Amazon chased out of Texas by Taxes

[sangha]

i think Texas is correct though....

all other online retailers, if bought and shipped in the state they reside in, collect sales taxes from the consumer....

is this article saying that amazon refused to do such?

*maybe i don't understand all????

I agree. The time has come for online retailers to charge sales tax. It has been exempt since Clinton's presidency on the argument that we needed to encourage online commerce.

Well, it's been encouraged. But there is no reason, in 2011, for a state to not get their sales tax from an online merchant, while collecting it from brick and mortar stores in-state. We just cannot afford those giveaways at this time.

This would hurt me, btw. I do most of my shopping online, and just purchased another $2,400 keyboard. My math ain't too good, but I figure I saved around $168 in taxes. I'm happy for me, but it's not the best thing for my state.

Keeping what I've earned isn't a "giveaway".

If you think gubmint deserves that $168, nobody is stopping you from cutting them a check.

Wingnuts are the ultimate welfare queens. They think the roads, water systems, electrical grid, the internet, the post office, and all the other govt-subsidized resources they used are FREE

 

[Oddball]

it should be a level playing field for all businesses.

Why should some be required to collect it and others not?

I think Texas is correct in this matter and amazon may be able to run for a short while from this but I don't think it will be for very long....as mentioned ALL States are missing the sales tax revenue generated from on line sales.

What amazon has done, will lead to more and more states making it law that even for out of state purchases, the retailer needs to collect it and send it to them....imho.

Some of us refer to this concept as "freedom".

Personally, I don't fret about all the blood that a tick is "missing out on" when I pull it off of my neck.

How is sales tax an assault on your 'freedom'?

Use your words, now, oddball - no photoshops!

The freedom to avoid taxes.

This is no different than people crossing state lines to avoid taxes on their purchases.

Contrary to liberoidal doctrine, gubmint doesn't have a right to pick my pocket.

 

[Oddball]

I agree. The time has come for online retailers to charge sales tax. It has been exempt since Clinton's presidency on the argument that we needed to encourage online commerce.

Well, it's been encouraged. But there is no reason, in 2011, for a state to not get their sales tax from an online merchant, while collecting it from brick and mortar stores in-state. We just cannot afford those giveaways at this time.

This would hurt me, btw. I do most of my shopping online, and just purchased another $2,400 keyboard. My math ain't too good, but I figure I saved around $168 in taxes. I'm happy for me, but it's not the best thing for my state.

Keeping what I've earned isn't a "giveaway".

If you think gubmint deserves that $168, nobody is stopping you from cutting them a check.

Wingnuts are the ultimate welfare queens. They think the roads, water systems, electrical grid, the internet, the post office, and all the other govt-subsidized resources they used are FREE

Why do I pay taxes on my fuel and utility bills, fool?

 

[uscitizen]

Not surprising. State governments have been grousing about the "lost" revenue that they are not sucking out of the economy due to internet and catalog sales. Look for more aggressive tactics by State and local governments across the country as they do their dead level best to get their greedy hands on some redistributable cash.

If the item bought is shipped from within the same state as it's purchaser resides it is subject to sales tax just like something you buy at the store down the street.
PERIOD!

the "fair tax" touted by many would work the same way.

 

[JWBooth]

Not surprising. State governments have been grousing about the "lost" revenue that they are not sucking out of the economy due to internet and catalog sales. Look for more aggressive tactics by State and local governments across the country as they do their dead level best to get their greedy hands on some redistributable cash.

That's a pretty ignorant post, right there.

The "all hail the state" chorus squeeks its affirmation of the state's claim to wet its beak.

 

[sangha]

Keeping what I've earned isn't a "giveaway".

If you think gubmint deserves that $168, nobody is stopping you from cutting them a check.

Wingnuts are the ultimate welfare queens. They think the roads, water systems, electrical grid, the internet, the post office, and all the other govt-subsidized resources they used are FREE

Why do I pay taxes on my fuel and utility bills, fool?

We'll just add this to the ever-growing List of Things Oddball Doesn't Know That Everyone But Wingnuts Know

Meanwhile, maybe you could explain (using your own words, not pictures) how a welfare queen like you made money without using the roads, the internet, water, the post office, or the electrical grid? I noticed that you totally wimped out on responding to that point

 

[Oddball]

Wingnuts are the ultimate welfare queens. They think the roads, water systems, electrical grid, the internet, the post office, and all the other govt-subsidized resources they used are FREE

Why do I pay taxes on my fuel and utility bills, fool?

