A Vote for Obama

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    It is quitely ironic that voting in U.S. elections even involves any considerations for Israel...given the crisis facing America it is nothing short of remarkable that the subject of Israel even rates discussion...and yet Jews mock the idea that they wield a wildly disproportionate influence in American politics. For the record: the smokescreen of left/right dualism has never been more irrelevant in U.S. elections...Obama was elected on a sweeping public mandate for "hope and change'---he failed to deliver either of these things...policy-formation emanates from the boardrooms of Goldman/Sachs....ExxonMobil...the health-insurance industry..etc. Values politics is a convenient smokescreen.

    BTW: It is instructive to recall Obama's so-called "anti-Israel" stance: upon his inauguration he dutifully affirmed "Israel's right to kill civilians" in Operation Cast-Bleed...400 Arab children were murdered by the cowardly IDF, and Obama's only concern was "Israel's right to self-defense'....please recall that this is the same man who lectured Americans about 'serious sould-searching" in the Trayvon Martin incident....moral hypocrisy par-excellence
     
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    Obama has achieved the impossible. The pro Israel side does not much like him because of his views on Israel. And the pro Palestinian terrorist side does not much like him because of his views on Israel. And yet, he will most likely be re-elected.
     
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    Bump, this piece is too good to let the usual detritus bury it. Sound reasons?

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    While OT item below reminds of the daily experience of USMB, and I love thought experiments.

    "At our last meeting we discuss Nietzsche's idea of eternal recurrence. "If Nietzsche is right, we'll be having this exact same discussion again and again and again," I say. Like me they are not convinced by the thesis, but fascinated by the thought experiment Nietzsche lays out in The Gay Science:

    'Imagine a divine messenger who reveals to you that this life, as you now live it and as you lived it in the past, you will have to live again and another infinite times; and there will be nothing new, but every pain and every pleasure, every thought and every sigh, and every unspeakable smallness and greatness of your life will come back, in the same sequence and order.'

    What would you do—"gnaw your teeth and curse him," or say "you are a god, I've never heard anything more divine!""?

    Spinoza in Shtreimels: An Underground Seminar > Jewish Review of Books
     
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    I totally agree...even for Jewish Americans you'd think they'd be thinking about the US first and foremost.

    It does make you wonder what policies either party might have on the ME issue if Jewish influence on IS politics was any lesser.

    When was the last time we heard American South Indians voting in the US based on the parties' policies on Kashmir?
     
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    Every Politician in America walks the tightrope of American Interests vs. Israel's...its amazing how a tiny minority control our Body Politic using people like Adelson's hundread million contribution for Israel that can make or break a Presidentcy...
     
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    Funny drivel.
     
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    A vote for O'Bama is one more brick in the wall of Sharia. Look at his history and prove me wrong.
     
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    Well, let's see...Egypt, Tunisia and Libya have moved away from Islamic extremism since he has been in power, and South Sudan has achieved independence as a Christian nation.

    So you're wrong.
     
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    Egypt, Tunisia and Libya have not moved away from islamicism----nor have any of the other muslim dominated countries Several of them got closer
     

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