America Needs To Act Prudently About Saudi Arabia!

[JimofPennsylvan]

There is an outstanding amount of evidence that a group of Saudi Arabia government agents tortured and murdered the journalist Jamal Khashoggi in the Saudi Arabian embassy in Turkey when Mr. Khashoggi went to the embassy to get paperwork to complete his divorce so he could remarry. Mr. Khashoggi was a great and widely beloved human being who tried to use journalism to stop governmental wrong's occurring in his home country of Saudi Arabia! It is despicable and justifiably stokes great rage in the international community when they hear what happened to this good man and the big question now arises what should the American government do about it because American politicians are threatening a major response. There is a myriad of options the American government could choose from one just extreme which would be to use the audio tape of the crime to identify one of the perpetrators and use our intelligence service to hire a hit man to take that perpetrator out, but, that is not the way a good country acts a good country respects the rule of law and doesn't take justice in their own hands in this way.


The American people need to definitely remember that the country of Saudi Arabia has been a great friend to America over the past forty plus years. People may dispute the following contention but they would absolutely wrong that being that the Saudi Arabia government has been a great friend to America and the West over this time period in moderating the price of oil, they have been a restraining force in OPEC being responsible for protecting America and Worldwide economies from the destabilization that can result from energy prices. In addition, over the decades they have been a great ally in America's fight against radical Islamic terrorism and the grave threat to our culture this movement poses! Further, Saudi Arabia is in a vital war for America'a interests in Yemen, its neighbor, if the Saudi's and its allies lose that means Iran and its allies win that is the country of Iran which would relish the demise of America!


The problem with Saudi Arabia seems to be with the second most powerful figure in the Kingdom, Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman. Although he is right on the economics for Saudi Arabia that the age of oil is coming to an end and Saudi Arabia needs to be outstanding aggressive about pivoting its economy away from oil especially toward manufacturing more of what they consume, his record on human rights is somewhat troubling. Back in 2017 he was behind the arrest of a group of wealthy Saudis based on trumped up charges resulting in the Saudi government extorting $100 billion from those arrested. What really needs to take place is King Salman of Saudi Arabia needs to put a system in place consisting of one or maybe a small tribunal of Saudis to act as a check on the young Crown Prince involving anything that involve the Saudi government significantly harming human rights.


In any event, America over the Mr. Khashoggi matter should refrain from doing anything that significantly harms Saudi Arabia from a security or economic standpoint. The perpetrators of this crime probably had diplomatic immunity because they were considered personnel legitimately working at the Saudi embassy in Turkey. Since Saudi Arabia abused this privilege of legal protections of embassy personnel America's response should be that for four years for Saudi embassies throughout America diplomatic visas will be restricted, that is, the Saudi Arabian government will have to justify those visas they will not be extended to Saudi's in the intelligence services or that present a suspicious reason for their coming to America!

 

[OldLady]

There is an outstanding amount of evidence that a group of Saudi Arabia government agents tortured and murdered the journalist Jamal Khashoggi in the Saudi Arabian embassy in Turkey when Mr. Khashoggi went to the embassy to get paperwork to complete his divorce so he could remarry. Mr. Khashoggi was a great and widely beloved human being who tried to use journalism to stop governmental wrong's occurring in his home country of Saudi Arabia! It is despicable and justifiably stokes great rage in the international community when they hear what happened to this good man and the big question now arises what should the American government do about it because American politicians are threatening a major response. There is a myriad of options the American government could choose from one just extreme which would be to use the audio tape of the crime to identify one of the perpetrators and use our intelligence service to hire a hit man to take that perpetrator out, but, that is not the way a good country acts a good country respects the rule of law and doesn't take justice in their own hands in this way.


The American people need to definitely remember that the country of Saudi Arabia has been a great friend to America over the past forty plus years. People may dispute the following contention but they would absolutely wrong that being that the Saudi Arabia government has been a great friend to America and the West over this time period in moderating the price of oil, they have been a restraining force in OPEC being responsible for protecting America and Worldwide economies from the destabilization that can result from energy prices. In addition, over the decades they have been a great ally in America's fight against radical Islamic terrorism and the grave threat to our culture this movement poses! Further, Saudi Arabia is in a vital war for America'a interests in Yemen, its neighbor, if the Saudi's and its allies lose that means Iran and its allies win that is the country of Iran which would relish the demise of America!


