All The News Anti-Israel Posters Will Not Read Or Discuss

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The New York Times is being condemned for publishing a nearly-15-minute long propaganda video criticizing Israel for an attack that “could be a war crime.”

The video, headlined, “Gaza’s Deadly Night: How Israeli Airstrikes Killed 44 People,” carries the bylines of a staggering ten people: “Evan Hill, Ainara Tiefenthäler, John Ismay, Christiaan Triebert, Soliman Hijjy, Phil Robibero, Drew Jordan, Yousur Al-Hlou, Christoph Koettl and Patrick Kingsley.”

THE VIDEO, IN TYPICAL TIMES STYLE, IS FULL OF SELF-CONGRATULATORY AND SELF-REFERENTIAL HYPE.

“THE TIMES SPENT MORE THAN A MONTH INVESTIGATING THESE ATTACKS TO FIND OUT WHAT WENT WRONG,” A NARRATOR SOLEMNLY INTONES. “IT WAS A COMPLICATED AND INTENSE MONTH-LONG TEAM EFFORT.”

BUT, ALSO IN TYPICAL TIMES STYLE, ALL THIS WORK BY ALL THESE PEOPLE ULTIMATELY DELIVERS NOT MUCH. “EXPERTS SAY THAT THE TYPE OF ISRAELI STRIKES WE DOCUMENTED CAN EASILY LEAD TO CATASTROPHE AND COULD BE A WAR CRIME,” THE SCRIPT FOR THE DOCUMENTARY SPECULATES. “COULD BE?” AFTER ALL THAT EFFORT THE TIMES CAN’T EVEN FIND AN EXPERT TO SAY IT “IS,” A WAR CRIME, JUST THAT IT “COULD” BE? AND THE EXPERT TURNS OUT TO BE FROM THE NOTORIOUSLY ANTI-ISRAEL GROUP AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL: “SALEH HIGAZI OF AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL SAID THAT ISRAEL SHOULD HAVE FORESEEN THE DISASTROUS EFFECTS OF SUCH STRIKES ON A DENSE CIVILIAN NEIGHBORHOOD COULD HAVE. ATTACKING ANYWAY, WITHOUT WARNING AND WITH HEAVY BOMBS, COULD BE A WAR CRIME AND SHOULD BE PART OF AN ONGOING INVESTIGATION INTO PALESTINE BY THE INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL COURT, HE SAID.”

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“Given #Hamas‘ authoritarian control of Gaza, viewers have a right to know how and under what circumstances and conditions journalists accessed witnesses and victims, how they met with ‘Gaza police,’ how missile fragments were neatly collected, piled and identified, etc.” Satloff wrote in a thread on Twitter. “It is really shocking that @nytimes would endorse this video without giving viewers a full accounting of the role that #Hamas played, directly and indirectly, in its making, especially given its disturbing accusations. Viewers/readers of the NYT deserve better.”


(full article online)

It’s worth noting at the outset that, while such a debate exists in the Israeli media, the US media remains, as ever, absolutely silent on the matter. Americans who get their information about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict only from the nightly news or papers like the New York Times and Washington Post would never even know that there is a discussion about it. Not only that, but they would have absolutely no familiarity at all with the idea that Palestine was ethnically cleansed of most of its Arab inhabitants in 1948. That this occurred (or even that this might have occurred) is entirely absent from the discussion; it is simply wiped from history altogether, in the narrative of the conflict propagated by the US media
 
In the wake of the heavy handed Palestinian security forces attacking protesters over the past three days, people criticized the EU for funding the Palestinian police.

In response, the European Union and the Palestinians explained exactly what they fund for Palestinians:

The EU does not provide any financial or technical assistance to the Palestinian Security Forces other than technical assistance to the Palestinian Civil Police. Our funding pays salaries for nurses, doctors and teachers, and contributes to the financial support to the poorest Palestinian families in the West Bank and Gaza. We also finance major infrastructure projects, support civil society and the business sector, notably micro and small enterprises, implement projects to preserve the Palestinian identity of Area C and East Jerusalem, and remain the major partner of UNRWA. The EU has the most robust monitoring mechanism in place to ensure that every Euro is actually spent as intended.
We already knew this, but here the EU says it explicitly: they regard all of east Jerusalem, Judea and Samaria to be Palestinian territory - not something to be negotiated between the parties. And they will spend a large amount of EU money to oppose Israel's claims on those areas.

And it does this even though those areas were never "Palestinian."

