited:

"We have founded a system based on the most sincere foundation there is, namely: Form your life yourself! Work for your existence! Help yourself and God will help you!"
-- Adolf Hitler; from speech in Wilhelmshaven (Apr. 1, 1939)

"Let no one say that the picture produced as a first impression of human civilization is the impression of its achievement as a whole. This whole edifice of civilization is in its foundations and in all its stones nothing else than the result of the creative capacity, the achievement, the intelligence, the industry, of individuals: in its greatest triumphs it represents the great crowning achievement of individual God-favored geniuses"
-- Adolf Hitler; from speech to Dusseldorf Industry Club (Jan. 27, 1932)

"Secular schools can never be tolerated because such schools have no religious instruction, and a general moral instruction without a religious foundation is built on air; consequently, all character training and religion must be derived from faith"
-- Adolf Hitler; at Nazi-Vatican Concordat (Apr. 26, 1933)

"The National Government will regard it as its first and foremost duty to revive in the nation the spirit of unity and co-operation. It will preserve and defend those basic principles on which our nation has been built. It regards Christianity as the foundation of our national morality, and the family as the basis of national life"
-- Adolf Hitler; from national proclamation (Feb. 1, 1933)

"Whereas previously the programs of the liberal, intellectualist women's movements contained many points, the program of our National Socialist Women's movement has in reality but one single point, and that point is the child, that tiny creation which must be born and grow strong and which alone gives meaning to the whole life-struggle"
-- Adolf Hitler; from speech to the NS Frauenschaft (Sept. 8, 1934

"The Winterhilfswerk... was to call on the Volk to help itself. We could have done things differently. Instead of appealing to the Volk's willingness to sacrifice, we could have directed our appeal to the taxpayer. We consciously and deliberately did not do so because we wanted to educate the German Volk to come together in this common sacrifice, and therein to begin to understand the nature of the community; to comprehend the duties this community demands of us and to satisfy these of our own free accord without relying on the taxpayer."
-- Adolf Hitler; from speech at Berlin Sportpalast (October 10, 1939)

"Generation after generation of our Volk will march on thus in our history,
with this banner always in mind, this banner that places us under an obligation
to our Volk, its honor, its freedom, and our community — to our truly National
Socialist fraternity. They will then consider it only natural that this German Volk takes but the one path Providence has bade it take by giving these people a common language. We, therefore, go our way into the future with the deepest belief in God. Would all we have achieved been possible had Providence not helped us? I know that the fruits of human labor are hard-won and transitory if they are not blessed by the Omnipotent. Work such as ours which has received the blessings of the Omnipotent can never again be undone by mere mortals."
-- Adolf Hitler; from speech at Regensburg City Hall (June 6, 1937)

"The catchword 'Women's Liberation' is merely a phrase invented by the Jewish intellect, and its contents are marked by the same spirit. The German woman will never need to emancipate herself in an age supportive of German life."
-- Adolf Hitler; from speech to NS Frauenschaft (September 8, 1934)

"I am also religious, profoundly religious on the inside, and I believe that Providence weighs human beings. Those who do not pass the trials imposed by Providence, who are broken by them, are not destined by Providence for greater things. It is a natural necessity that only the strong remain after this selection."
-- Adolf Hitler; from Munich Löwenbräukeller (November 8, 1943)

"The life of the people must be freed from the asphyxiating perfume of our modern eroticism, as it must be from unmanly and prudish refusal to face facts. In all these things the aim and the method must be governed by the thought of preserving our nation's health both in body and soul"
-- from 'Mein Kampf'

"My German Volksgenossen, we have a great deal to rectify before our own history and before our eternal Lord. Providence had withdrawn its protection from us. Our Volk had fallen, plunging to a depth to which a Volk has rarely fallen before. In this difficult plight we have once again learned how to pray; we have learned to respect our Lord; we have regained our faith in the virtues of a Volk, and have endeavored to be better again."
-- Adolf Hitler; from speech in Cologne (March 28, 1936)

"In this hour, let us thank the Almighty who has blessed our paths in the past, and let us pray to Him: may He lead us forth onto the path of righteousness in the future as well."
-- Adolf Hitler; from speech in Eger (October 3, 1938)

"I know that Heaven does not bestow perfection upon men. Their lot is to earn all, hard and painfully. And I know that today this great goal is far from being achieved in full. But we strive for it with burning hearts, and Heaven and Providence have blessed our efforts."
-- Adolf Hitler; from speech in Saarbriicken (March 1, 1935)

"as long as we are loyal, honest and courageous in battle, as long as we believe in our great cause and do not capitulate, we will continue to enjoy the blessing of Providence."
-- Adolf Hitler; from speech in Rosenheim (August 11, 1935)

"Today I must bow down in thanks to Providence, whose mercy has enabled me, once an unknown soldier in the World War, to thus help our Volk to win the battle for the restoration of its honor and uprightness"
-- Adolf Hitler; from speech to the Reichstag (January 30, 1937)

"means for preventing a birth are offered for sale in every chemist's shop... what is in practice a cessation of fecundity in millions of our best people is not regarded as an evil or an offense against the morals of this sanctimonious society; it is instead a sop to its short-sighted slackness of thought. For if it were otherwise, they would have to rack their brains and consider how to make provision for nourishing and conserving the healthy representatives of our nation, who should perform a similar service for the benefit of generations to come."
-- from 'Mein Kampf'

"Were it not for the pact which the Center and the middle classes have entered into with Marxism as a result of their inner relatedness of character, there would be no red, anti-christian Germany today. Therefore they are the accursed accomplices of Bolshevism."
-- Adolf Hitler; from proclamation to Nazi Party (January 1, 1932)

"We were convinced that the people need and require this faith. We have therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement, and that not merely with a few theoretical declarations: we have stamped it out."
-- Adolf Hitler, from speech in Berlin (October 24, 1933)

I see you require a lesson in the totalitarian confluence......You should pick up Berman's "Terror and Liberalism," in which you will find the following:

1. Each of the movements adopted the same set of rites and symbols to express that ideal: crowds chanting en masse, the monumental architecture, the insistence on unquestioning belief in preposterous doctrines.

a. Each of the totalitarian movements chose its own monochrome symbol, representing the oneness of authority, in red, brown or black.

b. Each donned the identical uniform, - a shirt of red, brown or black.

c. Each recounted a theory about history and mankind, explaining the movement’s goals and actions.

2. The mythology of all of them, curiously enough, was based on the New Testament, specifically the Book of Revelation of St. John the Devine.

a. There is a people of God, and these are under attack, both from within (the city dwellers of Babylon, who have sunk into abominations) and from without (by the forces of Satan).

b. Resistance will result in the war of Armageddon…with the extermination of the evil ones. As will the devil’s force! But not without horrifying destruction.

c. Then, there will be the reign of Christ for a thousand years.


