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In case you missed it, I proved the quran is not the words of God on my thread " what the quran really says". Allah, the sadistic monster described in the quran is finally dead. Here is the proof.
When the quran says, at sura 21.33 and 36.40 that the sun has an orbit, Imams falsely claim this is a great revelation, because Muhammad knew the sun had an orbit in the galaxy. But this is utter lies, and the quran is actually saying the sun orbits the earth, and I can prove it with the following hadith.
Hadith Bukhari Volume 4, Book 54, Number 421:
Narrated Abu Dhar:
The Prophet asked me at sunset, "Do you know where the sun goes (at the time of sunset)?" I replied, "Allah and His Apostle know better." He said, "It goes (i.e. travels) till it prostrates Itself underneath the Throne and takes the permission to rise again, and it is permitted and then (a time will come when) it will be about to prostrate itself but its prostration will not be accepted, and it will ask permission to go on its course but it will not be permitted, but it will be ordered to return whence it has come and so it will rise in the west. And that is the interpretation of the Statement of Allah: "And the sun Runs its fixed course For a term (decreed). that is The Decree of (Allah) The Exalted in Might, The All-Knowing." (36.38)
As can be seen it says that if the sun changed direction it would rise in the west. But if the sun changed direction in its orbit in the galaxy it would make no difference to the sun rising in the east, because it is the rotation of the earth that causes the appearance of the sun in the east. So this proves that the claim the quran says the sun has an orbit in the galaxy is wrong.Thereby proving Muhammad was a false prophet, and he lied about getting a message from God.
The Koran has more credibility than the Bible? Clearly, you know nothing about this matter at all. There are two mythologies in this world: (1) the superstition of atheism and that of Nimrod (the satanic sun god of history of many guises, including that of Allah). There is but one true God and true word of God: the God of Judeo-Christianity and the Bible. The rest is vanity and illusion.
Mathew, Mark, Luke, and John did not write Mathew, Mark, Luke, and John. We don't know who did. Those names were added later. Jesus made false prophecies, such as his returning within a lifetime, but never did. Somehow this is overlooked by Christians so eager for the emotional rewards (existential security) reaped by faith, without care for what is actually true.
Nonsense.
Mathew, Mark, Luke, and John did not write Mathew, Mark, Luke, and John. We don't know who did. Those names were added later. Jesus made false prophecies, such as his returning within a lifetime, but never did. Somehow this is overlooked by Christians so eager for the emotional rewards (existential security) reaped by faith, without care for what is actually true.
Nonsense.
That is absolutely true. Try researching the authorship of your own bible.
The God of the Old Testament is just as bloodthirsty and vicious.
But Allah and the Christian God both never existed in the first place, so they can't be dead.
So confronting the people and system of Baal is evil, eh?
Are you stupid?...........
So confronting the people and system of Baal is evil, eh?
Are you stupid?...........
Are you stupid?
The sun does in fact orbit the Milky Way.
In case you missed it, I proved the quran is not the words of God on my thread " what the quran really says". Allah, the sadistic monster described in the quran is finally dead. Here is the proof.
When the quran says, at sura 21.33 and 36.40 that the sun has an orbit, Imams falsely claim this is a great revelation, because Muhammad knew the sun had an orbit in the galaxy. But this is utter lies, and the quran is actually saying the sun orbits the earth, and I can prove it with the following hadith.
Hadith Bukhari Volume 4, Book 54, Number 421:
Narrated Abu Dhar:
The Prophet asked me at sunset, "Do you know where the sun goes (at the time of sunset)?" I replied, "Allah and His Apostle know better." He said, "It goes (i.e. travels) till it prostrates Itself underneath the Throne and takes the permission to rise again, and it is permitted and then (a time will come when) it will be about to prostrate itself but its prostration will not be accepted, and it will ask permission to go on its course but it will not be permitted, but it will be ordered to return whence it has come and so it will rise in the west. And that is the interpretation of the Statement of Allah: "And the sun Runs its fixed course For a term (decreed). that is The Decree of (Allah) The Exalted in Might, The All-Knowing." (36.38)
As can be seen it says that if the sun changed direction it would rise in the west. But if the sun changed direction in its orbit in the galaxy it would make no difference to the sun rising in the east, because it is the rotation of the earth that causes the appearance of the sun in the east. So this proves that the claim the quran says the sun has an orbit in the galaxy is wrong.Thereby proving Muhammad was a false prophet, and he lied about getting a message from God.
