Air Force awards Boeing $35 billion contract

[VaYank5150]

NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- The Air Force announced Thursday it awarded a $3.5 billion initial contract to Boeing for the production of 18 next-generation aerial refueling tankers.

That is a down payment on a contract worth about $35 billion for 179 planes.

Air Force awards Boeing $3.5 billion contract - Feb. 24, 2011

Meanwhile, in IN and WI, American employees are being stripped of bargaining rights, because our country and it's states cannot afford to pay them what they think they are worth.

 

[VaYank5150]

I like this part of the article best:

Originally needed to keep B-52 nuclear bombers in the air for long periods of time, the Stratotanker quickly found new missions in Vietnam, where it enabled small fighter bombers to strike targets anywhere in the country. It revolutionized the use of air power, and is continuing to play that role in Iraq and Afghanistan.

These refueling aircraft are not needed for defense. They are needed to refuel aircraft operating offensively in other countries. Where is the Tea Party outrage?

 

[Cecilie1200]

NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- The Air Force announced Thursday it awarded a $3.5 billion initial contract to Boeing for the production of 18 next-generation aerial refueling tankers.

That is a down payment on a contract worth about $35 billion for 179 planes.

Air Force awards Boeing $3.5 billion contract - Feb. 24, 2011

Meanwhile, in IN and WI, American employees are being stripped of bargaining rights, because our country and it's states cannot afford to pay them what they think they are worth.

One, what the Department of the Defense, a branch of the FEDERAL government, does with its budget has fuck-all to do with what a STATE can and cannot afford to do with ITS budget. Two, wah wah wah! How many of us get paid what WE think we're worth, and how many of us actually feel justified in having a huge, screaming tantrum about it on national television? You get paid what your EMPLOYER thinks you're worth to him, and if you're lucky, it's not too much less than what YOU think you deserve and wish you could get.

 

[VaYank5150]

NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- The Air Force announced Thursday it awarded a $3.5 billion initial contract to Boeing for the production of 18 next-generation aerial refueling tankers.

That is a down payment on a contract worth about $35 billion for 179 planes.

Air Force awards Boeing $3.5 billion contract - Feb. 24, 2011

Meanwhile, in IN and WI, American employees are being stripped of bargaining rights, because our country and it's states cannot afford to pay them what they think they are worth.

One, what the Department of the Defense, a branch of the FEDERAL government, does with its budget has fuck-all to do with what a STATE can and cannot afford to do with ITS budget. Two, wah wah wah! How many of us get paid what WE think we're worth, and how many of us actually feel justified in having a huge, screaming tantrum about it on national television? You get paid what your EMPLOYER thinks you're worth to him, and if you're lucky, it's not too much less than what YOU think you deserve and wish you could get.

It is unfortunate that people like you cannot or simply will not see the bigger picture. Federal/state/local....does not matter. We are ALL Americans and if our elected officials and the people who put them in power could get their heads out of their asses long enough to see and understand this, we would all be much better off. And what else? Boeing is a UNION contractor.

 

[Agit8r]

Air Force awards Boeing $3.5 billion contract - Feb. 24, 2011

Meanwhile, in IN and WI, American employees are being stripped of bargaining rights, because our country and it's states cannot afford to pay them what they think they are worth.

One, what the Department of the Defense, a branch of the FEDERAL government, does with its budget has fuck-all to do with what a STATE can and cannot afford to do with ITS budget. Two, wah wah wah! How many of us get paid what WE think we're worth, and how many of us actually feel justified in having a huge, screaming tantrum about it on national television? You get paid what your EMPLOYER thinks you're worth to him, and if you're lucky, it's not too much less than what YOU think you deserve and wish you could get.

It is unfortunate that people like you cannot or simply will not see the bigger picture. Federal/state/local....does not matter. We are ALL Americans and if our elected officials and the people who put them in power could get their heads out of their asses long enough to see and understand this, we would all be much better off. And what else? Boeing is a UNION contractor.

Yeah, those machinists make bank

 

[Cecilie1200]

Air Force awards Boeing $3.5 billion contract - Feb. 24, 2011

Meanwhile, in IN and WI, American employees are being stripped of bargaining rights, because our country and it's states cannot afford to pay them what they think they are worth.

One, what the Department of the Defense, a branch of the FEDERAL government, does with its budget has fuck-all to do with what a STATE can and cannot afford to do with ITS budget. Two, wah wah wah! How many of us get paid what WE think we're worth, and how many of us actually feel justified in having a huge, screaming tantrum about it on national television? You get paid what your EMPLOYER thinks you're worth to him, and if you're lucky, it's not too much less than what YOU think you deserve and wish you could get.