3. An “Ur-myth,” is a myth so ancient and so all-encompassing that it has become an irreducible part of the human experience, and is the basis for the tales that seem to give a patina of relevance to the movements. It is this ur-myth that represents the origins of the movement-myths, in its modern versions.

a. Sometime after the First World War, the Babylon-Armageddon made its way into political theory. Each version had a people of God, under attack. There was the proletariat for the Bolsheviks and Stalinists; the children of the Roman wolf for Mussolini’s Fascists; the Warriors of Christ the King for Franco’s Phalange, and the Aryan race for the Nazis.

b. There were always subversive dwellers of Babylon, good at trading various commodities, polluting society with their abominations. Bourgeoisie, kulaks, Freemasons and cosmopolitans, and, always, Jews. Aided, of course, by Satanic forces, variously identified as capitalists, or Americans and their technology ( Heidegger’s Nazi interpretation) or the international Jewish conspiracy.

c. The reign of God was always just ahead. The Age of the Proletariat (Bolsheviks and Stalinists); the resurrected Roman Empire (Fascists); the reign of Christ the King (Spanish Phalange); or a blond Aryan version of the Roman Empire, called the Third Reich (Nazis).

d. And the period of grace was going to be pure and perfect- cleansed of pollutants and abominations. Purity of unexploited labor (Bolsheviks and Stalinists); purity of Roman Grandeur (Fascists); the purity of Catholic virtue (Phalange); or the biological purity of Aryan blood (Nazis). And, always, to last for a thousand years: a perfect society- no flaws, no competition, no turmoil.

e. Of course, for all of the movements, it would be a one-party, unchallenged state, representing the final unity of mankind.

f. And the leader…a superman, a genius of geniuses, the one predicted by history, godlike- thrilling his worshipful followers… perhaps establishing a new religion….

g. Always, before the reign, there was going to be the war of Armageddon- the exterminating bloodbath! The class war (Bolsheviks and Stalinists); the Crusade (Fascists); of the race war (Nazis).

Revelation 19:21 “And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse,…”



Did you note how neatly Obama's variety of totalitarian fits in there?

How delusional are you? What about Obama has any similarity to any of that? You're going to have to give some examples (mostly because I could use a good laugh)

f. And the leader…a superman, a genius of geniuses, the one predicted by history, godlike- thrilling his worshipful followers… perhaps establishing a new religion….


Oprah calls Obama "The One"

 

[PoliticalChic]

Like Adolph Hitler was the only fascist who ever lived.

How bout Mussolini, then:

"I consider that a Government which means to relieve rapidly peoples from after-war crises should allow free play to private enterprise, should renounce any meddling or restrictive legislation, which may please the Socialist demagogues, but proves, in the end, as experience shows, absolutely ruinous"
-- Benito Mussolini; from speech to International Congress of the Chambers of Commerce (March 18, 1923)

Wait....you left out the Milwaukee Democrat District Attorney, John Chisholm.

Maybe he isn't a REAL liberal. See, that game works both ways

But, as you learned today....Liberals are fascists.

Then why is it people like you who say most of the exact same things that hitler did decades ago. Feel free to go through the list I provided, and tell me which of those things you have not said anything like. Maybe, what, like one or two?

"...people like you..."
WHAT???
Be serious.
There are no others.


Don't you want to comment on my amazing grasp of the subject? My understated wit? Please don't mention my spectacular good looks (just kiddng- go ahead and mention them.)

Here's a plan: why don't you find anything in my posts that isn't the case.

 

[kiwiman127]

Wake me up when PC brings in FDR into the discussion.

Amusing how you Leftist run to post anything other than substantive posts when I skewer the Liberals, Progressives, or Democrats.


Keep up the good work.

PC, are you being redundant again? (See posts 49 & 50)
In my case, I was just trying to help you out, you know, trying to fire you up by using one of your obsessions (FDR).
I tell ya, PC you just don't appreciate my assistance. I'm hurt.

 

[Agit8r]

LOL

The 14 Characteristics of Fascism by Lawrence Britt Spring 2003

Fascism definition origins characteristics fascist state corporative state

14 Elements of Fascism DRUDGE RETORT

You understgand there is no standard definition of fascism, right? BUt it does seem to be opposed to individual liberty, and exalts the power of the state in solving problems. So today's Dems certainly qualify.

There may not be a comprehensive definition, but there are certainly examples of fascist thought to be cited:

"We have founded a system based on the most sincere foundation there is, namely: Form your life yourself! Work for your existence! Help yourself and God will help you!"
-- Adolf Hitler; from speech in Wilhelmshaven (Apr. 1, 1939)

"Let no one say that the picture produced as a first impression of human civilization is the impression of its achievement as a whole. This whole edifice of civilization is in its foundations and in all its stones nothing else than the result of the creative capacity, the achievement, the intelligence, the industry, of individuals: in its greatest triumphs it represents the great crowning achievement of individual God-favored geniuses"
-- Adolf Hitler; from speech to Dusseldorf Industry Club (Jan. 27, 1932)

"Secular schools can never be tolerated because such schools have no religious instruction, and a general moral instruction without a religious foundation is built on air; consequently, all character training and religion must be derived from faith"
-- Adolf Hitler; at Nazi-Vatican Concordat (Apr. 26, 1933)

"The National Government will regard it as its first and foremost duty to revive in the nation the spirit of unity and co-operation. It will preserve and defend those basic principles on which our nation has been built. It regards Christianity as the foundation of our national morality, and the family as the basis of national life"
-- Adolf Hitler; from national proclamation (Feb. 1, 1933)

"Whereas previously the programs of the liberal, intellectualist women's movements contained many points, the program of our National Socialist Women's movement has in reality but one single point, and that point is the child, that tiny creation which must be born and grow strong and which alone gives meaning to the whole life-struggle"
-- Adolf Hitler; from speech to the NS Frauenschaft (Sept. 8, 1934

"The Winterhilfswerk... was to call on the Volk to help itself. We could have done things differently. Instead of appealing to the Volk's willingness to sacrifice, we could have directed our appeal to the taxpayer. We consciously and deliberately did not do so because we wanted to educate the German Volk to come together in this common sacrifice, and therein to begin to understand the nature of the community; to comprehend the duties this community demands of us and to satisfy these of our own free accord without relying on the taxpayer."
-- Adolf Hitler; from speech at Berlin Sportpalast (October 10, 1939)

"Generation after generation of our Volk will march on thus in our history,
with this banner always in mind, this banner that places us under an obligation
to our Volk, its honor, its freedom, and our community — to our truly National
Socialist fraternity. They will then consider it only natural that this German Volk takes but the one path Providence has bade it take by giving these people a common language. We, therefore, go our way into the future with the deepest belief in God. Would all we have achieved been possible had Providence not helped us? I know that the fruits of human labor are hard-won and transitory if they are not blessed by the Omnipotent. Work such as ours which has received the blessings of the Omnipotent can never again be undone by mere mortals."
-- Adolf Hitler; from speech at Regensburg City Hall (June 6, 1937)

"The catchword 'Women's Liberation' is merely a phrase invented by the Jewish intellect, and its contents are marked by the same spirit. The German woman will never need to emancipate herself in an age supportive of German life."
-- Adolf Hitler; from speech to NS Frauenschaft (September 8, 1934)

"I am also religious, profoundly religious on the inside, and I believe that Providence weighs human beings. Those who do not pass the trials imposed by Providence, who are broken by them, are not destined by Providence for greater things. It is a natural necessity that only the strong remain after this selection."
-- Adolf Hitler; from Munich Löwenbräukeller (November 8, 1943)

