sealadaigh
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When Hamas is ready to sit on the table, Israel will. Israel will not sit down with any entity whose goal is Israel's annihilation.
From the Hamas platform:
Article Thirteen
[Peace] initiatives, the so-called peaceful solutions, and the
international conferences to resolve the Palestinian problem, are all
contrary to the beliefs of the Islamic Resistance Movement. For renouncing
any part of Palestine means renouncing part of the religion; the
nationalism of the Islamic Resistance Movement is part of its faith, the
movement educates its members to adhere to its principles and to raise the
banner of Allah over their homeland as they fight their Jihad: "Allah is
the all-powerful, but most people are not aware."
So I ask you, why would Israel bother?
there is an implicit nullification of that portion of the charter in the fact that HAMAS is willing to sit down and negotiate.
haniyeh has distanced himself from the charter, as have other leading HAMAS figures, to include the recently assassinated al-jabari.
i would never ever suggest we change our declaration of independence to accomodate our current relationship with great britain.
here is what wiki says about the charter...
Relevance of the Charter in the 21st centuryBritish diplomat and former British ambassador to the UN Sir Jeremy Greenstock stated in early 2009 that the Hamas charter was "drawn up by a Hamas-linked imam some [twenty] years ago and has never been adopted since Hamas was elected as the Palestinian government in 2006 as part of their political program".[8] Mohammed Nimer of American University comments on the Charter, Its a tract meant to mobilize support and it should be amended... It projects anger, not vision.[14] Pastor states that those who quote the charter rather than more recent Hamas statements may be using the Charter as an excuse to ignore Hamas.[6]
Dr. Ahmed Yousef, an adviser to Ismail Haniyeh (the senior political leader of Hamas) has questioned the use of the charter by Israel and its supporters to brand Hamas as a fundamentalist, terrorist, racist, anti-Semitic organization and claims that they have taken parts of the charter out of context for propaganda purposes. He claims that they dwell on the charter and ignore that Hamas has changed its views with time.He further states that "the Israelis have, for example, translated the charter to several languages, English and French included, intentionally perverting the substance of its tenets to suit their purposes. Those aims were to market its fraudulent translation to as many Western politicians, academics and media channels as possible; and therefore make it easier to claim security concerns as the basis for their legal infractions. The fear-mongering is designed to horrify the West so much that it turns a blind eye to Israels crimes against humanity which contravene international law".[13]
In a further move away from their charter Hamas have stated according to Agence France-Presse and Al Jazeera "the question of recognizing Israel is not the jurisdiction of one faction, nor the government, but a decision for the Palestinian people."[15][16] However many remain sceptical of Hamas's new stance, and view at as a ploy to hide its true agenda, "but it is equally true that the new discourse of diluted religious contentto say nothing of the movements increasing pragmatism and flexibility in the political domainreflects genuine and cumulative changes within Hamas."[7]
Hamas Covenant - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
a peace is not achieved by people dragging their feet. it is only achieved by negotiation with ALL interested parties.
While lately I've stopped using Hamas's Charter as a talking point, if they were sincerely interested in ending the carnage they would EXPLICITLY renounce it. Just sayin'.
first of all, it actually is a covenant, which is different. secondly, it has a historical significance to the palestinian people.
HAMAS has said they would recognise the '67 borders.
HAMAS is willing to sit down and negotiate. israel isn't. if israel were truly interested in peace, they wouldn't let a piece of paper that HAMAS leaders have rejected some portions of. this is ridiculous.
how would you feel if israel were asked to amend "the basic law". what about the hariri decision. papers come and go.
the bottom line, too, is that israel woulf not be exactly negotiatiing with HAMAS. they would be negotiating with the palestinian authority. HAMAS would fall under that umbrella.