(full article online)

We already knew this, but here the EU says it explicitly: they regard all of east Jerusalem, Judea and Samaria to be Palestinian territory
That's because it is.
The Pallys never held sovereignty over any of the areas. Your belief that a promise from the inventor of Islamism that the areas are waqf, (an entitlement to Moslems), causes your hurt feelings.

We're not in the 7th century. Check your calendar.
 
The New York Times is being condemned for publishing a nearly-15-minute long propaganda video criticizing Israel for an attack that “could be a war crime.”

The video, headlined, “Gaza’s Deadly Night: How Israeli Airstrikes Killed 44 People,” carries the bylines of a staggering ten people: “Evan Hill, Ainara Tiefenthäler, John Ismay, Christiaan Triebert, Soliman Hijjy, Phil Robibero, Drew Jordan, Yousur Al-Hlou, Christoph Koettl and Patrick Kingsley.”

THE VIDEO, IN TYPICAL TIMES STYLE, IS FULL OF SELF-CONGRATULATORY AND SELF-REFERENTIAL HYPE.

“THE TIMES SPENT MORE THAN A MONTH INVESTIGATING THESE ATTACKS TO FIND OUT WHAT WENT WRONG,” A NARRATOR SOLEMNLY INTONES. “IT WAS A COMPLICATED AND INTENSE MONTH-LONG TEAM EFFORT.”

BUT, ALSO IN TYPICAL TIMES STYLE, ALL THIS WORK BY ALL THESE PEOPLE ULTIMATELY DELIVERS NOT MUCH. “EXPERTS SAY THAT THE TYPE OF ISRAELI STRIKES WE DOCUMENTED CAN EASILY LEAD TO CATASTROPHE AND COULD BE A WAR CRIME,” THE SCRIPT FOR THE DOCUMENTARY SPECULATES. “COULD BE?” AFTER ALL THAT EFFORT THE TIMES CAN’T EVEN FIND AN EXPERT TO SAY IT “IS,” A WAR CRIME, JUST THAT IT “COULD” BE? AND THE EXPERT TURNS OUT TO BE FROM THE NOTORIOUSLY ANTI-ISRAEL GROUP AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL: “SALEH HIGAZI OF AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL SAID THAT ISRAEL SHOULD HAVE FORESEEN THE DISASTROUS EFFECTS OF SUCH STRIKES ON A DENSE CIVILIAN NEIGHBORHOOD COULD HAVE. ATTACKING ANYWAY, WITHOUT WARNING AND WITH HEAVY BOMBS, COULD BE A WAR CRIME AND SHOULD BE PART OF AN ONGOING INVESTIGATION INTO PALESTINE BY THE INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL COURT, HE SAID.”

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“Given #Hamas‘ authoritarian control of Gaza, viewers have a right to know how and under what circumstances and conditions journalists accessed witnesses and victims, how they met with ‘Gaza police,’ how missile fragments were neatly collected, piled and identified, etc.” Satloff wrote in a thread on Twitter. “It is really shocking that @nytimes would endorse this video without giving viewers a full accounting of the role that #Hamas played, directly and indirectly, in its making, especially given its disturbing accusations. Viewers/readers of the NYT deserve better.”


(full article online)

It’s worth noting at the outset that, while such a debate exists in the Israeli media, the US media remains, as ever, absolutely silent on the matter. Americans who get their information about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict only from the nightly news or papers like the New York Times and Washington Post would never even know that there is a discussion about it. Not only that, but they would have absolutely no familiarity at all with the idea that Palestine was ethnically cleansed of most of its Arab inhabitants in 1948. That this occurred (or even that this might have occurred) is entirely absent from the discussion; it is simply wiped from history altogether, in the narrative of the conflict propagated by the US media

The New York Times and the Washington Post are pro Israel? I would rethink that by actually reading those newspapers.

TranJordan is part of Palestine, as it was of the Mandate for Palestine. One people were ethnically cleansed from the area in 1925. Who were they?

There are consequences during a war.

The Arab leaders told the Arab population in the south to leave and they would be able to return after two weeks, after the Arab States put an end to Israel.

The Arabs in the North stayed and continue to live there.

Arabs who fought against Israel, and had no intention of stopping killing Jews, plus those who were not going to be loyal to Jews and also want to kill them, THOSE Arabs ended up being expelled from Israel.

In other words "Palestine was NOT ethnically cleansed of most of its Arabs"

The Arab leaders like Husseini and Arafat have a huge deal of responsibility in making those people leave with the promise of a quick return after all Jews were to be killed and the land taken over.