"The life of the people must be freed from the asphyxiating perfume of our modern eroticism, as it must be from unmanly and prudish refusal to face facts. In all these things the aim and the method must be governed by the thought of preserving our nation's health both in body and soul"
-- from 'Mein Kampf'

"My German Volksgenossen, we have a great deal to rectify before our own history and before our eternal Lord. Providence had withdrawn its protection from us. Our Volk had fallen, plunging to a depth to which a Volk has rarely fallen before. In this difficult plight we have once again learned how to pray; we have learned to respect our Lord; we have regained our faith in the virtues of a Volk, and have endeavored to be better again."
-- Adolf Hitler; from speech in Cologne (March 28, 1936)

"In this hour, let us thank the Almighty who has blessed our paths in the past, and let us pray to Him: may He lead us forth onto the path of righteousness in the future as well."
-- Adolf Hitler; from speech in Eger (October 3, 1938)

"I know that Heaven does not bestow perfection upon men. Their lot is to earn all, hard and painfully. And I know that today this great goal is far from being achieved in full. But we strive for it with burning hearts, and Heaven and Providence have blessed our efforts."
-- Adolf Hitler; from speech in Saarbriicken (March 1, 1935)

"as long as we are loyal, honest and courageous in battle, as long as we believe in our great cause and do not capitulate, we will continue to enjoy the blessing of Providence."
-- Adolf Hitler; from speech in Rosenheim (August 11, 1935)

"Today I must bow down in thanks to Providence, whose mercy has enabled me, once an unknown soldier in the World War, to thus help our Volk to win the battle for the restoration of its honor and uprightness"
-- Adolf Hitler; from speech to the Reichstag (January 30, 1937)

"means for preventing a birth are offered for sale in every chemist's shop... what is in practice a cessation of fecundity in millions of our best people is not regarded as an evil or an offense against the morals of this sanctimonious society; it is instead a sop to its short-sighted slackness of thought. For if it were otherwise, they would have to rack their brains and consider how to make provision for nourishing and conserving the healthy representatives of our nation, who should perform a similar service for the benefit of generations to come."
-- from 'Mein Kampf'

"Were it not for the pact which the Center and the middle classes have entered into with Marxism as a result of their inner relatedness of character, there would be no red, anti-christian Germany today. Therefore they are the accursed accomplices of Bolshevism."
-- Adolf Hitler; from proclamation to Nazi Party (January 1, 1932)

"We were convinced that the people need and require this faith. We have therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement, and that not merely with a few theoretical declarations: we have stamped it out."
-- Adolf Hitler, from speech in Berlin (October 24, 1933)

I see you require a lesson in the totalitarian confluence......You should pick up Berman's "Terror and Liberalism," in which you will find the following:

1. Each of the movements adopted the same set of rites and symbols to express that ideal: crowds chanting en masse, the monumental architecture, the insistence on unquestioning belief in preposterous doctrines.

a. Each of the totalitarian movements chose its own monochrome symbol, representing the oneness of authority, in red, brown or black.

b. Each donned the identical uniform, - a shirt of red, brown or black.

c. Each recounted a theory about history and mankind, explaining the movement’s goals and actions.

2. The mythology of all of them, curiously enough, was based on the New Testament, specifically the Book of Revelation of St. John the Devine.

a. There is a people of God, and these are under attack, both from within (the city dwellers of Babylon, who have sunk into abominations) and from without (by the forces of Satan).

b. Resistance will result in the war of Armageddon…with the extermination of the evil ones. As will the devil’s force! But not without horrifying destruction.

c. Then, there will be the reign of Christ for a thousand years.


3. An “Ur-myth,” is a myth so ancient and so all-encompassing that it has become an irreducible part of the human experience, and is the basis for the tales that seem to give a patina of relevance to the movements. It is this ur-myth that represents the origins of the movement-myths, in its modern versions.

a. Sometime after the First World War, the Babylon-Armageddon made its way into political theory. Each version had a people of God, under attack. There was the proletariat for the Bolsheviks and Stalinists; the children of the Roman wolf for Mussolini’s Fascists; the Warriors of Christ the King for Franco’s Phalange, and the Aryan race for the Nazis.

b. There were always subversive dwellers of Babylon, good at trading various commodities, polluting society with their abominations. Bourgeoisie, kulaks, Freemasons and cosmopolitans, and, always, Jews. Aided, of course, by Satanic forces, variously identified as capitalists, or Americans and their technology ( Heidegger’s Nazi interpretation) or the international Jewish conspiracy.

c. The reign of God was always just ahead. The Age of the Proletariat (Bolsheviks and Stalinists); the resurrected Roman Empire (Fascists); the reign of Christ the King (Spanish Phalange); or a blond Aryan version of the Roman Empire, called the Third Reich (Nazis).

d. And the period of grace was going to be pure and perfect- cleansed of pollutants and abominations. Purity of unexploited labor (Bolsheviks and Stalinists); purity of Roman Grandeur (Fascists); the purity of Catholic virtue (Phalange); or the biological purity of Aryan blood (Nazis). And, always, to last for a thousand years: a perfect society- no flaws, no competition, no turmoil.

e. Of course, for all of the movements, it would be a one-party, unchallenged state, representing the final unity of mankind.

f. And the leader…a superman, a genius of geniuses, the one predicted by history, godlike- thrilling his worshipful followers… perhaps establishing a new religion….

g. Always, before the reign, there was going to be the war of Armageddon- the exterminating bloodbath! The class war (Bolsheviks and Stalinists); the Crusade (Fascists); of the race war (Nazis).

Revelation 19:21 “And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse,…”



Did you note how neatly Obama's variety of totalitarian fits in there?

How delusional are you? What about Obama has any similarity to any of that? You're going to have to give some examples (mostly because I could use a good laugh)

f. And the leader…a superman, a genius of geniuses, the one predicted by history, godlike- thrilling his worshipful followers… perhaps establishing a new religion….


Oprah calls Obama "The One"

Most liberals do not consider Obama to have any superhuman qualities, and he has never claimed such. Please continue with the other examples.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Wake me up when PC brings in FDR into the discussion.

Amusing how you Leftist run to post anything other than substantive posts when I skewer the Liberals, Progressives, or Democrats.


Keep up the good work.

PC, are you being redundant again? (See posts 49 & 50)
In my case, I was just trying to help you out, you know, trying to fire you up by using one of your obsessions (FDR).
I tell ya, PC you just don't appreciate my assistance. I'm hurt.

Here...let me help you out....
...which way did you come in?

 

[Agit8r]

How bout Mussolini, then:

"I consider that a Government which means to relieve rapidly peoples from after-war crises should allow free play to private enterprise, should renounce any meddling or restrictive legislation, which may please the Socialist demagogues, but proves, in the end, as experience shows, absolutely ruinous"
-- Benito Mussolini; from speech to International Congress of the Chambers of Commerce (March 18, 1923)

Wait....you left out the Milwaukee Democrat District Attorney, John Chisholm.

Maybe he isn't a REAL liberal. See, that game works both ways

But, as you learned today....Liberals are fascists.

Then why is it people like you who say most of the exact same things that hitler did decades ago. Feel free to go through the list I provided, and tell me which of those things you have not said anything like. Maybe, what, like one or two?

"...people like you..."
WHAT???
Be serious.
There are no others.


