Phoenix
fideli certa merces
BTW... where did Madeline go?
Hadnt seen her here in a while. Hope all is OK with her
PM me if ya have any info.
Ummmm ... look under her name at the beginning of the thread, Infidel. She's gone.
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BTW... where did Madeline go?
Hadnt seen her here in a while. Hope all is OK with her
PM me if ya have any info.
BTW... where did Madeline go?
Hadnt seen her here in a while. Hope all is OK with her
PM me if ya have any info.
Ummmm ... look under her name at the beginning of the thread, Infidel. She's gone.
Aww damn... wonder what happened
She was good for a laugh or two at times.
Whata bummer
Amen!Done it? Had it done to you? Considering it?
What is your stance on adultery?
Here's mine (gained after a lifetime of sorrows of all sorts): There is no excuse. If you are unhappy, fix it or move on. Lying and cheating are so destructive to everyone involved they can never be justified.
It sounds like you're not taking into account all the spouses that know about it but don't approve or have any kind of "open" relationship. Sometimes cheated spouses know they're being cheated on. I don't think it has to be a secret to be adultery.Well, not if you say, "Honey, I'm going to go screw the waitress at the bar on the corner" and you end up having a blazing fight over it.
Generally, though, if you're telling your spouse stuff like that, it's because your marriage has accommodations for that sort of thing.
What I find most puzzling, and a little hypocritical about adultry is this. Gay marriage is supposidly the destruction of the sanctity of marriage, and preachers and clergy of almost all religions condem it. They speak quite openly and viciously against it, they take an active role in the persecution of gays i.e. rights restrictions.
Now, it has been quite some time since I set foot in a church, but attended a catholic school for twelve years, and was even an altarboy at one point. I spent several years attending other religious institutions trying to find my religious center, until I decided on my own path to God. In my search not once have I ever heard clergy of any faith talk about the sin of adultry. Never have I heard them say it was a sin, and never did they condem anyone for that sin.
I believe this subject is avoided because most of the people sitting in the pews on Sunday have been divorced, or are commiting adultry presently. To condem this behavior openly would drive away the parishoners, and when the parishoners leave so does their money. I'm not saying that this is the case, but it sure does leave one open to believe that is the case. If it walks like a duck, smells like a duck, looks like a duck it must be a duck.
It sounds like you're not taking into account all the spouses that know about it but don't approve or have any kind of "open" relationship. Sometimes cheated spouses know they're being cheated on. I don't think it has to be a secret to be adultery.Well, not if you say, "Honey, I'm going to go screw the waitress at the bar on the corner" and you end up having a blazing fight over it.
Generally, though, if you're telling your spouse stuff like that, it's because your marriage has accommodations for that sort of thing.
What I find most puzzling, and a little hypocritical about adultry is this. Gay marriage is supposidly the destruction of the sanctity of marriage, and preachers and clergy of almost all religions condem it. They speak quite openly and viciously against it, they take an active role in the persecution of gays i.e. rights restrictions.
Now, it has been quite some time since I set foot in a church, but attended a catholic school for twelve years, and was even an altarboy at one point. I spent several years attending other religious institutions trying to find my religious center, until I decided on my own path to God. In my search not once have I ever heard clergy of any faith talk about the sin of adultry. Never have I heard them say it was a sin, and never did they condem anyone for that sin.
I believe this subject is avoided because most of the people sitting in the pews on Sunday have been divorced, or are commiting adultry presently. To condem this behavior openly would drive away the parishoners, and when the parishoners leave so does their money. I'm not saying that this is the case, but it sure does leave one open to believe that is the case. If it walks like a duck, smells like a duck, looks like a duck it must be a duck.
Done it? Had it done to you? Considering it?
What is your stance on adultery?
Here's mine (gained after a lifetime of sorrows of all sorts): There is no excuse. If you are unhappy, fix it or move on. Lying and cheating are so destructive to everyone involved they can never be justified.
Are all questions negative?
What I find most puzzling, and a little hypocritical about adultry is this. Gay marriage is supposidly the destruction of the sanctity of marriage, and preachers and clergy of almost all religions condem it. They speak quite openly and viciously against it, they take an active role in the persecution of gays i.e. rights restrictions.
Now, it has been quite some time since I set foot in a church, but attended a catholic school for twelve years, and was even an altarboy at one point. I spent several years attending other religious institutions trying to find my religious center, until I decided on my own path to God. In my search not once have I ever heard clergy of any faith talk about the sin of adultry. Never have I heard them say it was a sin, and never did they condem anyone for that sin.
I believe this subject is avoided because most of the people sitting in the pews on Sunday have been divorced, or are commiting adultry presently. To condem this behavior openly would drive away the parishoners, and when the parishoners leave so does their money. I'm not saying that this is the case, but it sure does leave one open to believe that is the case. If it walks like a duck, smells like a duck, looks like a duck it must be a duck.
I have to say that your experience of churches must be very selective, or you're just not remembering well, because LOTS of churches talk about adultery and the need to honor marriage vows, whether they accept divorce or not (and divorce is not viewed in the same category as adultery by a number of churches). In my lifetime, I've lost track of the number of times I've heard pastors talk about and condemn not just adultery, but all the other many ways that people can violate their marriage vows and/or damage their marriages.
Absolutely. But I contend that not everything everybody interprets as sarcastic or negative truly is. Tone of voice isn't easy to read online.Questions aren't negative at all. Sometimes the attitude in which they're asked is, though.
Done it? Had it done to you? Considering it?
What is your stance on adultery?
Here's mine (gained after a lifetime of sorrows of all sorts): There is no excuse. If you are unhappy, fix it or move on. Lying and cheating are so destructive to everyone involved they can never be justified.
What I find most puzzling, and a little hypocritical about adultry is this. Gay marriage is supposidly the destruction of the sanctity of marriage, and preachers and clergy of almost all religions condem it. They speak quite openly and viciously against it, they take an active role in the persecution of gays i.e. rights restrictions.
Now, it has been quite some time since I set foot in a church, but attended a catholic school for twelve years, and was even an altarboy at one point. I spent several years attending other religious institutions trying to find my religious center, until I decided on my own path to God. In my search not once have I ever heard clergy of any faith talk about the sin of adultry. Never have I heard them say it was a sin, and never did they condem anyone for that sin.
I believe this subject is avoided because most of the people sitting in the pews on Sunday have been divorced, or are commiting adultry presently. To condem this behavior openly would drive away the parishoners, and when the parishoners leave so does their money. I'm not saying that this is the case, but it sure does leave one open to believe that is the case. If it walks like a duck, smells like a duck, looks like a duck it must be a duck.
I have to say that your experience of churches must be very selective, or you're just not remembering well, because LOTS of churches talk about adultery and the need to honor marriage vows, whether they accept divorce or not (and divorce is not viewed in the same category as adultery by a number of churches). In my lifetime, I've lost track of the number of times I've heard pastors talk about and condemn not just adultery, but all the other many ways that people can violate their marriage vows and/or damage their marriages.
Same here... I have to say that I've also never heard one sermon even mentioning gays, let alone 'condemning' them. If there are churches out there who do that, they are few and far between from my experiences.
Absolutely. But I contend that not everything everybody interprets as sarcastic or negative truly is. Tone of voice isn't easy to read online.Questions aren't negative at all. Sometimes the attitude in which they're asked is, though.