Ooooops. They lost the war, and many Arabs never got to return, exactly because they wanted to see Israel destroyed.

What country on earth would allow thousands on people back in, especially if those people would like to see your citizens dead?
 


The Palestinian Arabs refused to recognize this arrangement, which they regarded as favorable to the Jews and unfair to the Arab population that would remain in Jewish territory under the partition. The United States sought a middle way by supporting the United Nations resolution, but also encouraging negotiations between Arabs and Jews in the Middle East
 


How much aid does the U.S. give Israel?
The United States has given Israel a total of $146 billion in bilateral assistance and missile defense funding through 2020, according to the Congressional Research Service (CRS), which provides nonpartisan research to lawmakers. That makes it the largest cumulative recipient of U.S. foreign aid since World War II. (Other top recipients include Egypt and Afghanistan.
 


The Palestinian Arabs refused to recognize this arrangement, which they regarded as favorable to the Jews and unfair to the Arab population that would remain in Jewish territory under the partition. The United States sought a middle way by supporting the United Nations resolution, but also encouraging negotiations between Arabs and Jews in the Middle East

As you have been told before, but do not seem to understand, some Arab leaders could not fathom Jews being sovereign over Muslims.

Those leaders crushed the Arab clans which were for the re creation of Israel and most of the Arab population against the Jews and Israel's creation.

They could not accept Partition 1 in 1936 and again rejected Partition 2 in 1947. The Jewish leaders accepted both partitions both times.

Once Israel declared Independence many Arab states invaded Israel the next day in order to destroy it.

Jews are never to be sovereign over Muslims.
 
Surprisingly, many people who were not sympathetic to the Zionist cause believed the Jews would improve the condition of Palestinian Arabs. For example, Dawood Barakat, editor of the Egyptian paper Al-Ahram, wrote: “It is absolutely necessary that an entente be made between the Zionists and Arabs, because the war of words can only do evil. The Zionists are necessary for the country: The money which they will bring, their knowledge and intelligence, and the industriousness which characterizes them will contribute without doubt to the regeneration of the country.”

Even a leading Arab nationalist believed the return of the Jews to their homeland would help resuscitate the country. According to Sherif Hussein, the guardian of the Islamic Holy Places in Arabia:

The resources of the country are still virgin soil and will be developed by the Jewish immigrants. One of the most amazing things until recent times was that the Palestinian used to leave his country, wandering over the high seas in every direction. His native soil could not retain a hold on him, though his ancestors had lived on it for 1000 years. At the same time, we have seen the Jews from foreign countries streaming to Palestine from Russia, Germany, Austria, Spain, America. The cause of causes could not escape those who had a gift of deeper insight. They knew that the country was for its original sons (abna’ihilasliyin), for all their differences, a sacred and beloved homeland. The return of these exiles (jaliya) to their homeland will prove materially and spiritually [to be] an experimental school for their brethren who are with them in the fields, factories, trades and in all things connected with toil and labor.

 


The Palestinian Arabs refused to recognize this arrangement, which they regarded as favorable to the Jews and unfair to the Arab population that would remain in Jewish territory under the partition. The United States sought a middle way by supporting the United Nations resolution, but also encouraging negotiations between Arabs and Jews in the Middle East

As you have been told before, but do not seem to understand, some Arab leaders could not fathom Jews being sovereign over Muslims.

Those leaders crushed the Arab clans which were for the re creation of Israel and most of the Arab population against the Jews and Israel's creation.

They could not accept Partition 1 in 1936 and again rejected Partition 2 in 1947. The Jewish leaders accepted both partitions both times.

Once Israel declared Independence many Arab states invaded Israel the next day in order to destroy it.

Jews are never to be sovereign over Muslims.

Which is why they had to be ethnically cleansed?
 


British trained forces from Transjordan eventually intervened in the conflict, but only in areas that had been designated as part of the Arab state under the United Nations Partition Plan and the corpus separatum of Jerusalem

The British helped train the Hashemites and were with them when Jordan invaded Israel in May 1948.

You seem to misread what is written for lack of knowledge as to what actually happened during the Mandate for Palestine.
 


How much aid does the U.S. give Israel?
The United States has given Israel a total of $146 billion in bilateral assistance and missile defense funding through 2020, according to the Congressional Research Service (CRS), which provides nonpartisan research to lawmakers. That makes it the largest cumulative recipient of U.S. foreign aid since World War II. (Other top recipients include Egypt and Afghanistan.

This is what Israel has given back to the US.



