All You Bundy Lovers....Your New Hero Speaks....Shoots Self in Foot

[ogibillm]

hero? Seriously, you guys need to understand that just because we support someone's rights, doesn't mean they are a hero.

you supports someone's right to steal?

 

[BlindBoo]

Sounds just like my PaPa did from South Louisiana. He was born in 1895.

 

[PredFan]

Typical idiot liberal. Because we support human rights and don't like government aggression, to the limited liberal mind it means we love the guy and we espouse everything he thinks and says.

You really have to have a diminished mental capacity to be liberal.

From the Department of Redundancy Department:

"Idiot Liberal"

 

[rightwinger]

I realize you are suffering from George Zimmerman withdrawal syndrome, but it's so nice that your new hero is speaking up and revealing himself as the true American he...and you stupid rednecks...perceive him to be:


“I want to tell you one more thing I know about the Negro,” he said. Mr. Bundy recalled driving past a public-housing project in North Las Vegas, “and in front of that government house the door was usually open and the older people and the kids — and there is always at least a half a dozen people sitting on the porch — they didn’t have nothing to do. They didn’t have nothing for their kids to do. They didn’t have nothing for their young girls to do.

“And because they were basically on government subsidy, so now what do they do?” he asked. “They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton. And I’ve often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn’t get no more freedom. They got less freedom.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/24/u...ming-a-hero-in-the-west.html?hpw&rref=us&_r=0

Is anyone surprised at the real Clive Bundy?

Is anyone surprised at the number of posters on this board who will agree with him?

 

[rightwinger]

it looks like a hit piece


how long til he is a child rapist

It "looks" like a hit piece? Did you read the article or just my post?
It's a direct quote. Looks like he hit himself pretty good.

How long til' the Tea Party asks him to run for office is a better question.

He's an old man using old man terminology. I don't believe he's being hateful. Just old fashioned.

He's right that American blacks have been ushered into this "give me" Welfare mentality and have been literally trained by a liberal government that they don't need to work as long as they keep voting Democrat. It's the only way the Dems can remain in office. The Libs have created today's entitlement culture.

Here we have a man receiving a million dollars in Federal Welfare mocking "negroes" who are on welfare

 

[Stephanie]

So I guess we label the left/liberals as Bundy haters?

how sad is it fits them

 

[tinydancer]

Aha, you and rdean running with the same talking points this morning. I love it.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Not just racist and ignorant.

He reinforces that he's on welfare and is against others being on welfare.

Just like some rw's here.

Right [MENTION=1668]Stephanie[/MENTION] ...?

 

[ogibillm]

Typical idiot liberal. Because we support human rights and don't like government aggression, to the limited liberal mind it means we love the guy and we espouse everything he thinks and says.

You really have to have a diminished mental capacity to be liberal.

From the Department of Redundancy Department:

"Idiot Liberal"

which of Bundy's 'human rights' was infringed upon by requiring he pay for the use of land that wasn't his?

 

[martybegan]

Ok, IF this guy is a racist (his words appear to confirm that but, it could possibly be a misquote or just a very unsophisticated and unfortunate choice of words), imho it doesn't have any bearing on the real issue.

In the United States you have the right to be as stupid as you want to be. I'm not interested in "reforming" him or "demonizing" him or "idolizing" him. I just think he ought to pay what he owes - period.

I understand that his words seem to indicate a particular "mindset" but personally, I don't give two hoots about his mindset. Just pay up. If he chooses not to pay what he owes, that choice should have consequences. And the same goes for anybody - no matter what their political persuasion.

That's MHO.

Basically what his position SEEMS to be is what several people on this board have said. That entitlements have ruined black inner city culture and society. What he did wrong is the way he said it, which quite frankly is about as offensive as you can get. Bringing up cotton picking is idiotic.

His tone does not imply hatred of black people, nor do his words. It implies an observation of a situation.

Again, though, his choice of words was quite frankly horrific.

Choice of words?

No.

The guy was speaking from his heart. This is obviously a conversation he's had many times.

He said American people who are black would be happier picking cotton and being slaves.

That's quite a view.

He was wondering if they would be happier picking cotton and being slaves as compared to the situation they were in now. He was observing a housing project, not known to be the best living conditions out there.

His words are bad enough, you don't need to modify them to make your point.

And I’ve often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy?

 

[tinydancer]

It "looks" like a hit piece? Did you read the article or just my post?
It's a direct quote. Looks like he hit himself pretty good.

How long til' the Tea Party asks him to run for office is a better question.

He's an old man using old man terminology. I don't believe he's being hateful. Just old fashioned.

He's right that American blacks have been ushered into this "give me" Welfare mentality and have been literally trained by a liberal government that they don't need to work as long as they keep voting Democrat. It's the only way the Dems can remain in office. The Libs have created today's entitlement culture.

Here we have a man receiving a million dollars in Federal Welfare mocking "negroes" who are on welfare

How is he mocking blacks? He's spot on that once you are on welfare you do lose your freedom.

And puhleeeeeeeeeeeze trying to make Bundy out to be a welfare queen is laughable. He's got a beef with the BLM and he's not the only one.

