After harassing co-workers, fired man sues

[WillowTree]

But the guy was just doing what his religion tells him he should do. Doesn't freedom of religion mean that the court has to make him exempt?

stupid man and a stupid gotcha thread, you fail try again asswipe.

 

[syrenn]

But the guy was just doing what his religion tells him he should do. Doesn't freedom of religion mean that the court has to make him exempt?

You have freedom of religion....on your own time. You are not paid by an employer to preach.

 

[Ernie S.]

it wouldnt be a first amendment issue since he was trying to distribute materials on private property. no matter what the subject matter, if he did not have permission to distribute said information on company property he could be subject to disciplinary action up and to termination depending on the employee code of conduct (which is typically in the employee handbook) which large corporations make you acknowledge and sign off when hired.

But the Jet Propulsion Laboratory is not private property. It is US government property.

its still considered private property. same way army bases are considered private property. it is not public property, as in the general public is not allowed within JPL at any time.

regardless of the semantics you want play, he was distributing information in a place that did not allow it.

I'm not supporting the man, only pointing out that since only governments are forbidden from restricting speech and religion, there is an interesting counterargument.

 

[Ernie S.]

Where's Urkel? He got owned and disappeared.

 

[Syphon]

But the Jet Propulsion Laboratory is not private property. It is US government property.

its still considered private property. same way army bases are considered private property. it is not public property, as in the general public is not allowed within JPL at any time.

regardless of the semantics you want play, he was distributing information in a place that did not allow it.

I'm not supporting the man, only pointing out that since only governments are forbidden from restricting speech and religion, there is an interesting counterargument.

agreed, it an interesting argument. i have a friend who works at JPL and ill have to ask him what the employee handbook says.

 

[Baruch Menachem]

As an employee you are to dig your 16 tons and then go home. You are not to disrupt the work place with issues that are tangential to your job.

Most employers are a lot more relaxed than that basic rule. Tuesday morning at most places in the fall is about the football game last night. As long as production happens, bosses don't care. If they wanted to, they could.

When your non work related stuff gets in the way of production, it is time for you to go.

 

[uscitizen]

Co-workers felt harassed to watch his DVDs

I'm curious how many people will read this, or just jump up and say something. Basically, a man uses his work time to discuss his religious beliefs. Co-workers become uncomfortable, he's told by his supervisors to refrain from such discussions. He continues anyway, and gets fired. Now he sues for wrongful termination.

What's so wrong with discussing religion? His job should be forced to either give him his job back, or pay out a few million or something. It's not like the job market is good and he can go find another job. People can't afford to be fired for their religious beliefs in times like this.

So, if the job market improves, then it's acceptable to fire people for their religious beliefs?

Good grief.

it has nothing to do with his beliefs. they never said his firing was based on his beliefs, that would be illegal. they said his firing had to do with the harassment of other employee. simply because of the subject matter was religion has no bearing. the subject matter could have been sexual or otherwise, but it still doesnt matter.

if your company has one, you should read your employee handbook cover to cover and see what the reasons are that your employer can terminate you.

Or if you are in a "right to work" state....

 

[Inthemiddle]

Where's Urkel? He got owned and disappeared.

I'm at work, using my break to preach religion.

 

[syrenn]

Where's Urkel? He got owned and disappeared.

I'm at work, using my break to preach religion.

Preach away, its not a violation of the TOS. You are also not following people around harassing them with it either.

Harassment is against the TOS.... so be careful.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Co-workers felt harassed to watch his DVDs

I'm curious how many people will read this, or just jump up and say something. Basically, a man uses his work time to discuss his religious beliefs. Co-workers become uncomfortable, he's told by his supervisors to refrain from such discussions. He continues anyway, and gets fired. Now he sues for wrongful termination.

What's so wrong with discussing religion? His job should be forced to either give him his job back, or pay out a few million or something. It's not like the job market is good and he can go find another job. People can't afford to be fired for their religious beliefs in times like this.

another frivolous lawsuit filed by religious lunatics gone mad with religion.

JPL spokeswoman Veronica McGregor said the lawsuit "is completely without merit, and we intend to vigorously fight the allegations raised by Mr. Coppedge."

The case has generated interest among advocates of intelligent design. The Alliance Defense Fund, a Christian civil rights group, and the Discovery Institute, a proponent of intelligent design, are supporting Coppedge's lawsuit.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

But the Jet Propulsion Laboratory is not private property. It is US government property.

its still considered private property. same way army bases are considered private property. it is not public property, as in the general public is not allowed within JPL at any time.

regardless of the semantics you want play, he was distributing information in a place that did not allow it.

I'm not supporting the man, only pointing out that since only governments are forbidden from restricting speech and religion, there is an interesting counterargument.

man you people are really dumb.

there is no argument where you imagine there is an interesting one

good nite and sleep tight and don't let the bed bugs bite

 

[Syphon]

its still considered private property. same way army bases are considered private property. it is not public property, as in the general public is not allowed within JPL at any time.

regardless of the semantics you want play, he was distributing information in a place that did not allow it.

I'm not supporting the man, only pointing out that since only governments are forbidden from restricting speech and religion, there is an interesting counterargument.

man you people are really dumb.

there is no argument where you imagine there is an interesting one

good nite and sleep tight and don't let the bed bugs bite

so youre saying there is no such thing as a dumb argument?