Your thesis does not match the title thread. If the Quran is wrong, then it is wrong. That has absolutely nothing to do with the status of Allah. The same can be said about the Bible, the Sutras, the Book of the Dead, the Tanakh or any other religious text. They are all written by people and people are all fallible.
In case you missed it, I proved the quran is not the words of God on my thread " what the quran really says". Allah, the sadistic monster described in the quran is finally dead. Here is the proof.
When the quran says, at sura 21.33 and 36.40 that the sun has an orbit, Imams falsely claim this is a great revelation, because Muhammad knew the sun had an orbit in the galaxy. But this is utter lies, and the quran is actually saying the sun orbits the earth, and I can prove it with the following hadith.
Hadith Bukhari Volume 4, Book 54, Number 421:
Narrated Abu Dhar:
The Prophet asked me at sunset, "Do you know where the sun goes (at the time of sunset)?" I replied, "Allah and His Apostle know better." He said, "It goes (i.e. travels) till it prostrates Itself underneath the Throne and takes the permission to rise again, and it is permitted and then (a time will come when) it will be about to prostrate itself but its prostration will not be accepted, and it will ask permission to go on its course but it will not be permitted, but it will be ordered to return whence it has come and so it will rise in the west. And that is the interpretation of the Statement of Allah: "And the sun Runs its fixed course For a term (decreed). that is The Decree of (Allah) The Exalted in Might, The All-Knowing." (36.38)
As can be seen it says that if the sun changed direction it would rise in the west. But if the sun changed direction in its orbit in the galaxy it would make no difference to the sun rising in the east, because it is the rotation of the earth that causes the appearance of the sun in the east. So this proves that the claim the quran says the sun has an orbit in the galaxy is wrong.Thereby proving Muhammad was a false prophet, and he lied about getting a message from God.
Your thesis does not match the title thread. If the Quran is wrong, then it is wrong. That has absolutely nothing to do with the status of Allah. The same can be said about the Bible, the Sutras, the Book of the Dead, the Tanakh or any other religious text. They are all written by people and people are all fallible.
I do not feel that the Bible in it s original manuscript contained error. I however feel that while there might be some question here and there, that for the most part the Bible is 99%without error. I also feel that the Holy Spirit has been working to correct any translational or copy errors through the years. This has prevented any grave error. There is no error in regard to who Christ really is, nor why He arrived. The salvation of those who trust in HIM is entirely solid as a ROCK. People are fallible; however, we can all see that many people are much more fallible than are others. The Quran, as does the Book of Mormon, finds support from the Bible and not the other way around. They are added works of man and not GOD. Man's works are in no way equal to GOD's.
Are you stupid?...........
Are you stupid?
No, I'm smart. You're stupid.........
Nonsense.
That is absolutely true. Try researching the authorship of your own bible.
I'm an accomplished scholar of the Bible. You're making the claims. How about putting the substance of these claims in evidence?
That is absolutely true. Try researching the authorship of your own bible.
I'm an accomplished scholar of the Bible. You're making the claims. How about putting the substance of these claims in evidence?
That doesn't mean much. How narrow is the scope of your scholarship? Obviously you have not taken an objdective look at the authorship of the bible. These basic facts are well known among biblical historians.
That is absolutely true. Try researching the authorship of your own bible.
I'm an accomplished scholar of the Bible. You're making the claims. How about putting the substance of these claims in evidence?
That doesn't mean much. How narrow is the scope of your scholarship? Obviously you have not taken an objdective look at the authorship of the bible. These basic facts are well known among biblical historians.
I'm an accomplished scholar of the Bible. You're making the claims. How about putting the substance of these claims in evidence?
That doesn't mean much. How narrow is the scope of your scholarship? Obviously you have not taken an objdective look at the authorship of the bible. These basic facts are well known among biblical historians.
there are Divine aspects to those books, that is why they still exist despite the pervasive corruption by their scribes.
That doesn't mean much. How narrow is the scope of your scholarship? Obviously you have not taken an objdective look at the authorship of the bible. These basic facts are well known among biblical historians.
there are Divine aspects to those books, that is why they still exist despite the pervasive corruption by their scribes.