Don't you want to comment on my amazing grasp of the subject? My understated wit? Please don't mention my spectacular good looks (just kiddng- go ahead and mention them.)

Here's a plan: why don't you find anything in my posts that isn't the case.

You have a good grasp of far-right propaganda, and absolutely nothing else. This is displayed by your inability to cite neutral sources to back up your ridiculous claims.

 

[kiwiman127]

How bout Mussolini, then:

"I consider that a Government which means to relieve rapidly peoples from after-war crises should allow free play to private enterprise, should renounce any meddling or restrictive legislation, which may please the Socialist demagogues, but proves, in the end, as experience shows, absolutely ruinous"
-- Benito Mussolini; from speech to International Congress of the Chambers of Commerce (March 18, 1923)

Wait....you left out the Milwaukee Democrat District Attorney, John Chisholm.

Maybe he isn't a REAL liberal. See, that game works both ways

But, as you learned today....Liberals are fascists.

Then why is it people like you who say most of the exact same things that hitler did decades ago. Feel free to go through the list I provided, and tell me which of those things you have not said anything like. Maybe, what, like one or two?

"...people like you..."
WHAT???
Be serious.
There are no others.


Don't you want to comment on my amazing grasp of the subject? My understated wit? Please don't mention my spectacular good looks (just kiddng- go ahead and mention them.)

Here's a plan: why don't you find anything in my posts that isn't the case.

And I thought "O" was a the chief narcissist? Wrong! It's our little PC.

 

[PoliticalChic]

You understgand there is no standard definition of fascism, right? BUt it does seem to be opposed to individual liberty, and exalts the power of the state in solving problems. So today's Dems certainly qualify.

There may not be a comprehensive definition, but there are certainly examples of fascist thought to be cited:

"We have founded a system based on the most sincere foundation there is, namely: Form your life yourself! Work for your existence! Help yourself and God will help you!"
-- Adolf Hitler; from speech in Wilhelmshaven (Apr. 1, 1939)

"Let no one say that the picture produced as a first impression of human civilization is the impression of its achievement as a whole. This whole edifice of civilization is in its foundations and in all its stones nothing else than the result of the creative capacity, the achievement, the intelligence, the industry, of individuals: in its greatest triumphs it represents the great crowning achievement of individual God-favored geniuses"
-- Adolf Hitler; from speech to Dusseldorf Industry Club (Jan. 27, 1932)

"Secular schools can never be tolerated because such schools have no religious instruction, and a general moral instruction without a religious foundation is built on air; consequently, all character training and religion must be derived from faith"
-- Adolf Hitler; at Nazi-Vatican Concordat (Apr. 26, 1933)

"The National Government will regard it as its first and foremost duty to revive in the nation the spirit of unity and co-operation. It will preserve and defend those basic principles on which our nation has been built. It regards Christianity as the foundation of our national morality, and the family as the basis of national life"
-- Adolf Hitler; from national proclamation (Feb. 1, 1933)

"Whereas previously the programs of the liberal, intellectualist women's movements contained many points, the program of our National Socialist Women's movement has in reality but one single point, and that point is the child, that tiny creation which must be born and grow strong and which alone gives meaning to the whole life-struggle"
-- Adolf Hitler; from speech to the NS Frauenschaft (Sept. 8, 1934

"The Winterhilfswerk... was to call on the Volk to help itself. We could have done things differently. Instead of appealing to the Volk's willingness to sacrifice, we could have directed our appeal to the taxpayer. We consciously and deliberately did not do so because we wanted to educate the German Volk to come together in this common sacrifice, and therein to begin to understand the nature of the community; to comprehend the duties this community demands of us and to satisfy these of our own free accord without relying on the taxpayer."
-- Adolf Hitler; from speech at Berlin Sportpalast (October 10, 1939)

"Generation after generation of our Volk will march on thus in our history,
with this banner always in mind, this banner that places us under an obligation
to our Volk, its honor, its freedom, and our community — to our truly National
Socialist fraternity. They will then consider it only natural that this German Volk takes but the one path Providence has bade it take by giving these people a common language. We, therefore, go our way into the future with the deepest belief in God. Would all we have achieved been possible had Providence not helped us? I know that the fruits of human labor are hard-won and transitory if they are not blessed by the Omnipotent. Work such as ours which has received the blessings of the Omnipotent can never again be undone by mere mortals."
-- Adolf Hitler; from speech at Regensburg City Hall (June 6, 1937)

"The catchword 'Women's Liberation' is merely a phrase invented by the Jewish intellect, and its contents are marked by the same spirit. The German woman will never need to emancipate herself in an age supportive of German life."
-- Adolf Hitler; from speech to NS Frauenschaft (September 8, 1934)

"I am also religious, profoundly religious on the inside, and I believe that Providence weighs human beings. Those who do not pass the trials imposed by Providence, who are broken by them, are not destined by Providence for greater things. It is a natural necessity that only the strong remain after this selection."
-- Adolf Hitler; from Munich Löwenbräukeller (November 8, 1943)

"The life of the people must be freed from the asphyxiating perfume of our modern eroticism, as it must be from unmanly and prudish refusal to face facts. In all these things the aim and the method must be governed by the thought of preserving our nation's health both in body and soul"
-- from 'Mein Kampf'

"My German Volksgenossen, we have a great deal to rectify before our own history and before our eternal Lord. Providence had withdrawn its protection from us. Our Volk had fallen, plunging to a depth to which a Volk has rarely fallen before. In this difficult plight we have once again learned how to pray; we have learned to respect our Lord; we have regained our faith in the virtues of a Volk, and have endeavored to be better again."
-- Adolf Hitler; from speech in Cologne (March 28, 1936)

"In this hour, let us thank the Almighty who has blessed our paths in the past, and let us pray to Him: may He lead us forth onto the path of righteousness in the future as well."
-- Adolf Hitler; from speech in Eger (October 3, 1938)

"I know that Heaven does not bestow perfection upon men. Their lot is to earn all, hard and painfully. And I know that today this great goal is far from being achieved in full. But we strive for it with burning hearts, and Heaven and Providence have blessed our efforts."
-- Adolf Hitler; from speech in Saarbriicken (March 1, 1935)

"as long as we are loyal, honest and courageous in battle, as long as we believe in our great cause and do not capitulate, we will continue to enjoy the blessing of Providence."
-- Adolf Hitler; from speech in Rosenheim (August 11, 1935)

"Today I must bow down in thanks to Providence, whose mercy has enabled me, once an unknown soldier in the World War, to thus help our Volk to win the battle for the restoration of its honor and uprightness"
-- Adolf Hitler; from speech to the Reichstag (January 30, 1937)

"means for preventing a birth are offered for sale in every chemist's shop... what is in practice a cessation of fecundity in millions of our best people is not regarded as an evil or an offense against the morals of this sanctimonious society; it is instead a sop to its short-sighted slackness of thought. For if it were otherwise, they would have to rack their brains and consider how to make provision for nourishing and conserving the healthy representatives of our nation, who should perform a similar service for the benefit of generations to come."
-- from 'Mein Kampf'

"Were it not for the pact which the Center and the middle classes have entered into with Marxism as a result of their inner relatedness of character, there would be no red, anti-christian Germany today. Therefore they are the accursed accomplices of Bolshevism."
-- Adolf Hitler; from proclamation to Nazi Party (January 1, 1932)

"We were convinced that the people need and require this faith. We have therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement, and that not merely with a few theoretical declarations: we have stamped it out."
-- Adolf Hitler, from speech in Berlin (October 24, 1933)

I see you require a lesson in the totalitarian confluence......You should pick up Berman's "Terror and Liberalism," in which you will find the following:

1. Each of the movements adopted the same set of rites and symbols to express that ideal: crowds chanting en masse, the monumental architecture, the insistence on unquestioning belief in preposterous doctrines.

a. Each of the totalitarian movements chose its own monochrome symbol, representing the oneness of authority, in red, brown or black.

b. Each donned the identical uniform, - a shirt of red, brown or black.

c. Each recounted a theory about history and mankind, explaining the movement’s goals and actions.