On the other hand, the Palestinians take, and take and take and have given the US, EU, and others back.....what?
 


The Palestinian Arabs refused to recognize this arrangement, which they regarded as favorable to the Jews and unfair to the Arab population that would remain in Jewish territory under the partition. The United States sought a middle way by supporting the United Nations resolution, but also encouraging negotiations between Arabs and Jews in the Middle East

As you have been told before, but do not seem to understand, some Arab leaders could not fathom Jews being sovereign over Muslims.

Those leaders crushed the Arab clans which were for the re creation of Israel and most of the Arab population against the Jews and Israel's creation.

They could not accept Partition 1 in 1936 and again rejected Partition 2 in 1947. The Jewish leaders accepted both partitions both times.

Once Israel declared Independence many Arab states invaded Israel the next day in order to destroy it.

Jews are never to be sovereign over Muslims.

Resolution 181 and the Early Phases of the 1948 War
Despite their best efforts, by the end of the Mandate, the Jewish settlers had managed to acquire only about 7 percent of the land in Palestine. Arabs owned more land than Jews in every single district, including Jaffa, which included the largest Jewish population center, Tel Aviv. According to the UNSCOP report, “The Arab population, despite the strenuous efforts of Jews to acquire land in Palestine, at present remains in possession of approximately 85 percent of the land.” A subcommittee report further observed that “The bulk of the land in the Arab State, as well as in the proposed Jewish State, is owned and possessed by Arabs” (emphasis added). Furthermore, the Jewish population in the area of their proposed state was 498,000, while the number of Arabs was 407,000 plus an estimated 105,000 Bedouins. “In other words,” the subcommittee report noted, “at the outset, the Arabs will have a majority in the proposed Jewish State.”

UNSCOP nevertheless proposed that the Arab state be constituted from about 44 percent of the whole of Palestine, while the Jews would be awarded about 55 percent for their state, including the best agricultural lands. The committee was not incognizant of how this plan prejudiced the rights of the majority Arab population. In fact, in keeping with the prejudice inherent in the Mandate, the UNSCOP report explicitly rejected the right of the Arab Palestinians to self-determination. The “principle of self-determination” was “not applied to Palestine,” the report stated, “obviously because of the intention to make possible the creation of the Jewish National Home there. Actually, it may well be said that the Jewish National Home and the sui generis Mandate for Palestine run counter to that principle
 


The Palestinian Arabs refused to recognize this arrangement, which they regarded as favorable to the Jews and unfair to the Arab population that would remain in Jewish territory under the partition. The United States sought a middle way by supporting the United Nations resolution, but also encouraging negotiations between Arabs and Jews in the Middle East

As you have been told before, but do not seem to understand, some Arab leaders could not fathom Jews being sovereign over Muslims.

Those leaders crushed the Arab clans which were for the re creation of Israel and most of the Arab population against the Jews and Israel's creation.

They could not accept Partition 1 in 1936 and again rejected Partition 2 in 1947. The Jewish leaders accepted both partitions both times.

Once Israel declared Independence many Arab states invaded Israel the next day in order to destroy it.

Jews are never to be sovereign over Muslims.

 


We give money to Egypt and Jordan so that they don't attack israel

That was the term they, Egypt and Jordan, accepted in order to sign the Peace treaties. Give and take. The US gets something out of giving them the money.

So the money we give to Egypt and Jordan is really for Israel too
 


The Palestinian Arabs refused to recognize this arrangement, which they regarded as favorable to the Jews and unfair to the Arab population that would remain in Jewish territory under the partition. The United States sought a middle way by supporting the United Nations resolution, but also encouraging negotiations between Arabs and Jews in the Middle East

As you have been told before, but do not seem to understand, some Arab leaders could not fathom Jews being sovereign over Muslims.

Those leaders crushed the Arab clans which were for the re creation of Israel and most of the Arab population against the Jews and Israel's creation.

They could not accept Partition 1 in 1936 and again rejected Partition 2 in 1947. The Jewish leaders accepted both partitions both times.

Once Israel declared Independence many Arab states invaded Israel the next day in order to destroy it.

Jews are never to be sovereign over Muslims.