It is unfortunate that people like you cannot or simply will not see the bigger picture. Federal/state/local....does not matter. We are ALL Americans and if our elected officials and the people who put them in power could get their heads out of their asses long enough to see and understand this, we would all be much better off. And what else? Boeing is a UNION contractor.

I can only assume that by "bigger picture", you mean "the simplistic world that I want to live in, irregardless of annoying things like facts and reality".

"We are ALL Americans" appears to mean "all the money goes into one big pile in the center of the country, and then we dole it out to those we want to have it on the basis of how important adolescent minds like me believe them to be."

I can't imagine how you think the fact that Boeing is a union contractor could POSSIBLY make your posts any less random, meaningless, and irrelevant. No, I will NOT explain to you what it was about this remark that was so fucking ignorant. Take your advice to our elected officials, pull your head out of your ass, and figure out for yourself how it was that you made a fool of yourself THIS time.

 

[Sheldon]

I like this part of the article best:

Originally needed to keep B-52 nuclear bombers in the air for long periods of time, the Stratotanker quickly found new missions in Vietnam, where it enabled small fighter bombers to strike targets anywhere in the country. It revolutionized the use of air power, and is continuing to play that role in Iraq and Afghanistan.

These refueling aircraft are not needed for defense. They are needed to refuel aircraft operating offensively in other countries. Where is the Tea Party outrage?

I've got this theory. If defense spending is on the table along with everything else, we'll know the GOP/TP is addressing our debt to the degree that justifies the level of campaign rhetoric.

 

[HUGGY]

It's not a done deal. AirBus can still challenge the bid. If it works out as is it will be a huge benefit for Seattle machinists. I am a machinist in Seattle. I make aircraft parts. I would never go to work for Boeing but the subcontractor work will be significant. Boeing will suck up many of the smaller shops machinists and the market for my skills will be very good. Boeing estimates 10,000 hires in Seattle. This will be very good for the Pacific Northwest.

 

[whitehall]

Another desperate post by the ignorant and hate-filled left that for some reason seems to choose Palin and Bachmann as their internet handle? Is it a love-hate relationship or an indication of something more sinister?

 

[Agit8r]

I'm still sad that i'm not making bank like Boeing machinist, and they are getting fat on my tax dollars

 

[xsited1]

NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- The Air Force announced Thursday it awarded a $3.5 billion initial contract to Boeing for the production of 18 next-generation aerial refueling tankers.

That is a down payment on a contract worth about $35 billion for 179 planes.

Air Force awards Boeing $3.5 billion contract - Feb. 24, 2011

Meanwhile, in IN and WI, American employees are being stripped of bargaining rights, because our country and it's states cannot afford to pay them what they think they are worth.

Maybe they'll just give the contract to a non-American company. That would show them!

 

[VaYank5150]

I like this part of the article best:

Originally needed to keep B-52 nuclear bombers in the air for long periods of time, the Stratotanker quickly found new missions in Vietnam, where it enabled small fighter bombers to strike targets anywhere in the country. It revolutionized the use of air power, and is continuing to play that role in Iraq and Afghanistan.

These refueling aircraft are not needed for defense. They are needed to refuel aircraft operating offensively in other countries. Where is the Tea Party outrage?

I've got this theory. If defense spending is on the table along with everything else, we'll know the GOP/TP is addressing our debt to the degree that justifies the level of campaign rhetoric.

I agree with you. So, how much of the $61B in spending cuts the GOP has proposed are in defense spending? Anyone? Anyone?

 

[VaYank5150]

NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- The Air Force announced Thursday it awarded a $3.5 billion initial contract to Boeing for the production of 18 next-generation aerial refueling tankers.

That is a down payment on a contract worth about $35 billion for 179 planes.

Air Force awards Boeing $3.5 billion contract - Feb. 24, 2011

Meanwhile, in IN and WI, American employees are being stripped of bargaining rights, because our country and it's states cannot afford to pay them what they think they are worth.

Maybe they'll just give the contract to a non-American company. That would show them!

Don't the US taxpayers deserve the biggest bang for their buck? If a non-American company can build these things cheaper, why shouldn't we award them the contract? We are broke, remember?

 

[VaYank5150]

It's not a done deal. AirBus can still challenge the bid. If it works out as is it will be a huge benefit for Seattle machinists. I am a machinist in Seattle. I make aircraft parts. I would never go to work for Boeing but the subcontractor work will be significant. Boeing will suck up many of the smaller shops machinists and the market for my skills will be very good. Boeing estimates 10,000 hires in Seattle. This will be very good for the Pacific Northwest.