The problem with Saudi Arabia seems to be with the second most powerful figure in the Kingdom, Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman. Although he is right on the economics for Saudi Arabia that the age of oil is coming to an end and Saudi Arabia needs to be outstanding aggressive about pivoting its economy away from oil especially toward manufacturing more of what they consume, his record on human rights is somewhat troubling. Back in 2017 he was behind the arrest of a group of wealthy Saudis based on trumped up charges resulting in the Saudi government extorting $100 billion from those arrested. What really needs to take place is King Salman of Saudi Arabia needs to put a system in place consisting of one or maybe a small tribunal of Saudis to act as a check on the young Crown Prince involving anything that involve the Saudi government significantly harming human rights.


In any event, America over the Mr. Khashoggi matter should refrain from doing anything that significantly harms Saudi Arabia from a security or economic standpoint. The perpetrators of this crime probably had diplomatic immunity because they were considered personnel legitimately working at the Saudi embassy in Turkey. Since Saudi Arabia abused this privilege of legal protections of embassy personnel America's response should be that for four years for Saudi embassies throughout America diplomatic visas will be restricted, that is, the Saudi Arabian government will have to justify those visas they will not be extended to Saudi's in the intelligence services or that present a suspicious reason for their coming to America!

How do we know it was the Prince who ordered the murder? Could it have been the father? I have no idea.
If it is proven that the Saudi government was behind this, we will most likely do what we did when Russia poisoned their ex-spy in GB. Minor sanctions to add to the international reaction that slapped Russia's hand for carrying out their murders in free countries.

 

[Sunni Man]

Why should the U.S. government get involved in another country's internal domestic affairs? ...

 

[BlackFlag]

There is an outstanding amount of evidence that a group of Saudi Arabia government agents tortured and murdered the journalist Jamal Khashoggi in the Saudi Arabian embassy in Turkey when Mr. Khashoggi went to the embassy to get paperwork to complete his divorce so he could remarry. Mr. Khashoggi was a great and widely beloved human being who tried to use journalism to stop governmental wrong's occurring in his home country of Saudi Arabia! It is despicable and justifiably stokes great rage in the international community when they hear what happened to this good man and the big question now arises what should the American government do about it because American politicians are threatening a major response. There is a myriad of options the American government could choose from one just extreme which would be to use the audio tape of the crime to identify one of the perpetrators and use our intelligence service to hire a hit man to take that perpetrator out, but, that is not the way a good country acts a good country respects the rule of law and doesn't take justice in their own hands in this way.


The American people need to definitely remember that the country of Saudi Arabia has been a great friend to America over the past forty plus years. People may dispute the following contention but they would absolutely wrong that being that the Saudi Arabia government has been a great friend to America and the West over this time period in moderating the price of oil, they have been a restraining force in OPEC being responsible for protecting America and Worldwide economies from the destabilization that can result from energy prices. In addition, over the decades they have been a great ally in America's fight against radical Islamic terrorism and the grave threat to our culture this movement poses! Further, Saudi Arabia is in a vital war for America'a interests in Yemen, its neighbor, if the Saudi's and its allies lose that means Iran and its allies win that is the country of Iran which would relish the demise of America!


The problem with Saudi Arabia seems to be with the second most powerful figure in the Kingdom, Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman. Although he is right on the economics for Saudi Arabia that the age of oil is coming to an end and Saudi Arabia needs to be outstanding aggressive about pivoting its economy away from oil especially toward manufacturing more of what they consume, his record on human rights is somewhat troubling. Back in 2017 he was behind the arrest of a group of wealthy Saudis based on trumped up charges resulting in the Saudi government extorting $100 billion from those arrested. What really needs to take place is King Salman of Saudi Arabia needs to put a system in place consisting of one or maybe a small tribunal of Saudis to act as a check on the young Crown Prince involving anything that involve the Saudi government significantly harming human rights.


In any event, America over the Mr. Khashoggi matter should refrain from doing anything that significantly harms Saudi Arabia from a security or economic standpoint. The perpetrators of this crime probably had diplomatic immunity because they were considered personnel legitimately working at the Saudi embassy in Turkey. Since Saudi Arabia abused this privilege of legal protections of embassy personnel America's response should be that for four years for Saudi embassies throughout America diplomatic visas will be restricted, that is, the Saudi Arabian government will have to justify those visas they will not be extended to Saudi's in the intelligence services or that present a suspicious reason for their coming to America!

So we should Brett Kavanaugh them, and reward their evil... yeah, no thanks.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

I'd send Obama there to get to the bottom of it

 

[OldLady]

Why should the U.S. government get involved in another country's internal domestic affairs? ...

