Aborting Down Syndrome Babies!

[Picaro]

And the same bunch that is proudly dehumanizing and denying rights and protections for children in the womb are the same ones claiming idiotic shit like "meat is murder"


Your point?

All you fetus wavers are the ones wanting to make women little more than brood mares. You don't blink an eye at forcing a woman to carry to term babies with horrific defects even if they soon die after birth or force the family to bankrupt themselves caring for it for the rest of its life. Of course, once the kid is born, it's on it's own. Rightwingers stop caring about them then.

The Constitution says all persons are entitled to the EQUAL protections of our laws. It does not say all "citizens" which is limited to "persons born" here.

It is you and your ilk who are the ones discriminating and picking and choosing whose rights to defend. Not us. We already have laws against the violation of a child after it is born and we all support those laws. Well, maybe you don't. Given your stance on the child's rights just prior to their birth... I wouldn't be surprised.

Sure. The unborn are not persons yet. Once they are born, they are persons subject to the protections of the laws. Most abortions aren't allowed after 3 months except for a few exceptions, so there is only a small window where they aren't protected. Moreover, this is in regards to birth defects. Do you have some sort of interest in forcing prospective parents to bring babies with horrible birth defects into the world? Why?

Killing babies because they have birth defects is the same thing the Nazis did.

So is taking native kids from their parents and packing them off to boarding schools for homosexual rape.

Ah hate speech against homosexuals now. Homosexuals claim the kids like being raped, and all the 'progressives' agree.

 

[Mudda]

an embryo is not viable out of the womb

Yes, but it is still human life.

One would think our 'reverence' for human life would find it's way into our need for endless wars and global occupation, empire expansion, our healthcare debate, our for profit prison system, and our economic cannibalization of society for the benefit of the entitled Wall Street bankster/"job creator" class.

And since it has no impact in all these other areas/discussions, you'll have to forgive me for not buying into any american 'reverence' for human life. It is about something else.

Your argument here would render male masturbation an act of mass destruction and the genocide of millions and millions of lives per ejaculation.[/QUQUOTED
Ejaculation is perfectly acceptable, im no Catholic,lol. All im trying to say is why dosent the life of a person who is diagnosed with down syndrome have the same value as someone who is seen as perfectly healthy?

Ejaculation is perfectly acceptable, im no Catholic,lol. All im trying to say is why dosent the life of a person who is diagnosed with down syndrome have the same value as someone who is seen as perfectly healthy?

Not my decision is it, nor yours I might add.

Is the life of a person with down syndrome equally valuable as a perfectly healthy person? Yes or no?

No.

 

[Mudda]

We're talking about adults with Downs, they can't survive in nature.

How many adults could survive in nature? Actually very few could; most would be dead within weeks, some would last a few months, and far fewer would last two years. that's why humans form tribes, cultures, religions, societies, and governments. It's the only way they survive. All we're talking about is matters of degrees of sufficiency.

So you don't disagree with me. Good for you.

What? Apparently you were indeed aborted, just a partial birth abortion that only aborted your frontal lobes.

Again you had a chance to disagree with me and you didn't. We applaud you.

 

[Liberty777]

Ejaculation is perfectly acceptable, im no Catholic,lol. All im trying to say is why dosent the life of a person who is diagnosed with down syndrome have the same value as someone who is seen as perfectly healthy?

Not my decision is it, nor yours I might add.

Is the life of a person with down syndrome equally valuable as a perfectly healthy person? Yes or no?

Like I said pard, the discussion here revolved around abortion, not my call unless it's my kid in my woman's womb. And if it is, rest assured you don't get jack to say about it.

Man up homie, its yes or no

You got my answer, you just can't accept it, not my problem.

Getting rid of a human life just because it has down syndrome could be a problem for us all.

 

[Chuz Life]

Ejaculation is perfectly acceptable, im no Catholic,lol. All im trying to say is why dosent the life of a person who is diagnosed with down syndrome have the same value as someone who is seen as perfectly healthy?

Not my decision is it, nor yours I might add.

Is the life of a person with down syndrome equally valuable as a perfectly healthy person? Yes or no?

Like I said pard, the discussion here revolved around abortion, not my call unless it's my kid in my woman's womb. And if it is, rest assured you don't get jack to say about it.

You can't give an honest answer to the question. Can you.

You can't accept my answer hon.

Your pathetic attempt to divert is not an answer to the question.

 

[Picaro]

We're talking about adults with Downs, they can't survive in nature.

How many adults could survive in nature? Actually very few could; most would be dead within weeks, some would last a few months, and far fewer would last two years. that's why humans form tribes, cultures, religions, societies, and governments. It's the only way they survive. All we're talking about is matters of degrees of sufficiency.