2. The mythology of all of them, curiously enough, was based on the New Testament, specifically the Book of Revelation of St. John the Devine.

a. There is a people of God, and these are under attack, both from within (the city dwellers of Babylon, who have sunk into abominations) and from without (by the forces of Satan).

b. Resistance will result in the war of Armageddon…with the extermination of the evil ones. As will the devil’s force! But not without horrifying destruction.

c. Then, there will be the reign of Christ for a thousand years.


3. An “Ur-myth,” is a myth so ancient and so all-encompassing that it has become an irreducible part of the human experience, and is the basis for the tales that seem to give a patina of relevance to the movements. It is this ur-myth that represents the origins of the movement-myths, in its modern versions.

a. Sometime after the First World War, the Babylon-Armageddon made its way into political theory. Each version had a people of God, under attack. There was the proletariat for the Bolsheviks and Stalinists; the children of the Roman wolf for Mussolini’s Fascists; the Warriors of Christ the King for Franco’s Phalange, and the Aryan race for the Nazis.

b. There were always subversive dwellers of Babylon, good at trading various commodities, polluting society with their abominations. Bourgeoisie, kulaks, Freemasons and cosmopolitans, and, always, Jews. Aided, of course, by Satanic forces, variously identified as capitalists, or Americans and their technology ( Heidegger’s Nazi interpretation) or the international Jewish conspiracy.

c. The reign of God was always just ahead. The Age of the Proletariat (Bolsheviks and Stalinists); the resurrected Roman Empire (Fascists); the reign of Christ the King (Spanish Phalange); or a blond Aryan version of the Roman Empire, called the Third Reich (Nazis).

d. And the period of grace was going to be pure and perfect- cleansed of pollutants and abominations. Purity of unexploited labor (Bolsheviks and Stalinists); purity of Roman Grandeur (Fascists); the purity of Catholic virtue (Phalange); or the biological purity of Aryan blood (Nazis). And, always, to last for a thousand years: a perfect society- no flaws, no competition, no turmoil.

e. Of course, for all of the movements, it would be a one-party, unchallenged state, representing the final unity of mankind.

f. And the leader…a superman, a genius of geniuses, the one predicted by history, godlike- thrilling his worshipful followers… perhaps establishing a new religion….

g. Always, before the reign, there was going to be the war of Armageddon- the exterminating bloodbath! The class war (Bolsheviks and Stalinists); the Crusade (Fascists); of the race war (Nazis).

Revelation 19:21 “And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse,…”



Did you note how neatly Obama's variety of totalitarian fits in there?

How delusional are you? What about Obama has any similarity to any of that? You're going to have to give some examples (mostly because I could use a good laugh)

f. And the leader…a superman, a genius of geniuses, the one predicted by history, godlike- thrilling his worshipful followers… perhaps establishing a new religion….


Oprah calls Obama "The One"

Most liberals do not consider Obama to have any superhuman qualities, and he has never claimed such. Please continue with the other examples.

You really sound like either a liar or a dolt.....you can pick which one.

Time to smash the custard pie in your kisser:

Liberals called him the messiah, compared him to Jesus.....God.....



a.He claimed, at his nomination, that this would be “the moment when the rise of the oceans would begin to slow and our planet begin to heal.” Barack Obama’s victory speech, June 3, 2008 The day will come when we look back at this display of hubris and narcissism, and the complicity of the public which found him more popular than Jesus Christ, Martin Luther King, and Mother Teresa (January 2009 poll found in ‘Christianity Today,’ February 22, 2009) as astounding.


b. David Cordero, 24, made the sculpture for his senior show after noticing all the attention Obama has received: "All of this is a response to what I've been witnessing and hearing, this idea that Barack is sort of a potential savior that might come and absolve the country of all its sins," Cordero said.Sculpture of Obama as Jesus causes stir - politics - Decision '08 - Barack Obama News - msnbc.com

c. Michelle Obama told the estimated crowd of 450 people that her husband is "the kind of president this country deserves. "
Obama closed by asking the crowd three times: "Are you in?"
She responded to her own question by saying: "Because I am so in."

"We have an amazing story to tell," she said. "This president has brought us out of the dark and into the light."
Source: Michelle Obama, Campaign rally. April 17, 2012.

d. In its November 22, 2010 issue, Obama has been shown by Newsweek on its cover page with multiple arms balancing several policy issues while raising his left leg mimicking the cosmic dance of the Hindu deity; considered a manifestation of Lord Shiva.
... Newsweek has named Obama "god of all things" on its cover.
SOURCE: Times of India (November 20, 2010).

e. Rabbi David Saperstein, reading from Psalms in English and Hebrew, noticed from the altar that the good men and women of the congregation that day, including the Bidens and other dignitaries, had not yet stood. Finally Bishop Vashti McKenzie of the African Methodist Church asked that everyone rise. At that moment Saperstein saw something from his angle of vision: "If I had seen it in a movie I would have groaned and said, 'Give me a break. That's so trite.'" A beam of morning light shown [sic] through the stained-glass windows and illuminated the president-elect's face. Several of the clergy and choir on the altar who also saw it marveled afterward about the presence of the Divine.
The Promise: President Obama, Year One, by Jonathan Alter.
(Simon & Schuster, May 2010 - p. 102)

f. He is provocative in insisting on an outstretched hand, where others only see animosity.
His tangible results in the short time that he has been active – are few and far between. His greatest results have been created with words and speeches – words that remain in the consciousness of their audience and have long-term effects.

He comes from humble beginnings and defends the weak and vulnerable, because he can identify himself with their conditions.

And no we are not thinking of Jesus Christ, whose birthday has just been celebrated - - but rather the President of the United States Barack Hussein Obama. [...]
Today, his historic Health Reform is being passed through the American Senate – a welfare policy breakthrough that several of his predecessors have been unable to manage. [...]

On the other hand, we have Jesus’ miracles that everyone still remembers, but which only benefitted a few.

Obama is, of course, greater than Jesus –
Source: "Obama greater than Jesus" Politiken Editorial [Denmark] December 29, 2009.

g. The White House released a photo of Obama with a halo around his head:Photostream: Business and Pleasure in August | The White House

h. "Obama is standing above the country, above the world. He's sort of GOD."

"In a way Obama is standing above the country, above the world. He's sort of GOD. He's going to bring all different sides together."