1) It didn't happen in their own country, therefore not making it an "internal domestic affair."
2) He was employed by a United States newspaper.
3) We believe in human rights, including the government not murdering their people willy nilly for disagreeing with them.

 

[BlackFlag]

I'd send Obama there to get to the bottom of it

And risk Trump org profits?! Hell no

 

[BlackFlag]

Why should the U.S. government get involved in another country's internal domestic affairs? ...

1) It didn't happen in their own country, therefore not making it an "internal domestic affair."
2) He was employed by a United States newspaper.
3) We believe in human rights, including the government not murdering their people willy nilly for disagreeing with them.

Your 3rd point is not as strong as before Trump was elected.

 

[BlackFlag]

The moral of this story is if you’re a dictator and you want to commit a bunch of human rights violations and assassinate dissenters, do it while Trump is in office.

 

[Nia88]

Why should the U.S. government get involved in another country's internal domestic affairs? ...

I agree. We shouldn't get involved in other country affairs. But we shouldn't also be selling other countries weapons so they can continue killing and starving people.

The US really needs to stop befriending Saudi. And this goes for all the other presidents who got into bed with them.

US government has no problem slandering Iran, but won't dare touch Saudi because of Money.

 

[Disir]

There is an outstanding amount of evidence

No, there isn't. Turkey has not yet made that evidence available which leaves you with because they say so.

 

[Wyatt earp]

There is an outstanding amount of evidence that a group of Saudi Arabia government agents tortured and murdered the journalist Jamal Khashoggi in the Saudi Arabian embassy in Turkey when Mr. Khashoggi went to the embassy to get paperwork to complete his divorce so he could remarry. Mr. Khashoggi was a great and widely beloved human being who tried to use journalism to stop governmental wrong's occurring in his home country of Saudi Arabia! It is despicable and justifiably stokes great rage in the international community when they hear what happened to this good man and the big question now arises what should the American government do about it because American politicians are threatening a major response. There is a myriad of options the American government could choose from one just extreme which would be to use the audio tape of the crime to identify one of the perpetrators and use our intelligence service to hire a hit man to take that perpetrator out, but, that is not the way a good country acts a good country respects the rule of law and doesn't take justice in their own hands in this way.


The American people need to definitely remember that the country of Saudi Arabia has been a great friend to America over the past forty plus years. People may dispute the following contention but they would absolutely wrong that being that the Saudi Arabia government has been a great friend to America and the West over this time period in moderating the price of oil, they have been a restraining force in OPEC being responsible for protecting America and Worldwide economies from the destabilization that can result from energy prices. In addition, over the decades they have been a great ally in America's fight against radical Islamic terrorism and the grave threat to our culture this movement poses! Further, Saudi Arabia is in a vital war for America'a interests in Yemen, its neighbor, if the Saudi's and its allies lose that means Iran and its allies win that is the country of Iran which would relish the demise of America!


The problem with Saudi Arabia seems to be with the second most powerful figure in the Kingdom, Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman. Although he is right on the economics for Saudi Arabia that the age of oil is coming to an end and Saudi Arabia needs to be outstanding aggressive about pivoting its economy away from oil especially toward manufacturing more of what they consume, his record on human rights is somewhat troubling. Back in 2017 he was behind the arrest of a group of wealthy Saudis based on trumped up charges resulting in the Saudi government extorting $100 billion from those arrested. What really needs to take place is King Salman of Saudi Arabia needs to put a system in place consisting of one or maybe a small tribunal of Saudis to act as a check on the young Crown Prince involving anything that involve the Saudi government significantly harming human rights.


In any event, America over the Mr. Khashoggi matter should refrain from doing anything that significantly harms Saudi Arabia from a security or economic standpoint. The perpetrators of this crime probably had diplomatic immunity because they were considered personnel legitimately working at the Saudi embassy in Turkey. Since Saudi Arabia abused this privilege of legal protections of embassy personnel America's response should be that for four years for Saudi embassies throughout America diplomatic visas will be restricted, that is, the Saudi Arabian government will have to justify those visas they will not be extended to Saudi's in the intelligence services or that present a suspicious reason for their coming to America!

Did those billionares ever get there money back or are they homeless on the street?

 

[Wyatt earp]

Why should the U.S. government get involved in another country's internal domestic affairs? ...

I agree. We shouldn't get involved in other country affairs. But we shouldn't also be selling other countries weapons so they can continue killing and starving people.

The US really needs to stop befriending Saudi. And this goes for all the other presidents who got into bed with them.

US government has no problem slandering Iran, but won't dare touch Saudi because of Money.