Such a claim is utterly subjective and unfalsifiable. A more practical and falsifiable explanation as to why this doctrine exist is because it is immanently usable as a means of political and social control, which we have seen since the 4th century, corroborating my theory with evidence.
there are Divine aspects to those books, that is why they still exist despite the pervasive corruption by their scribes.
Such a claim is utterly subjective and unfalsifiable. A more practical and falsifiable explanation as to why this doctrine exist is because it is immanently usable as a means of political and social control, which we have seen since the 4th century, corroborating my theory with evidence.
How amazing it is to see that you think the doctrine of God is the means of political and social control in history:
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYsNiZWW1eg]Know Your Enemy (Part 70 - The United Religions) - YouTube[/ame]
Such a claim is utterly subjective and unfalsifiable. A more practical and falsifiable explanation as to why this doctrine exist is because it is immanently usable as a means of political and social control, which we have seen since the 4th century, corroborating my theory with evidence.
How amazing it is to see that you think the doctrine of God is the means of political and social control in history:
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYsNiZWW1eg]Know Your Enemy (Part 70 - The United Religions) - YouTube[/ame]
Nearly every European state has associated itself with the church in one r another, and used it as both a means to expand its borders through imperialism and control its population internally, expanding and enhancing its mean of social and political control.
It's quite simple. If you want social control, you create a religion the people willingly partake in because they are convinced it is "needed" for salvation by virtue of mutually exclusive propositions, such as those found in Christianity (Jesus is the only way to Heaven). Then, you absorb that religion to make the state a theocracy effectively creating a monopoly on eternal salvation, and voila, you have people simultaneously and willingly subservient to the state through their obedience to religion, since the state and religion contains no separation. It is a way to keep the poor inline and discouraged from revolution against the ruling elite who subjugate them, by causing them to feel vindicated of their place in society at the bottom by the religious doctrine itself. They put aside their suffering and poor lot and see it as vindicated by promise of a supposed eternal reward. As Marx accurately described, Religion truly is the opiate of the masses.
How amazing it is to see that you think the doctrine of God is the means of political and social control in history:
Know Your Enemy (Part 70 - The United Religions) - YouTube
Nearly every European state has associated itself with the church in one r another, and used it as both a means to expand its borders through imperialism and control its population internally, expanding and enhancing its mean of social and political control.
It's quite simple. If you want social control, you create a religion the people willingly partake in because they are convinced it is "needed" for salvation by virtue of mutually exclusive propositions, such as those found in Christianity (Jesus is the only way to Heaven). Then, you absorb that religion to make the state a theocracy effectively creating a monopoly on eternal salvation, and voila, you have people simultaneously and willingly subservient to the state through their obedience to religion, since the state and religion contains no separation. It is a way to keep the poor inline and discouraged from revolution against the ruling elite who subjugate them, by causing them to feel vindicated of their place in society at the bottom by the religious doctrine itself. They put aside their suffering and poor lot and see it as vindicated by promise of a supposed eternal reward. As Marx accurately described, Religion truly is the opiate of the masses.
What church are you talking about? Marx was a vicious degenerate. And I've got a little new flash for ya: atheism is not the worlds future at all.
Nearly every European state has associated itself with the church in one r another, and used it as both a means to expand its borders through imperialism and control its population internally, expanding and enhancing its mean of social and political control.
It's quite simple. If you want social control, you create a religion the people willingly partake in because they are convinced it is "needed" for salvation by virtue of mutually exclusive propositions, such as those found in Christianity (Jesus is the only way to Heaven). Then, you absorb that religion to make the state a theocracy effectively creating a monopoly on eternal salvation, and voila, you have people simultaneously and willingly subservient to the state through their obedience to religion, since the state and religion contains no separation. It is a way to keep the poor inline and discouraged from revolution against the ruling elite who subjugate them, by causing them to feel vindicated of their place in society at the bottom by the religious doctrine itself. They put aside their suffering and poor lot and see it as vindicated by promise of a supposed eternal reward. As Marx accurately described, Religion truly is the opiate of the masses.
What church are you talking about? Marx was a vicious degenerate. And I've got a little new flash for ya: atheism is not the world’s future at all.
What church are you talking about ... Jesus is the only way to Heaven
is there anything written by Marx that is the equal to "vicious degenerate" as that written by scribes in the Christian Bible for the above reference to JC ?