- Newsweek editor Evan Thomas

i. EAST POINT, Ga.—The day after Barack Obama was elected president, Larry Younginer knelt in front of the congregants at his suburban Atlanta church and offered a prayer of thanks.
"Lord, we have again come to you in prayer, and you have heard our cries from heaven, and you have sent us again from the state called Illinois, a man called Barack to heal our land," said Younginer, a 62-year-old retired information systems worker at Coca Cola in Atlanta. "We pray that you will build a hedge around him that will protect him from those who would do him harm."
"No one saw him coming, and Christians believe God comes at us from strange angles and places we don't expect, like Jesus being born in a manger."

Some see God's will in Obama win, by Dahleen Glanton. Chicago Tribune November 29, 2008.Is Barack Obama the Messiah?

__________________

Spike Lee said President BarackObama is "not perfect," but that expectations for his first term"were way too high."

“Hewasasavior,blackJesus,”the actor-director told CNN's Don Lemon in an interview airing in its entirety Saturday.“Look, I don't care who it was. Expectations were way too high.”
Spike Lee Barack Obama is not perfect - POLITICO.com


Community Organizers pray to Obama:



12/17/13 "On CNN’sPiers Morgan LiveTuesday, in a brief discussion about President Obama, Barbara Walters actually said, “We thought that he was going to be - I shouldn't say this at Christmastime, but - the next messiah”

Read more:Barbara Walters on Obama We Thought He Was Going To Be The Next Messiah

 

[PoliticalChic]

Wait....you left out the Milwaukee Democrat District Attorney, John Chisholm.

Maybe he isn't a REAL liberal. See, that game works both ways

But, as you learned today....Liberals are fascists.

Then why is it people like you who say most of the exact same things that hitler did decades ago. Feel free to go through the list I provided, and tell me which of those things you have not said anything like. Maybe, what, like one or two?

"...people like you..."
WHAT???
Be serious.
There are no others.


Don't you want to comment on my amazing grasp of the subject? My understated wit? Please don't mention my spectacular good looks (just kiddng- go ahead and mention them.)

Here's a plan: why don't you find anything in my posts that isn't the case.

And I thought "O" was a the chief narcissist? Wrong! It's our little PC.

[curtsy]

 

[BluesLegend]

The gay marriage thing is another...

I see you have proven to be a train hopping pigeon hole poster also...Since the GOP is all angel wings and halo's, it has to be, I have never seen a thread dismantling the corruption that occurs in the GOP, by a GOP member...Which can only mean one thing...Myopic ideologues..

And yet you do not provide examples of GOP corruption to back up your claims. I have no doubt there is some level of corruption within the GOP its run by RINO's. But the left on this forum constantly tries to deflect from and excuse actual examples of the left's corruption by claiming the GOP is corrupt too without ever providing any examples, why?

Because you should at least know what you guys are up to , we do and the bad dem ones..

We are still waiting for examples, I guess you have none. Are you proposing that GOP corruption is on par with, equal to liberal corruption? If so I think you will lose that comparison badly.

 

[Wry Catcher]

New Democrat bumper-sticker: "Speak Up And Be Put Down!"
Where have we seen this in recent history?
You know where.




7. " ...the raids here were in some ways worse even than the abusive raids we so often see in the drug war and other criminal investigations.

Here, the [Democrat/Liberal] DA was often investigating “crimes” that weren’t crimes at all but rather constitutionally protected issue advocacy.

Even when the DA was ostensibly investigating actual potential criminal misconduct, his targets were chosen not so much on the basis of actual evidence but rather proximity to the hated Scott Walker.



Also, few (if any) victims of unjust police raids are slapped with secrecy orders that prevent them from not only defending themselves publicly but also from sharing the burden of the experience with friends and family." Wisconsin s Shame Even Salon Agrees the Raids Were Wrong National Review Online




It is not the methods of fascism that Democrats deny....it is only the name.

" Fascism did not acquire an evil name in Washington until Hitler became a menace to·the Soviet Union."
Manly, "The Twenty Year Revolution," p. 48

Why yes, the religious right would have public trails and sentencing for those blasphemers if they had their whey...Might even put slogans about Gawd on our money...

This is the typical post of an apologist for Democrat's espousing fascism

a. You were afraid to comment on the OP....I'll call that an endorsement of Chisholm.

b. you engage in the default of every Liberal/Progressive/Democrat...and, as shown in the thread....fascist.
This bald-faced lie: 'the religious right would have public trails and sentencing for those blasphemers if they had their whey..."


You have truly become a bottom-feeder.

LOL

The 14 Characteristics of Fascism by Lawrence Britt Spring 2003

Fascism definition origins characteristics fascist state corporative state

14 Elements of Fascism DRUDGE RETORT

You understgand there is no standard definition of fascism, right? BUt it does seem to be opposed to individual liberty, and exalts the power of the state in solving problems. So today's Dems certainly qualify.

Really? It seems the standard is proposed in the three links posted above. You may disagree, as you have, but your opinion is worthless - being a dishonest partisan hack an all.

 

[Agit8r]

The gay marriage thing is another...

I see you have proven to be a train hopping pigeon hole poster also...Since the GOP is all angel wings and halo's, it has to be, I have never seen a thread dismantling the corruption that occurs in the GOP, by a GOP member...Which can only mean one thing...Myopic ideologues..

And yet you do not provide examples of GOP corruption to back up your claims. I have no doubt there is some level of corruption within the GOP its run by RINO's. But the left on this forum constantly tries to deflect from and excuse actual examples of the left's corruption by claiming the GOP is corrupt too without ever providing any examples, why?

Because you should at least know what you guys are up to , we do and the bad dem ones..

We are still waiting for examples, I guess you have none. Are you proposing that GOP corruption is on par with, equal to liberal corruption? If so I think you will lose that comparison badly.

Geeze, conservatives won't even call it corruption. They say it is "free speech" to bribe politicians.

 

[BluesLegend]

The gay marriage thing is another...

I see you have proven to be a train hopping pigeon hole poster also...Since the GOP is all angel wings and halo's, it has to be, I have never seen a thread dismantling the corruption that occurs in the GOP, by a GOP member...Which can only mean one thing...Myopic ideologues..

And yet you do not provide examples of GOP corruption to back up your claims. I have no doubt there is some level of corruption within the GOP its run by RINO's. But the left on this forum constantly tries to deflect from and excuse actual examples of the left's corruption by claiming the GOP is corrupt too without ever providing any examples, why?

Because you should at least know what you guys are up to , we do and the bad dem ones..

We are still waiting for examples, I guess you have none. Are you proposing that GOP corruption is on par with, equal to liberal corruption? If so I think you will lose that comparison badly.

Geeze, conservatives won't even call it corruption. They say it is "free speech" to bribe politicians.

Define "it" we are waiting for this mysterious example of corruption you people keep hinting exists.

 

[Agit8r]

I see you have proven to be a train hopping pigeon hole poster also...Since the GOP is all angel wings and halo's, it has to be, I have never seen a thread dismantling the corruption that occurs in the GOP, by a GOP member...Which can only mean one thing...Myopic ideologues..

And yet you do not provide examples of GOP corruption to back up your claims. I have no doubt there is some level of corruption within the GOP its run by RINO's. But the left on this forum constantly tries to deflect from and excuse actual examples of the left's corruption by claiming the GOP is corrupt too without ever providing any examples, why?