Resolution 181 and the Early Phases of the 1948 War
Despite their best efforts, by the end of the Mandate, the Jewish settlers had managed to acquire only about 7 percent of the land in Palestine. Arabs owned more land than Jews in every single district, including Jaffa, which included the largest Jewish population center, Tel Aviv. According to the UNSCOP report, “The Arab population, despite the strenuous efforts of Jews to acquire land in Palestine, at present remains in possession of approximately 85 percent of the land.” A subcommittee report further observed that “The bulk of the land in the Arab State, as well as in the proposed Jewish State, is owned and possessed by Arabs” (emphasis added). Furthermore, the Jewish population in the area of their proposed state was 498,000, while the number of Arabs was 407,000 plus an estimated 105,000 Bedouins. “In other words,” the subcommittee report noted, “at the outset, the Arabs will have a majority in the proposed Jewish State.”

UNSCOP nevertheless proposed that the Arab state be constituted from about 44 percent of the whole of Palestine, while the Jews would be awarded about 55 percent for their state, including the best agricultural lands. The committee was not incognizant of how this plan prejudiced the rights of the majority Arab population. In fact, in keeping with the prejudice inherent in the Mandate, the UNSCOP report explicitly rejected the right of the Arab Palestinians to self-determination. The “principle of self-determination” was “not applied to Palestine,” the report stated, “obviously because of the intention to make possible the creation of the Jewish National Home there. Actually, it may well be said that the Jewish National Home and the sui generis Mandate for Palestine run counter to that principle

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By the way:

The Mandate for Palestine was The Mandate for Israel.

They declared war on the Jews from 1920.

Refused two Partitions.

The Arabs wanted it all to be in Muslim hands, just as 78% of the Mandate already was in the Hashemite Muslim hands since 1922.
 


How much aid does the U.S. give Israel?
The United States has given Israel a total of $146 billion in bilateral assistance and missile defense funding through 2020, according to the Congressional Research Service (CRS), which provides nonpartisan research to lawmakers. That makes it the largest cumulative recipient of U.S. foreign aid since World War II. (Other top recipients include Egypt and Afghanistan.

This is what Israel has given back to the US.



On the other hand, the Palestinians take, and take and take and have given the US, EU, and others back.....what?

The West Bank cooperates with Israeli police. The west Bank has been at peace with israel
 


The Palestinian Arabs refused to recognize this arrangement, which they regarded as favorable to the Jews and unfair to the Arab population that would remain in Jewish territory under the partition. The United States sought a middle way by supporting the United Nations resolution, but also encouraging negotiations between Arabs and Jews in the Middle East

As you have been told before, but do not seem to understand, some Arab leaders could not fathom Jews being sovereign over Muslims.

Those leaders crushed the Arab clans which were for the re creation of Israel and most of the Arab population against the Jews and Israel's creation.

They could not accept Partition 1 in 1936 and again rejected Partition 2 in 1947. The Jewish leaders accepted both partitions both times.

Once Israel declared Independence many Arab states invaded Israel the next day in order to destroy it.

Jews are never to be sovereign over Muslims.

Resolution 181 and the Early Phases of the 1948 War
Despite their best efforts, by the end of the Mandate, the Jewish settlers had managed to acquire only about 7 percent of the land in Palestine. Arabs owned more land than Jews in every single district, including Jaffa, which included the largest Jewish population center, Tel Aviv. According to the UNSCOP report, “The Arab population, despite the strenuous efforts of Jews to acquire land in Palestine, at present remains in possession of approximately 85 percent of the land.” A subcommittee report further observed that “The bulk of the land in the Arab State, as well as in the proposed Jewish State, is owned and possessed by Arabs” (emphasis added). Furthermore, the Jewish population in the area of their proposed state was 498,000, while the number of Arabs was 407,000 plus an estimated 105,000 Bedouins. “In other words,” the subcommittee report noted, “at the outset, the Arabs will have a majority in the proposed Jewish State.”

UNSCOP nevertheless proposed that the Arab state be constituted from about 44 percent of the whole of Palestine, while the Jews would be awarded about 55 percent for their state, including the best agricultural lands. The committee was not incognizant of how this plan prejudiced the rights of the majority Arab population. In fact, in keeping with the prejudice inherent in the Mandate, the UNSCOP report explicitly rejected the right of the Arab Palestinians to self-determination. The “principle of self-determination” was “not applied to Palestine,” the report stated, “obviously because of the intention to make possible the creation of the Jewish National Home there. Actually, it may well be said that the Jewish National Home and the sui generis Mandate for Palestine run counter to that principle

Take this post to the other thread:



By the way:

The Mandate for Palestine was The Mandate for Israel.

They declared war on the Jews from 1920.

Refused two Partitions.

The Arabs wanted it all to be in Muslim hands, just as 78% of the Mandate already was in the Hashemite Muslim hands since 1922.

It's OK to ethnically cleanse people who have a lot of land
 
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