Ensuring Federal tax money is spent to employ American workers sure sounds like socialism to me. Just ask any "conservative".

 

[California Girl]

It's not a done deal. AirBus can still challenge the bid. If it works out as is it will be a huge benefit for Seattle machinists. I am a machinist in Seattle. I make aircraft parts. I would never go to work for Boeing but the subcontractor work will be significant. Boeing will suck up many of the smaller shops machinists and the market for my skills will be very good. Boeing estimates 10,000 hires in Seattle. This will be very good for the Pacific Northwest.

Ensuring Federal tax money is spent to employ American workers sure sounds like socialism to me. Just ask any "conservative".

Since you struggle to grasp the reality of 'thinking', I would suggest you allow conservatives to do their own instead of assuming you know what they think. It just makes you look silly... again.

 

[VaYank5150]

It's not a done deal. AirBus can still challenge the bid. If it works out as is it will be a huge benefit for Seattle machinists. I am a machinist in Seattle. I make aircraft parts. I would never go to work for Boeing but the subcontractor work will be significant. Boeing will suck up many of the smaller shops machinists and the market for my skills will be very good. Boeing estimates 10,000 hires in Seattle. This will be very good for the Pacific Northwest.

Ensuring Federal tax money is spent to employ American workers sure sounds like socialism to me. Just ask any "conservative".

Since you struggle to grasp the reality of 'thinking', I would suggest you allow conservatives to do their own instead of assuming you know what they think. It just makes you look silly... again.

Thank you for the personal attack. Do you have anything of value to add to the topic?

 

[martybegan]

I like this part of the article best:

Originally needed to keep B-52 nuclear bombers in the air for long periods of time, the Stratotanker quickly found new missions in Vietnam, where it enabled small fighter bombers to strike targets anywhere in the country. It revolutionized the use of air power, and is continuing to play that role in Iraq and Afghanistan.

These refueling aircraft are not needed for defense. They are needed to refuel aircraft operating offensively in other countries. Where is the Tea Party outrage?

Mid air refueling aircraft are not just used for offensive action. They increase the range of not only fighter aircraft, but transport aircraft as well, the same aircraft used for humanitarian missons.

These also enable us to use less fully manned forward bases, as they create the ability to forward deploy stateside assets rapidlty, requiring only a well maintained airport as a destination.

This contract is not an expansion of our mid air refueling capability, but replaces aircraft that have been in use for over 30-40 years.

 

[Mini 14]

Maybe they'll just give the contract to a non-American company. That would show them!

Oh God, I hope they do!

EAD (Airbus) was the other contractor that lost the bid.

They were going to build a plant near Mobile, AL to build the plane, employing 13,000 in total.

No word yet if they are going to appeal the appeal (Boeing won it after appealing the initial award to EAD), but I suspect they are going to let it go.

 

[VaYank5150]

I like this part of the article best:

Originally needed to keep B-52 nuclear bombers in the air for long periods of time, the Stratotanker quickly found new missions in Vietnam, where it enabled small fighter bombers to strike targets anywhere in the country. It revolutionized the use of air power, and is continuing to play that role in Iraq and Afghanistan.

These refueling aircraft are not needed for defense. They are needed to refuel aircraft operating offensively in other countries. Where is the Tea Party outrage?

Mid air refueling aircraft are not just used for offensive action. They increase the range of not only fighter aircraft, but transport aircraft as well, the same aircraft used for humanitarian missons.

These also enable us to use less fully manned forward bases, as they create the ability to forward deploy stateside assets rapidlty, requiring only a well maintained airport as a destination.

This contract is not an expansion of our mid air refueling capability, but replaces aircraft that have been in use for over 30-40 years.

Ummmm....and why in God's name would we need refueling aricraft for "defense" of our country?

 

[martybegan]

I like this part of the article best:



These refueling aircraft are not needed for defense. They are needed to refuel aircraft operating offensively in other countries. Where is the Tea Party outrage?

Mid air refueling aircraft are not just used for offensive action. They increase the range of not only fighter aircraft, but transport aircraft as well, the same aircraft used for humanitarian missons.

These also enable us to use less fully manned forward bases, as they create the ability to forward deploy stateside assets rapidlty, requiring only a well maintained airport as a destination.

This contract is not an expansion of our mid air refueling capability, but replaces aircraft that have been in use for over 30-40 years.

Ummmm....and why in God's name would we need refueling aricraft for "defense" of our country?

Defense of our treaty partners for one thing (i.e. NATO) as well as our other comittments (Japan, South Korea etc.)

These aircraft actually allow us to do more with less, removing the need for extra aircraft, as we can base more in the US and just ship and support them in forward areas when they are needed.