We'll just add this to the ever-growing List of Things Oddball Doesn't Know That Everyone But Wingnuts Know

Meanwhile, maybe you could explain how a welfare queen like you made money without using the roads, the internet, water, the post office, or the electrical grid? I noticed that you totally wimped out on responding to that point

We already pay taxes and fees to access those things, you nitwit.

Speaking of things you "know" that just ain't so.

 

[Synthaholic]

Keeping what I've earned isn't a "giveaway".

If you think gubmint deserves that $168, nobody is stopping you from cutting them a check.

Wingnuts are the ultimate welfare queens. They think the roads, water systems, electrical grid, the internet, the post office, and all the other govt-subsidized resources they used are FREE

Why do I pay taxes on my fuel and utility bills, fool?

You think that's enough to cover the costs? What about police, fire, EMT, teachers, National Guard, prisons, etc.?

You wingnuts can't think farther than 3 words ahead. You claim to want law and order, yet you don't want to pay for police and prisons. Do you know how much it costs to construct just one mile of Interstate? MILLIONS! But let someone complain that the construction companies are charging too much, and you wingnuts jump to their defense.

You want it both ways, like little fucking children: you want private business to be able to charge what they charge without interference from the government, then you want to not pay them what they charge because you might have to pay 6-7% sales tax on your latest Playstation 3 game.

Grow up, moron!

 

[Oddball]

Wingnuts are the ultimate welfare queens. They think the roads, water systems, electrical grid, the internet, the post office, and all the other govt-subsidized resources they used are FREE

Why do I pay taxes on my fuel and utility bills, fool?

You think that's enough to cover the costs? What about police, fire, EMT, teachers, National Guard, prisons, etc.?

You wingnuts can't think farther than 3 words ahead. You claim to want law and order, yet you don't want to pay for police and prisons. Do you know how much it costs to construct just one mile of Interstate? MILLIONS! But let someone complain that the construction companies are charging too much, and you wingnuts jump to their defense.

You want it both ways, like little fucking children: you want private business to be able to charge what they charge without interference from the government, then you want to not pay them what they charge because you might have to pay 6-7% sales tax on your latest Playstation 3 game.

Grow up, moron!

Here we go again...

Can't control your spending?...Just cower behind cops, firefighters, teachers and EMS to justify your failure.

Sorry, that dog don't hunt.

 

[sangha]

Not surprising. State governments have been grousing about the "lost" revenue that they are not sucking out of the economy due to internet and catalog sales. Look for more aggressive tactics by State and local governments across the country as they do their dead level best to get their greedy hands on some redistributable cash.

If the item bought is shipped from within the same state as it's purchaser resides it is subject to sales tax just like something you buy at the store down the street.
PERIOD!

the "fair tax" touted by many would work the same way.

I don't know why anyone is arguing about the legality of TX's suit. The law is clear - ALL in state purchases are subject to the sales tax.

Unless it's because some people don't want to talk about the "wisdom" of TX's supposedly "business-friendly" policies which are chasing businesses right out of the state at a time when TX has a massive budget deficit.

 

[Synthaholic]

Why do I pay taxes on my fuel and utility bills, fool?

You think that's enough to cover the costs? What about police, fire, EMT, teachers, National Guard, prisons, etc.?

You wingnuts can't think farther than 3 words ahead. You claim to want law and order, yet you don't want to pay for police and prisons. Do you know how much it costs to construct just one mile of Interstate? MILLIONS! But let someone complain that the construction companies are charging too much, and you wingnuts jump to their defense.

You want it both ways, like little fucking children: you want private business to be able to charge what they charge without interference from the government, then you want to not pay them what they charge because you might have to pay 6-7% sales tax on your latest Playstation 3 game.

Grow up, moron!

Here we go again...

Can't control your spending?...Just cower behind cops, firefighters, teachers and EMS to justify your failure.

Sorry, that dog don't hunt.

I knew you would puss out.

 

[Oddball]

The one pussing out is you.

Do you ever have an argument in favor of the glorious socialistic welfare state, that doesn't involve cowering behind teachers, cops, first responders, the elderly, infirm and/or the sainted chiiillllldrrrrreeennnnnn?

 

[sangha]

Why do I pay taxes on my fuel and utility bills, fool?

We'll just add this to the ever-growing List of Things Oddball Doesn't Know That Everyone But Wingnuts Know

Meanwhile, maybe you could explain how a welfare queen like you made money without using the roads, the internet, water, the post office, or the electrical grid? I noticed that you totally wimped out on responding to that point

We already pay taxes and fees to access those things, you nitwit.

Speaking of things you "know" that just ain't so.

