About Praying

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    I remember my early years in the church. We were there three times a week and on Wednesday evenings the prayer lists were a foot and a half long. Every family had a member, a friend or knew someone who was dying from heart disease or cancer. Usually the first heart attack took a person out but those who survived it lasted another year or two as an invalid, weak and depressed.

    Cancer patients had one choice...surgery. After the procedure the tumor usually
    metastici ed and the cancer spread. That's all there was. Many closed casket services were held because the deceased was nothing more than a skin covered skeleton. One big foreman I had on the job lost down from 210 pounds to less than 100 pounds.

    People prayed till their knees were bloody and the objects of their prayers suffered and died anyway. There's no telling how many hundreds of billions of prayers were actually documented during the 40's and 50's.

    Now with sophisticated electronic diagnostic systems, diet control, stents, bypasses, pacemakers, stem cells, radiation, chemo etc. the same kind of patients live into their 80's and often their 90's. Either ol' Gawd wasn't listening or he does not give a phiddler's phuck.
     
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    Still doesn't have a damn thing about answered prayers. My post proves that if there is a god out there he really doesn't give a phuck.

    When I was born in 1934 the average life expectency was 61 years. Now...a child being born can expect to live on average into their late 70's. God doesn't have anything to do with it. If he did he wouldn't tell George W. Bush to unilaterally invade a third world country and not only get 4400 of our young people killed and 32,000 seriously wounded but also to wipe and over 150,000 innocent Iraqis.....that's bullschit and anybody who believes god told him to do it is rather naive...'course they're Republicans, what can I say
     
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    Which of course ignores the concept that God inspired the new procedures or that the answer to the prayers were the new medical procedures.
     
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    Cammmmmmmpell....we know you're a bitter old man...but what is it to you if people pray or not? Are they harming you in the process? Does it interfere in your life somehow?

    You seem to have a lot of threads about what people choose to believe in, like you're frightened by those with faith.

    Last I checked this was a free country, with everyone allowed to worship whatever they want, however they want.


    Now we will pray for you.
     
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    I don't have to answer on behalf of God. He will answer on his own behalf soon enough. I can testify personally that he answers prayer, that he heals, and that he answers prayer. That's not what this is about though. This is about your own belief that there is no God, you're view that everyone who believes in God is a complete idiot and that you have this elitist knowledge that makes you better then those evangelical bible belt Jesus freaks. If you really wanted to know the truth about prayer when it comes to the various aspects that come with a relationship with him, you would ask.

    It's a fair question, why do people remain sick even when they pray? A question I'm willing to answer. I'm not willing to put myself in a situation where I'm defending a being infinitely greater then me that in due time can and will defend himself. Nor am I going to engage in some sort of angry discourse with someone who doesn't want to know the answer anyway, they just want yell and scream and throw a fit and a spoiled tantrum because you want to be viewed as "smarter" then everyone else on a messageboard.

    "Do not give that which is holy (the sacred thing) to the dogs, and do not throw your pearls before hogs, lest they trample upon them with their feet and turn and tear you in pieces." Matthew 7:6

    If you REALLY want to know how prayer works BIBLICALLY in the context of having a proper relationship with God, I'll give you a verse and continue to explain.

    "And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us: And if we know that he hear us, whatsoever we ask, we know that we have the petitions that we desired of him." (1 John 5:14-15)
     
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    ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!! Delayed response and he told you what he was doing. You people are in dire need of some psychiatric attention. Anything whatsoever in the way of facts is completely blocked from your minds.


     
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    The essence of your thread is why God allows bad things to happen, despite prayers and living a good life. While I know no more than the next person, I think possibly he expects us to fix our own problems. We have the intelligence and ingenuity, we just wasting it on wars, greed, selfishness, whatever. Don't know about God, but I sometimes wonder why we're screwing around on stupid inconsequential stuff instead of what's really important - improving the human condition for everybody.
     
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    You think....why would he possibly instruct George W. Bush to invade a soverien nation 10,000 miles away which had done us no harm and cause over 4000 young Amricans and over 150,000 innocent Iraqis to be killed. Bush lied like a goddamed dog and started that bullschit just to avenge the assassination attempt by Saddam Hussein on his Father. Texas justice doesn't come cheap.
     
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    Calm down, Gramps...just rest easy knowing that if you have a heart attack or develop cancer, nobody will bloody their knees over you.:thup:
     

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