ACLU hard at work.

[KittenKoder]

Sex defines gay rights.

By that logic they also cannot talk about family, love, straight activists, dating of any sort, well, relationships of any sort, boys, girls, adults, etc. ... the list is endless.

I already said I don't think it's appropriate to talk about intercourse, gay or straight, with gradeschoolers.

You can't discuss who Harvey Milk was and just wink about what it was about his sexuality that defined his movement.

Gay rights is no more about sex than family, marriage, parents, the difference between boys and girls, etc.. So basically the only thing left to teach would be ... um ... nothing. Since by your own logic, everything can be connected to sex thanks to straight people.

 

[dilloduck]

By that logic they also cannot talk about family, love, straight activists, dating of any sort, well, relationships of any sort, boys, girls, adults, etc. ... the list is endless.

I already said I don't think it's appropriate to talk about intercourse, gay or straight, with gradeschoolers.

You can't discuss who Harvey Milk was and just wink about what it was about his sexuality that defined his movement.

Gay rights is no more about sex than family, marriage, parents, the difference between boys and girls, etc.. So basically the only thing left to teach would be ... um ... nothing. Since by your own logic, everything can be connected to sex thanks to straight people.

those damn straight people !

 

[KittenKoder]

I already said I don't think it's appropriate to talk about intercourse, gay or straight, with gradeschoolers.

You can't discuss who Harvey Milk was and just wink about what it was about his sexuality that defined his movement.

Gay rights is no more about sex than family, marriage, parents, the difference between boys and girls, etc.. So basically the only thing left to teach would be ... um ... nothing. Since by your own logic, everything can be connected to sex thanks to straight people.

those damn straight people !

I know! Straight concepts should be illegal!

 

[dilloduck]

Gay rights is no more about sex than family, marriage, parents, the difference between boys and girls, etc.. So basically the only thing left to teach would be ... um ... nothing. Since by your own logic, everything can be connected to sex thanks to straight people.

those damn straight people !

I know! Straight concepts should be illegal!

not everyone orgasms to big hard drives KK. Sorry you're an oddball.

 

[KittenKoder]

those damn straight people !

I know! Straight concepts should be illegal!

not everyone orgasms to big hard drives KK. Sorry you're an oddball.

I want the 150 terrabyte drive! Oh yeah, lot's of long nights with that one!

 

[dilloduck]

I know! Straight concepts should be illegal!

not everyone orgasms to big hard drives KK. Sorry you're an oddball.

I want the 150 terrabyte drive! Oh yeah, lot's of long nights with that one!

and you waste your time on hetero porn when you could be ogling raw tech

 

[DiveCon]

I love this argument, because it just shows why our country is getting dumbed down. Teachers have an obligation to teach history, whether they agree with it or not, facts are facts, period.

Facts are age appropriate.

Should grade school children be introduced to sex by way of saying it does not matter whether a penis is put into a woman's vagina or another man's rectum?

Would it occur to a grade school child to do either?

Really? So telling other students about a gay rights activist is somehow telling them about sex? Pray tell, how do you arrive at that conclusion?

i dont understand this either
couldnt she have given her report on this activist and not bring up sex at all?

seems to me that a report on a person wouldnt neesesarrily have anything to do with sex


but, that a 6th grader knows about this particular activist sounds like it was something someone set her up to do

 

[Fraulein Hilda]

How do you give a report on Harvey Milk without talking about the sexual proclivities that defined the impetus for his struggle?

 

[KittenKoder]

Facts are age appropriate.

Should grade school children be introduced to sex by way of saying it does not matter whether a penis is put into a woman's vagina or another man's rectum?

Would it occur to a grade school child to do either?

Really? So telling other students about a gay rights activist is somehow telling them about sex? Pray tell, how do you arrive at that conclusion?

i dont understand this either
couldnt she have given her report on this activist and not bring up sex at all?

seems to me that a report on a person wouldnt neesesarrily have anything to do with sex


but, that a 6th grader knows about this particular activist sounds like it was something someone set her up to do

Here's the thing, gay is a lifestyle, homosexual is the sexual activity. They are trying to say that because the kid mentioned that the person is a "gay rights activist" that they were somehow advertising or discussing sexual activity, but really it's a label and nothing more. Labels are a bitch to, everyone always sees what they want to see when they use them.

 

[Agnapostate]

I bet if little Suzy did a report on that guy in Iowa that is trying to get to the Supreme Court about the fact they are sending him to jail for sleeping with his ADULT CONSENTING STEP DAUGHTER none of us would have heard about it. The ACLU wouldn't have even listened to the problem much less spend time and effort to threaten an ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. Nor would it be NATIONAL NEWS.

I doubt that, considering their initiative in defending the polygamists of the fundamentalist Mormon compound. The reality is that the ACLU has also been instrumental in defending various forms of religious expression, but you simply prefer to cling to your preconceived ideological dogma rather than engage in a rational analysis of factual evidence.