So you don't disagree with me. Good for you.

What? Apparently you were indeed aborted, just a partial birth abortion that only aborted your frontal lobes.

Again you had a chance to disagree with me and you didn't. We applaud you.

Again you make a pathetic 'Im Rubber Yur Glue!' post.

 

[debonora]

Pro Choice

 

[Picaro]

Pro Choice

Choice for who?

 

[Chuz Life]

One would think our 'reverence' for human life would find it's way into our need for endless wars and global occupation, empire expansion, our healthcare debate, our for profit prison system, and our economic cannibalization of society for the benefit of the entitled Wall Street bankster/"job creator" class.

And since it has no impact in all these other areas/discussions, you'll have to forgive me for not buying into any american 'reverence' for human life. It is about something else.

Your argument here would render male masturbation an act of mass destruction and the genocide of millions and millions of lives per ejaculation.

It's all about control, not some love and respect for life. As you point out, most of the same people doing all the hand wringing about all the poor lost fetuses are the very same ones clamoring for wars, the death penalty, more guns everywhere, no health care unless you are wealthy enough to afford it, etc, etc, etc.

And the same bunch that is proudly dehumanizing and denying rights and protections for children in the womb are the same ones claiming idiotic shit like "meat is murder"


Your point?

Are they? Sounds like quite a sweeping assumption, but I'm sure you've "researched" this.

So yeah, point? Got one?

Did you miss the fact that my "sweeping assumption " was in response to another's?

That said, show me one person who believes that meat is MURDER who is not also pro on legalized abortion. You may be able to find one but even they will tell you they are not in the majority.

Gotta let you in on somenthing pard, I really don't give a fuck whether you can find one or not.

Let me clue YOU in on something, TARD.

when you announce that you don't give a fuck about something... the amount of fucks given to your input by the person you are talking to (in this case, by me) drops to zero.

 

[Mudda]

We're talking about adults with Downs, they can't survive in nature.

How many adults could survive in nature? Actually very few could; most would be dead within weeks, some would last a few months, and far fewer would last two years. that's why humans form tribes, cultures, religions, societies, and governments. It's the only way they survive. All we're talking about is matters of degrees of sufficiency.

So you don't disagree with me. Good for you.

What? Apparently you were indeed aborted, just a partial birth abortion that only aborted your frontal lobes.

Again you had a chance to disagree with me and you didn't. We applaud you.

Again you make a pathetic 'Im Rubber Yur Glue!' post.

It's official, you agree with me.

 

[GHook93]

Not an opinion. It's the law.

You say tomato...Look BooBoo you abortion advocates disgust me, to my very core and I have zero use for any of you

No. It's either the law or it's not the law. Which is it?

You have zero use for upwards of 80% of your fellow Americans.

Because something is law doesn't make it moral....slavery used to be lawful

I'm weary of your worn out talking points I've heard like a gazziliion times

Yes, yes and your "killing babies" routine is pretty worn out as well.

Fetus Fetish

To be consistent, anti-abortionists would require letting the pregnant woman die if she was having complications. That would only be involuntary manslaughter, whereas aborting the fetus would be first-degree murder. Also, miscarriages would have to be registered as deaths and the fetuses would have to be buried.

It is also illogical to claim that the pregnant woman could always have other babies. So could the fetus, if left to be born and grow up. What's even more illogical is that the pregnant woman has already proven that she shouldn't get pregnant again.

When you state pro-lifers don't make an exception when the mother's life is in danger is a lie. Far extremist say this, but the vast majority make an exception when the mother's life is in danger and for victims of rape/incest.


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[Picaro]

How many adults could survive in nature? Actually very few could; most would be dead within weeks, some would last a few months, and far fewer would last two years. that's why humans form tribes, cultures, religions, societies, and governments. It's the only way they survive. All we're talking about is matters of degrees of sufficiency.

So you don't disagree with me. Good for you.

What? Apparently you were indeed aborted, just a partial birth abortion that only aborted your frontal lobes.

Again you had a chance to disagree with me and you didn't. We applaud you.

Again you make a pathetic 'Im Rubber Yur Glue!' post.

It's official, you agree with me.

Yes, I agree you know you're pathetic, and you hate yourself for it.

 

[Mudda]

So you don't disagree with me. Good for you.

What? Apparently you were indeed aborted, just a partial birth abortion that only aborted your frontal lobes.

Again you had a chance to disagree with me and you didn't. We applaud you.

Again you make a pathetic 'Im Rubber Yur Glue!' post.

It's official, you agree with me.

Yes, I agree you know you're pathetic, and you hate yourself for it.

I don't hate myself at all.

 

[Picaro]

We're talking about adults with Downs, they can't survive in nature.