It's not money , we only have two allies in the middle East

 

[theHawk]

Why should the U.S. government get involved in another country's internal domestic affairs? ...

1) It didn't happen in their own country, therefore not making it an "internal domestic affair."
2) He was employed by a United States newspaper.
3) We believe in human rights, including the government not murdering their people willy nilly for disagreeing with them.

Is there an Islamic government anywhere that doesn’t commit human rights violations and murder its own people?

Yes, Saudis are pieces of shit, just like most Muslims. You want the US to perform an investigation in Turkey and Saudi Arabia?

 

[OldLady]

Why should the U.S. government get involved in another country's internal domestic affairs? ...

1) It didn't happen in their own country, therefore not making it an "internal domestic affair."
2) He was employed by a United States newspaper.
3) We believe in human rights, including the government not murdering their people willy nilly for disagreeing with them.

Is there an Islamic government anywhere that doesn’t commit human rights violations and murder its own people?

Yes, Saudis are pieces of shit, just like most Muslims. You want the US to perform an investigation in Turkey and Saudi Arabia?

I heard we already are involved in the investigation. Did I hear wrong?

 

[theHawk]

Why should the U.S. government get involved in another country's internal domestic affairs? ...

1) It didn't happen in their own country, therefore not making it an "internal domestic affair."
2) He was employed by a United States newspaper.
3) We believe in human rights, including the government not murdering their people willy nilly for disagreeing with them.

Is there an Islamic government anywhere that doesn’t commit human rights violations and murder its own people?

Yes, Saudis are pieces of shit, just like most Muslims. You want the US to perform an investigation in Turkey and Saudi Arabia?

I heard we already are involved in the investigation. Did I hear wrong?

Like what? Calling their ambassador or the King and asking them what happened?

 

[Nia88]

Why should the U.S. government get involved in another country's internal domestic affairs? ...

I agree. We shouldn't get involved in other country affairs. But we shouldn't also be selling other countries weapons so they can continue killing and starving people.

The US really needs to stop befriending Saudi. And this goes for all the other presidents who got into bed with them.

US government has no problem slandering Iran, but won't dare touch Saudi because of Money.

It's not money , we only have two allies in the middle East

That's not true. US has other allies like Jordan and Egypt. They could be allies with Iran if they wanted. Iran is no worse than Saudi Arabia. All but 3 9/11 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia. Yet we bombed Afghanistan and Iraq. Makes perfect sense.

It's only about money when it comes to Saudi Arabia.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Why should the U.S. government get involved in another country's internal domestic affairs? ...

I agree. We shouldn't get involved in other country affairs. But we shouldn't also be selling other countries weapons so they can continue killing and starving people.

The US really needs to stop befriending Saudi. And this goes for all the other presidents who got into bed with them.

US government has no problem slandering Iran, but won't dare touch Saudi because of Money.

It's not money , we only have two allies in the middle East

That's not true. US has other allies like Jordan and Egypt. They could be allies with Iran if they wanted. Iran is no worse than Saudi Arabia. All but 3 9/11 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia. Yet we bombed Afghanistan and Iraq. Makes perfect sense.

It's only about money when it comes to Saudi Arabia.

Uhm we have been in a proxy war with Iran for a while now an Iranains bragged about killing our US soldiers in Iraq.

 

[Nia88]

Why should the U.S. government get involved in another country's internal domestic affairs? ...

I agree. We shouldn't get involved in other country affairs. But we shouldn't also be selling other countries weapons so they can continue killing and starving people.

The US really needs to stop befriending Saudi. And this goes for all the other presidents who got into bed with them.

US government has no problem slandering Iran, but won't dare touch Saudi because of Money.

It's not money , we only have two allies in the middle East

That's not true. US has other allies like Jordan and Egypt. They could be allies with Iran if they wanted. Iran is no worse than Saudi Arabia. All but 3 9/11 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia. Yet we bombed Afghanistan and Iraq. Makes perfect sense.

It's only about money when it comes to Saudi Arabia.

Uhm we have been in a proxy war with Iran for a while now an Iranains bragged about killing our US soldiers in Iraq.

And Saudis promote hatred of Jews and non/Muslims in general. The sect of Islam the government officially pushes, propagates America is evil.

 

[whitehall]

"Outstanding amount of information"? There was such an "outstanding amount of information" that alleged the Trump campaign colluded with Russia that they established an "independent" counsel which apparently found nothing after two years. Something ain't right about this issue and strangely the Post isn't saying much about their own reporter.