Because you should at least know what you guys are up to , we do and the bad dem ones..

We are still waiting for examples, I guess you have none. Are you proposing that GOP corruption is on par with, equal to liberal corruption? If so I think you will lose that comparison badly.

Geeze, conservatives won't even call it corruption. They say it is "free speech" to bribe politicians.

Define "it" we are waiting for this mysterious example of corruption you people keep hinting exists.

When a person or group gives a billion dollars to a candidate, that is an extreme example of corruption. A person who accepts such a donation will automatically be doing that person or group's bidding. There are lesser degrees that go down from there. A politician who receives more of their contributions from small donors is automatically to be assumed less corrupt. It is simply logical.

 

[Mac1958]

They leverage their own freedom of speech to stop/intimidate others from practicing theirs.

They know how to use our own freedoms against us.

It's being done by other groups in other parts of the world as well.

Sad to see.

.

 

[PoliticalChic]

The gay marriage thing is another...

I see you have proven to be a train hopping pigeon hole poster also...Since the GOP is all angel wings and halo's, it has to be, I have never seen a thread dismantling the corruption that occurs in the GOP, by a GOP member...Which can only mean one thing...Myopic ideologues..

And yet you do not provide examples of GOP corruption to back up your claims. I have no doubt there is some level of corruption within the GOP its run by RINO's. But the left on this forum constantly tries to deflect from and excuse actual examples of the left's corruption by claiming the GOP is corrupt too without ever providing any examples, why?

Because you should at least know what you guys are up to , we do and the bad dem ones..

We are still waiting for examples, I guess you have none. Are you proposing that GOP corruption is on par with, equal to liberal corruption? If so I think you will lose that comparison badly.

Geeze, conservatives won't even call it corruption. They say it is "free speech" to bribe politicians.

1. Of course, that is exactly what labor unions do, isn't it.

2. Leftists do far more of that 'bribing' than the right...

1. As of 2009, the financial assets of the 115 major tax-exempt foundations of the Left add up to $104.56 billlion. Not only is this total not less than the financial assets of the 75 foundations of the Right, it was more than ten times greater! [p. 8]
   1. Bradley, Olin, Scaife, the “Big Three” conservative foundations, not one has assets exceeding $1 billion. (Olin has been defunct since 2005).

i. Scaife Foundation has assets totaling $244 million.

ii. Bradley Foundation, $623 million.

1. 1. Fourteen progressive foundations do, including Gates, Ford, Robert Wood Johnson, Hewlett, Kellogg, Packard, MacArthur, Mellon, Rockefeller, Casey, Carnegie, Simons, Heinz, and the Open Society Institute.

i. Ford alone has 16 times what Bradley has.

ii. Soros has claimed that he has donated over $7 billion to his Open Society organizations.

iii. The leading Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, $33 billion.
“The New Leviathan,” David Horowitz and Jacob Laksin

1. With over $100 billion in tax-exempt assets at their disposal, left-wing foundations have been able to invest massively greater amounts in their beneficiary groups. Ford gave more in one year than Scaife in 40!
   1. “By compiling a computerized record of nearly all his contributions over the last four decades, The Washington Post found that Scaife and his family's charitable entities have given at least $340 million to conservative causes and institutions…The Ford Foundation gave away $491 million in 1998 alone.” Washingtonpost.com Scaife Funding Father of the Right

There really is no basis for comparison....

 

[BluesLegend]

And yet you do not provide examples of GOP corruption to back up your claims. I have no doubt there is some level of corruption within the GOP its run by RINO's. But the left on this forum constantly tries to deflect from and excuse actual examples of the left's corruption by claiming the GOP is corrupt too without ever providing any examples, why?

Because you should at least know what you guys are up to , we do and the bad dem ones..

We are still waiting for examples, I guess you have none. Are you proposing that GOP corruption is on par with, equal to liberal corruption? If so I think you will lose that comparison badly.

Geeze, conservatives won't even call it corruption. They say it is "free speech" to bribe politicians.

Define "it" we are waiting for this mysterious example of corruption you people keep hinting exists.

When a person or group gives a billion dollars to a candidate, that is an extreme example of corruption. A person who accepts such a donation will automatically be doing that person or group's bidding. There are lesser degrees that go down from there. A politician who receives more of their contributions from small donors is automatically to be assumed less corrupt. It is simply logical.

LOL okay which person or group gave "a billion dollars to a candidate" or did you just make that up?

 

[Wry Catcher]

Why yes, the religious right would have public trails and sentencing for those blasphemers if they had their whey...Might even put slogans about Gawd on our money...

This is the typical post of an apologist for Democrat's espousing fascism

a. You were afraid to comment on the OP....I'll call that an endorsement of Chisholm.

b. you engage in the default of every Liberal/Progressive/Democrat...and, as shown in the thread....fascist.
This bald-faced lie: 'the religious right would have public trails and sentencing for those blasphemers if they had their whey..."


You have truly become a bottom-feeder.

LOL

The 14 Characteristics of Fascism by Lawrence Britt Spring 2003

Fascism definition origins characteristics fascist state corporative state

14 Elements of Fascism DRUDGE RETORT

You understgand there is no standard definition of fascism, right? BUt it does seem to be opposed to individual liberty, and exalts the power of the state in solving problems. So today's Dems certainly qualify.

There may not be a comprehensive definition, but there are certainly examples of fascist thought to be cited:

"We have founded a system based on the most sincere foundation there is, namely: Form your life yourself! Work for your existence! Help yourself and God will help you!"
-- Adolf Hitler; from speech in Wilhelmshaven (Apr. 1, 1939)

"Let no one say that the picture produced as a first impression of human civilization is the impression of its achievement as a whole. This whole edifice of civilization is in its foundations and in all its stones nothing else than the result of the creative capacity, the achievement, the intelligence, the industry, of individuals: in its greatest triumphs it represents the great crowning achievement of individual God-favored geniuses"
-- Adolf Hitler; from speech to Dusseldorf Industry Club (Jan. 27, 1932)

"Secular schools can never be tolerated because such schools have no religious instruction, and a general moral instruction without a religious foundation is built on air; consequently, all character training and religion must be derived from faith"
-- Adolf Hitler; at Nazi-Vatican Concordat (Apr. 26, 1933)

"The National Government will regard it as its first and foremost duty to revive in the nation the spirit of unity and co-operation. It will preserve and defend those basic principles on which our nation has been built. It regards Christianity as the foundation of our national morality, and the family as the basis of national life"
-- Adolf Hitler; from national proclamation (Feb. 1, 1933)

"Whereas previously the programs of the liberal, intellectualist women's movements contained many points, the program of our National Socialist Women's movement has in reality but one single point, and that point is the child, that tiny creation which must be born and grow strong and which alone gives meaning to the whole life-struggle"
-- Adolf Hitler; from speech to the NS Frauenschaft (Sept. 8, 1934

"The Winterhilfswerk... was to call on the Volk to help itself. We could have done things differently. Instead of appealing to the Volk's willingness to sacrifice, we could have directed our appeal to the taxpayer. We consciously and deliberately did not do so because we wanted to educate the German Volk to come together in this common sacrifice, and therein to begin to understand the nature of the community; to comprehend the duties this community demands of us and to satisfy these of our own free accord without relying on the taxpayer."
-- Adolf Hitler; from speech at Berlin Sportpalast (October 10, 1939)