How many adults could survive in nature? Actually very few could; most would be dead within weeks, some would last a few months, and far fewer would last two years. that's why humans form tribes, cultures, religions, societies, and governments. It's the only way they survive. All we're talking about is matters of degrees of sufficiency.

Hardly all that simple. Tribes, cultures, and societies I can see. Religions and governments are about authoritarianism, control, and wealth extraction.

You have no standing, being an amoral whinng Burb Brat.

Best of luck in your quest to control the personal decisions of others my friend.

What 'personal decision' is being controlled, exactly? Is the baby agreeing to be killed, according to you?

 

[Mudda]

What 'personal decision' is being controlled, exactly? Is the baby agreeing to be killed, according to you?

You need to go buy yourself a dictionary and look up the word baby.

Anyways, since when does a real Down's baby ever make a decision?

 

[Dragonlady]

What's wrong with not wanting a child with serious health and mental problems?

The big issues with DS children comes when the parents are too old to care for them. Eventually that child will be left to fend for themselves and will be middle aged, and alone for the first time in their life.

It's a very difficult choice to make.

 

[koshergrl]

What 'personal decision' is being controlled, exactly? Is the baby agreeing to be killed, according to you?

You need to go buy yourself a dictionary and look up the word baby.

Anyways, since when does a real Down's baby ever make a decision?

So what does the age matter to the humanity?

Is an "elder" less human because he or she is a human?
How about a "teen"?
Does the age specific title "toddler" mean that a 2 year old human has no right to live?

"Baby" is nothing more than an age description of a human. The same as "Child" "Teen" "Elder" "Adult" and "Fetus". All words use to describe the age of the same being...a HUMAN being.

 

[koshergrl]

What? Apparently you were indeed aborted, just a partial birth abortion that only aborted your frontal lobes.

Again you had a chance to disagree with me and you didn't. We applaud you.

Again you make a pathetic 'Im Rubber Yur Glue!' post.

It's official, you agree with me.

Yes, I agree you know you're pathetic, and you hate yourself for it.

I don't hate myself at all.

You should.

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

Thanks to Screening and Abortion, We Are Heading Toward a 'Down Syndrome-Free World'

On the way to work I heard a story on the radio about Iceland screening fetuses for Down Syndrome. 100% of the babies that test positive are aborted. Iceland is bragging they will be Down Syndrome free in one generation. Most of Europe is falling suit.

Is this a good thing? Pro-lifers are outraged and going to warpath over this.

I am a little torn. On one hand, I would elect for an abort if any of my kids had Down Syndrome. Parents should be aware their future child will be born with a major detect. Conservatives are hypothetical. The burden of a Down syndrome child is enormous - financially and mentally. Yet conservatives say after we force you to go through with the birth you are now on your own. I also do think the world would be a better place without Down Syndrome. So I lean towards testing, detection and abortion.

However, I see a slippery slope. Voluntary abortion could lead to forced abortion if DS fetuses. It might not stop there. What about children with the gay gene. Liberals have told us for a while that gays are born that way it's in their genes. What happens when a genetic test, detects the gay gene? Would liberals be OK with aborting a future fag, simply because he has the gay gene? Point is, consider the slippery slope.

Regardless thereof I remain in support of aborting DS fetuses.


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I believe it is the mother final choice and the government should not have any say into it.

 

[koshergrl]

Thanks to Screening and Abortion, We Are Heading Toward a 'Down Syndrome-Free World'

On the way to work I heard a story on the radio about Iceland screening fetuses for Down Syndrome. 100% of the babies that test positive are aborted. Iceland is bragging they will be Down Syndrome free in one generation. Most of Europe is falling suit.

Is this a good thing? Pro-lifers are outraged and going to warpath over this.

I am a little torn. On one hand, I would elect for an abort if any of my kids had Down Syndrome. Parents should be aware their future child will be born with a major detect. Conservatives are hypothetical. The burden of a Down syndrome child is enormous - financially and mentally. Yet conservatives say after we force you to go through with the birth you are now on your own. I also do think the world would be a better place without Down Syndrome. So I lean towards testing, detection and abortion.

However, I see a slippery slope. Voluntary abortion could lead to forced abortion if DS fetuses. It might not stop there. What about children with the gay gene. Liberals have told us for a while that gays are born that way it's in their genes. What happens when a genetic test, detects the gay gene? Would liberals be OK with aborting a future fag, simply because he has the gay gene? Point is, consider the slippery slope.

Regardless thereof I remain in support of aborting DS fetuses.


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I believe it is the mother final choice and the government should not have any say into it.

And they absolutely 100 percent should not fund it.

And anybody who performs abortion must have admitting privileges in a nearby hospital, and they must be inspected and keep records, and held accountable.