America needs to back away from giving out welfare

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    I think we MUST scale back on welfare for abled adults. There's no way we can afford to give everyone welfare as it's economically impossible and will lead to lower living standards. Yep, double edge sword as we can't have a strong economy with everyone feeding off of it.

    We need to only give such to people that lost their jobs or for a short term thing. If we're going to do anything we need to improve our educational system.
     
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    Here's one way to start.

    Welfare Drug Testing Bill Passed by Oklahoma House | Testing It Up

    HB 2388 will call for drug testing of applicants for Temporary Assistance to Needy Families (TANF), and withhold payments to those who will test positive for illegal drug use. The bill passed by the House, however, has already undergone changes in the Senate. While the original version of the bill called for testing for everyone applying for aid, the Senate modified it such that not everyone will be subjected to testing.

    The Oklahoma Department of Human Services (DHS) currently continues to provide assistance to recipients who test positive for illegal drug while undergoing treatment, according to Sen. David Holt, Senate author of the bill. HB 2388 will halt payments while still providing treatment.
     
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    So...what about those who have LONG-TERM unemployment?? Are you really so disconnected that you think Detroit, or California, can get to 100% employability in 6 months to two years?

    Matthew, study the issue before starting a thread, mmmkay?
     
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    They tried that in Florida. The percentage of participants that failed their drug tests is lower that the overall percentage of drug users in Florida. The program wasted millions of dollars.

    And now Oklahoma wants to do it, knowing that it's a failure?


    What a stupid state.
     
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    You mean those oases of commiecrats and unions are having problems, how about they move where the jobs are. I hear they are looking for people in the oil fields of ND, it's a little cool around Williston this time of year but the folks from Detroit should be able to handle it. Sometimes survival requires people to be proactive.
     
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    Yep, yer talkin' out yer ass.
     
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    Stupid is not doing so. Because the percentage of drug users is lower than the percentage of drug users as welfare recipients is hardly an argument. People who use their own money to purchase drugs is something we have little control over. People who use tax dollars to do the same is something we can definitely discourage.

    I suspect stupidity here, but not that of the states.
     
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    Ain't federalism great, a state can try something and the whole country doesn't have to pay for it. OK wants to try it, that's their business.
     
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    So they can spend millions on drug tests to save tens of thousands in welfare payments. Fooking geniuses.
     
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    What a fan-freaking-tastic arguement, how the hell did you get sooooooooo smart??????
     

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