 

[nodoginnafight]

Ok, IF this guy is a racist (his words appear to confirm that but, it could possibly be a misquote or just a very unsophisticated and unfortunate choice of words), imho it doesn't have any bearing on the real issue.

In the United States you have the right to be as stupid as you want to be. I'm not interested in "reforming" him or "demonizing" him or "idolizing" him. I just think he ought to pay what he owes - period.

I understand that his words seem to indicate a particular "mindset" but personally, I don't give two hoots about his mindset. Just pay up. If he chooses not to pay what he owes, that choice should have consequences. And the same goes for anybody - no matter what their political persuasion.

That's MHO.

Basically what his position SEEMS to be is what several people on this board have said. That entitlements have ruined black inner city culture and society. What he did wrong is the way he said it, which quite frankly is about as offensive as you can get. Bringing up cotton picking is idiotic.

His tone does not imply hatred of black people, nor do his words. It implies an observation of a situation.

Again, though, his choice of words was quite frankly horrific.

Well, honestly, I don't think the fact that there are people on these boards who echo his sentiments is a real ringing endorsement. There are plenty of racists on these boards.

But if you interpret his remarks as lamenting a culture of entitlement, he may be right. But his views are more than a little ironic considering he has been feeding his cattle off the government teat for free for decades.

Mr. Pot, this is Mr Kettle.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Typical idiot liberal. Because we support human rights and don't like government aggression, to the limited liberal mind it means we love the guy and we espouse everything he thinks and says.

You really have to have a diminished mental capacity to be liberal.

From the Department of Redundancy Department:

"Idiot Liberal"

Read the Federalist Papers and about the Whiskey Rebellion.

 

[PredFan]

Typical idiot liberal. Because we support human rights and don't like government aggression, to the limited liberal mind it means we love the guy and we espouse everything he thinks and says.

You really have to have a diminished mental capacity to be liberal.

From the Department of Redundancy Department:

"Idiot Liberal"

which of Bundy's 'human rights' was infringed upon by requiring he pay for the use of land that wasn't his?

Dodge noted and ignored.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Typical idiot liberal. Because we support human rights and don't like government aggression, to the limited liberal mind it means we love the guy and we espouse everything he thinks and says.

You really have to have a diminished mental capacity to be liberal.

From the Department of Redundancy Department:

"Idiot Liberal"

which of Bundy's 'human rights' was infringed upon by requiring he pay for the use of land that wasn't his?

and that he had previously agreed to pay for.

He signed the contract.

Used to be that one's word, one's signature was worth something. Not any more though.

 

[martybegan]

Basically what his position SEEMS to be is what several people on this board have said. That entitlements have ruined black inner city culture and society. What he did wrong is the way he said it, which quite frankly is about as offensive as you can get. Bringing up cotton picking is idiotic.

His tone does not imply hatred of black people, nor do his words. It implies an observation of a situation.

Again, though, his choice of words was quite frankly horrific.

he didn't just bring up cotton picking, he claimed that black people were better off as slaves, more free even.

to me that shows a belief in racial superiority/inferiority.

but as nodoginnafight said, the only issue worth caring about is how much of a freeloading criminal this guy is.

He wondered about it, i.e. he was asking the question, not making the statement one way or the other.

And I’ve often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy?

 

[PredFan]

Typical idiot liberal. Because we support human rights and don't like government aggression, to the limited liberal mind it means we love the guy and we espouse everything he thinks and says.

You really have to have a diminished mental capacity to be liberal.

From the Department of Redundancy Department:

"Idiot Liberal"

Read the Federalist Papers and about the Whiskey Rebellion.

Dodge noted and ignored.

 

[martybegan]

Typical idiot liberal. Because we support human rights and don't like government aggression, to the limited liberal mind it means we love the guy and we espouse everything he thinks and says.

You really have to have a diminished mental capacity to be liberal.

From the Department of Redundancy Department:

"Idiot Liberal"

which of Bundy's 'human rights' was infringed upon by requiring he pay for the use of land that wasn't his?

and that he had previously agreed to pay for.

He signed the contract.

Used to be that one's word, one's signature was worth something. Not any more though.

The government unilaterally changed the contract. He disputed it.

 

[Katzndogz]

There is no way to know what Bundy actually said. If he said anything. A quote in the New York Times can be as real as Peter Pan's shadow. Didn't NBC edit George Zimmerman's statements to make him appear racist?

It's the race card, which is the trump card and is supposed to take away everything else. When all else fails "He's a racist" will make it all better. Overthrowing the race card should be a primary goal of whatever part of America is still capable of rising.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Typical idiot liberal. Because we support human rights and don't like government aggression, to the limited liberal mind it means we love the guy and we espouse everything he thinks and says.

You really have to have a diminished mental capacity to be liberal.

From the Department of Redundancy Department:

"Idiot Liberal"

which of Bundy's 'human rights' was infringed upon by requiring he pay for the use of land that wasn't his?

Dodge noted and ignored.

You said it.

Now you're dodging answering the question.