Oddball is so dumb that he's OK with paying taxes for roads, post office, etc but he opposes paying taxes for roads, post offices, etc

The wingnut probably thinks the roads fix themselves, and the letters mail themselves. The electrons volunteer to flow through the wires, and the Internet is maintained by (fully paid for) robots

 

[uscitizen]

Oddball just does not want to pay any taxes it is as simple as that.
He thinks everyone else should support our government but not him.

 

[Oddball]

We'll just add this to the ever-growing List of Things Oddball Doesn't Know That Everyone But Wingnuts Know

Meanwhile, maybe you could explain how a welfare queen like you made money without using the roads, the internet, water, the post office, or the electrical grid? I noticed that you totally wimped out on responding to that point

We already pay taxes and fees to access those things, you nitwit.

Speaking of things you "know" that just ain't so.

Oddball is so dumb that he's OK with paying taxes for roads, post office, etc but he opposes paying taxes for roads, post offices, etc

The wingnut probably thinks the roads fix themselves, and the letters mail themselves. The electrons volunteer to flow through the wires, and the Internet is maintained by (fully paid for) robots

Do you find that whistling between your ears when the wind blows soothing or distracting?

 

[sangha]

You think that's enough to cover the costs? What about police, fire, EMT, teachers, National Guard, prisons, etc.?

You wingnuts can't think farther than 3 words ahead. You claim to want law and order, yet you don't want to pay for police and prisons. Do you know how much it costs to construct just one mile of Interstate? MILLIONS! But let someone complain that the construction companies are charging too much, and you wingnuts jump to their defense.

You want it both ways, like little fucking children: you want private business to be able to charge what they charge without interference from the government, then you want to not pay them what they charge because you might have to pay 6-7% sales tax on your latest Playstation 3 game.

Grow up, moron!

Here we go again...

Can't control your spending?...Just cower behind cops, firefighters, teachers and EMS to justify your failure.

Sorry, that dog don't hunt.

I knew you would puss out.

I'm still waiting for Mr Doesn't-Puss-Out to explain how he makes money without using any govt subsidized resources like the roads, the post office, the water supply, the elctrical grid, and the internet.

 

[Oddball]

Here we go again...

Can't control your spending?...Just cower behind cops, firefighters, teachers and EMS to justify your failure.

Sorry, that dog don't hunt.

I knew you would puss out.

I'm still waiting for Mr Doesn't-Puss-Out to explain how he makes money without using any govt subsidized resources like the roads, the post office, the water supply, the elctrical grid, and the internet.

I've pointed out twice now that we all already pay taxes and fees to access those services, you goddamn pinhead.

 

[sangha]

Oddball just does not want to pay any taxes it is as simple as that.
He thinks everyone else should support our government but not him.

Oddball is the ultimate Welfare Queen. His dependency on govt is so deep, he doesn't even see it. Just as a fish doesn't feel the water, Oddball doesn't see his deep dependency.

And like every other wingnut, he runs away from his own words. He claims he earns his money without using the roads, electricity, the internet, the post office or water but he won't back it up.

What's he afraid of?

 

[Synthaholic]

We'll just add this to the ever-growing List of Things Oddball Doesn't Know That Everyone But Wingnuts Know

Meanwhile, maybe you could explain how a welfare queen like you made money without using the roads, the internet, water, the post office, or the electrical grid? I noticed that you totally wimped out on responding to that point

We already pay taxes and fees to access those things, you nitwit.

Speaking of things you "know" that just ain't so.

Oddball is so dumb that he's OK with paying taxes for roads, post office, etc but he opposes paying taxes for roads, post offices, etc

The wingnut probably thinks the roads fix themselves, and the letters mail themselves. The electrons volunteer to flow through the wires, and the Internet is maintained by (fully paid for) robots

He's an imbecile, getting his talking points from Hannity/LEVin types.

He doesn't realize that government doesn't build the roads - they hire private companies and corporations to build the roads. But Oddball doesn't want to tell private industry how much they can charge. That would be SOCIALISM!!! But he also doesn't want to contribute his fair share of taxes in order to pay private industry what they charge and what he's defending, because that would be SOCIALISM!!!

 

[Synthaholic]

Oddball just does not want to pay any taxes it is as simple as that.
He thinks everyone else should support our government but not him.

Oddball is the ultimate Welfare Queen. His dependency on govt is so deep, he doesn't even see it. Just as a fish doesn't feel the water, Oddball doesn't see his deep dependency.

And like every other wingnut, he runs away from his own words. He claims he earns his money without using the roads, electricity, the internet, the post office or water but he won't back it up.

What's he afraid of?

Apparently, he thinks that 30 cents per gallon tax pays for EVERYTHING!!!