Hate to break up your little love fest but 6th graders do not have 1st amendment rights the same as everyone else. But hey nice try.

I don't think anyone here has claimed otherwise. However, it certainly is a reality that 6th graders and all other public school students certainly do have a degree of 1st Amendment rights, as guaranteed by Tinker v. Des Moines.

This insanity makes a good argument for home schooling! as the libtards are so fond of saying.. " teaching 6th graders about homosexuality isn't a priority" obamalama is fighting two wars and has a bunch of terrorists he needs to figure out what to do with now that he's opened his big mouth and made insane promised to the democwat socialist libtards on the left.

It doesn't make an especially good argument for homeschooling, considering that youth would be subject to an even narrower spectrum of ideological topics in their homes, thus creating an outlet for propaganda. For instance, your failure to realized that liberal democratic capitalism actually acts as a means of inhibiting socialism is an example of this. Try again, donkeyface!

 

[KittenKoder]

Oh, and Dive, that is probably the most profound part that I would agree with "but, that a 6th grader knows about this particular activist sounds like it was something someone set her up to do" ... honestly they should have looked into that angle more.

 

[DiveCon]

How do you give a report on Harvey Milk without talking about the sexual proclivities that defined the impetus for his struggle?

the same way you would give a report on any other person without discussing what they did in the privacy of their own homes

 

[DiveCon]

Oh, and Dive, that is probably the most profound part that I would agree with "but, that a 6th grader knows about this particular activist sounds like it was something someone set her up to do" ... honestly they should have looked into that angle more.

that too
sounds like SOMEONE set this up for a fight

and i cant stand people that use kids to fight a political battle

 

[KittenKoder]

Oh, and Dive, that is probably the most profound part that I would agree with "but, that a 6th grader knows about this particular activist sounds like it was something someone set her up to do" ... honestly they should have looked into that angle more.

that too
sounds like SOMEONE set this up for a fight

and i cant stand people that use kids to fight a political battle

Gotta agree with you on that. If they did use the kid like that, then I would want them found out because that isn't right.

 

[Fraulein Hilda]

Oh, and Dive, that is probably the most profound part that I would agree with "but, that a 6th grader knows about this particular activist sounds like it was something someone set her up to do" ... honestly they should have looked into that angle more.

that too
sounds like SOMEONE set this up for a fight

and i cant stand people that use kids to fight a political battle

Gotta agree with you on that. If they did use the kid like that, then I would want them found out because that isn't right.

Welcome to the gay cabal, baby.

 

[Agnapostate]

the same way you would give a report on any other person without discussing what they did in the privacy of their own homes

She might have somewhat of a point in that homosexual rights activists are necessarily defined by their sexual orientation ("heterosexual rights" activists are none too common), but since I won't accept the premise that children and youth should be shielded from sexual topics without evidence that they're harmed, her argument is dead in the water nonetheless.

 

[Fraulein Hilda]

This insanity makes a good argument for home schooling! as the libtards are so fond of saying.. " teaching 6th graders about homosexuality isn't a priority" obamalama is fighting two wars and has a bunch of terrorists he needs to figure out what to do with now that he's opened his big mouth and made insane promised to the democwat socialist libtards on the left.

Home schooled kids kick other kids asses, by and large, academically and otherwise. I tried it and it did not work for me, but if it works for you, you go, girl.

If you don't belive in homosexuality and your kids are in a public school, there is no "opt out."

 

[KittenKoder]

that too
sounds like SOMEONE set this up for a fight

and i cant stand people that use kids to fight a political battle

Gotta agree with you on that. If they did use the kid like that, then I would want them found out because that isn't right.

Welcome to the gay cabal, baby.

No, see, that's why you keep losing, that wasn't your point at all, you were trying to make the connection that talking about a person who fights for equal rights is somehow talking about sex, which you failed at. Dive just thinks about things more so often I can agree with his view, yours, you are just flat out wrong and now clinging to an intelligent person just because their angle somehow appears to support your already smashed argument.

 

[Fraulein Hilda]

the same way you would give a report on any other person without discussing what they did in the privacy of their own homes

She might have somewhat of a point in that homosexual rights activists are necessarily defined by their sexual orientation ("heterosexual rights" activists are none too common), but since I won't accept the premise that children and youth should be shielded from sexual topics without evidence that they're harmed, her argument is dead in the water nonetheless.

It's called robbing them of their childhood, for no other justification than to assuage the self-esteem of homosexuals.

 

[Agnapostate]

Welcome to the gay cabal, baby.

Is this element as significant as you seem to think it? I've not yet encountered parents who haven't attempted to impress their respective political, social, religious, or otherwise ideological values and beliefs on their children in some way.