"Generation after generation of our Volk will march on thus in our history,
with this banner always in mind, this banner that places us under an obligation
to our Volk, its honor, its freedom, and our community — to our truly National
Socialist fraternity. They will then consider it only natural that this German Volk takes but the one path Providence has bade it take by giving these people a common language. We, therefore, go our way into the future with the deepest belief in God. Would all we have achieved been possible had Providence not helped us? I know that the fruits of human labor are hard-won and transitory if they are not blessed by the Omnipotent. Work such as ours which has received the blessings of the Omnipotent can never again be undone by mere mortals."
-- Adolf Hitler; from speech at Regensburg City Hall (June 6, 1937)

"The catchword 'Women's Liberation' is merely a phrase invented by the Jewish intellect, and its contents are marked by the same spirit. The German woman will never need to emancipate herself in an age supportive of German life."
-- Adolf Hitler; from speech to NS Frauenschaft (September 8, 1934)

"I am also religious, profoundly religious on the inside, and I believe that Providence weighs human beings. Those who do not pass the trials imposed by Providence, who are broken by them, are not destined by Providence for greater things. It is a natural necessity that only the strong remain after this selection."
-- Adolf Hitler; from Munich Löwenbräukeller (November 8, 1943)

"The life of the people must be freed from the asphyxiating perfume of our modern eroticism, as it must be from unmanly and prudish refusal to face facts. In all these things the aim and the method must be governed by the thought of preserving our nation's health both in body and soul"
-- from 'Mein Kampf'

"My German Volksgenossen, we have a great deal to rectify before our own history and before our eternal Lord. Providence had withdrawn its protection from us. Our Volk had fallen, plunging to a depth to which a Volk has rarely fallen before. In this difficult plight we have once again learned how to pray; we have learned to respect our Lord; we have regained our faith in the virtues of a Volk, and have endeavored to be better again."
-- Adolf Hitler; from speech in Cologne (March 28, 1936)

"In this hour, let us thank the Almighty who has blessed our paths in the past, and let us pray to Him: may He lead us forth onto the path of righteousness in the future as well."
-- Adolf Hitler; from speech in Eger (October 3, 1938)

"I know that Heaven does not bestow perfection upon men. Their lot is to earn all, hard and painfully. And I know that today this great goal is far from being achieved in full. But we strive for it with burning hearts, and Heaven and Providence have blessed our efforts."
-- Adolf Hitler; from speech in Saarbriicken (March 1, 1935)

"as long as we are loyal, honest and courageous in battle, as long as we believe in our great cause and do not capitulate, we will continue to enjoy the blessing of Providence."
-- Adolf Hitler; from speech in Rosenheim (August 11, 1935)

"Today I must bow down in thanks to Providence, whose mercy has enabled me, once an unknown soldier in the World War, to thus help our Volk to win the battle for the restoration of its honor and uprightness"
-- Adolf Hitler; from speech to the Reichstag (January 30, 1937)

"means for preventing a birth are offered for sale in every chemist's shop... what is in practice a cessation of fecundity in millions of our best people is not regarded as an evil or an offense against the morals of this sanctimonious society; it is instead a sop to its short-sighted slackness of thought. For if it were otherwise, they would have to rack their brains and consider how to make provision for nourishing and conserving the healthy representatives of our nation, who should perform a similar service for the benefit of generations to come."
-- from 'Mein Kampf'

"Were it not for the pact which the Center and the middle classes have entered into with Marxism as a result of their inner relatedness of character, there would be no red, anti-christian Germany today. Therefore they are the accursed accomplices of Bolshevism."
-- Adolf Hitler; from proclamation to Nazi Party (January 1, 1932)

"We were convinced that the people need and require this faith. We have therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement, and that not merely with a few theoretical declarations: we have stamped it out."
-- Adolf Hitler, from speech in Berlin (October 24, 1933)

I see you require a lesson in the totalitarian confluence......You should pick up Berman's "Terror and Liberalism," in which you will find the following:

1. Each of the movements adopted the same set of rites and symbols to express that ideal: crowds chanting en masse, the monumental architecture, the insistence on unquestioning belief in preposterous doctrines.

a. Each of the totalitarian movements chose its own monochrome symbol, representing the oneness of authority, in red, brown or black.

b. Each donned the identical uniform, - a shirt of red, brown or black.

c. Each recounted a theory about history and mankind, explaining the movement’s goals and actions.

2. The mythology of all of them, curiously enough, was based on the New Testament, specifically the Book of Revelation of St. John the Devine.

a. There is a people of God, and these are under attack, both from within (the city dwellers of Babylon, who have sunk into abominations) and from without (by the forces of Satan).

b. Resistance will result in the war of Armageddon…with the extermination of the evil ones. As will the devil’s force! But not without horrifying destruction.

c. Then, there will be the reign of Christ for a thousand years.


3. An “Ur-myth,” is a myth so ancient and so all-encompassing that it has become an irreducible part of the human experience, and is the basis for the tales that seem to give a patina of relevance to the movements. It is this ur-myth that represents the origins of the movement-myths, in its modern versions.

a. Sometime after the First World War, the Babylon-Armageddon made its way into political theory. Each version had a people of God, under attack. There was the proletariat for the Bolsheviks and Stalinists; the children of the Roman wolf for Mussolini’s Fascists; the Warriors of Christ the King for Franco’s Phalange, and the Aryan race for the Nazis.

b. There were always subversive dwellers of Babylon, good at trading various commodities, polluting society with their abominations. Bourgeoisie, kulaks, Freemasons and cosmopolitans, and, always, Jews. Aided, of course, by Satanic forces, variously identified as capitalists, or Americans and their technology ( Heidegger’s Nazi interpretation) or the international Jewish conspiracy.

c. The reign of God was always just ahead. The Age of the Proletariat (Bolsheviks and Stalinists); the resurrected Roman Empire (Fascists); the reign of Christ the King (Spanish Phalange); or a blond Aryan version of the Roman Empire, called the Third Reich (Nazis).

d. And the period of grace was going to be pure and perfect- cleansed of pollutants and abominations. Purity of unexploited labor (Bolsheviks and Stalinists); purity of Roman Grandeur (Fascists); the purity of Catholic virtue (Phalange); or the biological purity of Aryan blood (Nazis). And, always, to last for a thousand years: a perfect society- no flaws, no competition, no turmoil.

e. Of course, for all of the movements, it would be a one-party, unchallenged state, representing the final unity of mankind.

f. And the leader…a superman, a genius of geniuses, the one predicted by history, godlike- thrilling his worshipful followers… perhaps establishing a new religion….

g. Always, before the reign, there was going to be the war of Armageddon- the exterminating bloodbath! The class war (Bolsheviks and Stalinists); the Crusade (Fascists); of the race war (Nazis).

Revelation 19:21 “And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse,…”



Did you note how neatly Obama's variety of totalitarian fits in there?

No I don't, please edify me and during that process post the usual potboiler to prove your allegation; you're good at that.

See, I too can praise you.

[of course you praise yourself, hence the use of the word "too")