A Tutorial For Trump Supporters On Climate Change

[Pop23]

I'm related to two scientists. Neither believe man made global climate change exists. They do believe that if you want to be published in any major scientific journal, you best bow to the new religion known as Climate Change.

OK, so that's your two scientists vs the thousands worldwide who disagree. Only the religious themselves would deny emperical, repeatable data that shows danger happening in our outer thermosphere. I've personally observed all around me the last two years, an increase in UV damage to trees and shrubs in my area. I've never seen this before in my 50 + years. What do your two scientist friends have to say about that?

Those thousands worldwide need to publish in professional journals to create a need for them. No publication, no income.

Put a gun to someone's head, you're likely to get the answer you desire.

 

[LaDexter]

The same parroted BS from the same science invalids who will not answer the first question of Earth climate change....


WHY does one Earth polar circle, the Antarctic, have 9 times the ice of the other, the Arctic?


If you cannot answer that, you do not know anything about Earth climate change.

 

[Staidhup]

I believe in climate change, its cyclical, normal, and should be expected in the constant evolving ecosystem that we call earth. I do not however believe in the feeble excuse designed toward redistribution of wealth to feather the fiscal bed of federal and state governments at the expense of the people it claims to represent. Face it the fines, trades, and taxes collected will never be used toward reversing what can not be changed. Its a scam. As I understand it if 100% of the man made carbon was to somehow be removed from the environment there would be no change. Only a fool believes man has total domain over nature. lets see those that subscribe to this nonsense become carbon natural and reduce their impact to zero. Will Gore sell his jet, and the host of other Hollywood and liberal soothsayers revert to carbon zero. Shit no they have too much to loose, but you on the other hand are expendable.

 

[LaDexter]

I believe in climate change

That's like saying you believe in PHYSICS.

Great.

Science is science.

The THEORY that CO2 is causing Earth to warm is a THEORY that has precisely NO EVIDENCE to support it - NONE.

Climate change is a SCIENCE.

Global Warming is a THEORY.

Please get a clue...

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Its bad.....very bad.......give us lots of money or die.....anything else

Give us your money
Will that stop global warming?
Of course not, but still least we'll have your money

 

[ptbw forever]

As the atmosphere, which acts like a shield and blanket at the same time, begins to disappear from destructive chemical reactions caused by things men are doing on the earth's surface, you would expect colder winters as CLIMATE CHANGE continues (not "Warming" per se)

In the Winter, with a thinner "blanket" you would expect colder-colds. In the Summer, guess what we find? Warmer warms as the shield function of our atmosphere thins.

I guess Trumpees think it's fun to look at climate change like an infant. That way the pesky little details of what's actually happening can be denied. That way, industry doesn't have to encounter the hassles and expense of complying with global climate practices aimed at saving our planet. The simple minded greedy apes just want their bunches of bananas. They don't want to hear about the inconvenient details of how their greed is destroying their home.

"But for awhile there we were having much cooler Summers than normal!"..

Yes, yes we were. Again, climate change deniers will have to stretch their taxed little brains further to understand the "silly" science behind all the mystery.

Water, which is also ice, which makes up the ice caps on both poles of our planet, is a funny element. It has what is known in chemistry as a "high specific heat". What that means is, that it takes a lot of energy to change it from a solid to a liquid, a liquid to a gas, or a gas to a plasma. Many other compounds or elements do not need as much heat as water to do this. As an element or molecule, like water, approaches a phase change from solid ice to liquid water, it takes on the most energy in the form of heat to complete the phase change.

So, to put that in layman's terms, while the Summer's were cooler, the ice caps' acceleration in melting were "stealing the heat" from the atmosphere....which we all felt on our skins as "a cooler Summer". "So climate change isn't really happening!!" Except that it is. Just not the neat little way that most minds would like to box it in.

Do three experiments at home that will help you understand the full scope of how our climate is changing for the worse as far as organic life is concerned.

1. The ice cube experiment. Put an ice chunk on the counter in a warm home. Hold your hand away from it. Then hold your hand near it. As your hand comes near to it, but doesn't actually touch it, you will feel cold. That is because as the ice melts, it is stealing heat from the immediate surroundings, including your hand as it approaches. Put a fan behind the ice chunk next. Place your hand in front of the stream of air blowing past the chunk. You'll notice cold too; and this will accelerate the melting of the ice. This is how the warmer wind functions blowing across the ice caps in Summer. The size of the ice caps are their ability to make the "false cool Summers" more noticeable. As they shrink in size, these cool Summers will not be felt as widely.

2. The atmosphere "blanket" test. Now that it's Winter, you can go outside and try this simple test. Take a thick warm blanket outside and cover yourself with it as you sit for awhile in a chair. Then, take it off and replace it with a sheet. Sit for the same amount of time. Which is colder? The thinner sheet mimics the thinning atmosphere and the colder Winters showing up as the earth's climate change.

3. The atmosphere "shield" test. In Summer, go out in the middle of July on a sunny day and sit under a solid type of shelter from the sun for awhile. Then, sit under an opaque or semi-clear piece of corrugated roofing. Or just directly in the sun without any shield. Which is hotter?

For extra credit, the Winter solstice (shortest day) is near. On that day, should the sun be shining, take an automobile headlamp reflector, remove the bulb exposing just the bulb clip. Using a pair of welding glasses for safety, place a piece of paper or a small dry piece of wood in the clip. Aim the reflector directly at the sun, even later in the day if you like. DO NOT look directly at the center of the reflector or anywhere near it, even with welding glasses. It will be at its weakest and lowest potential of energy for the entire year. Wait several seconds until the wood or paper catches fire. Douse quickly with water you have nearby.

This extra credit is the key to solving both our energy crises AND climate change. The less we damage our atmosphere with chemicals related to the petroleum industry and relying on it to give us energy, the more we can slow down the damage to everything; not the least of which, ourselves.

Except we are having much more mild winters and fewer and weaker storms....

Not to mention cooler summers.

 

[FA_Q2]

The same parroted BS from the same science invalids who will not answer the first question of Earth climate change....


WHY does one Earth polar circle, the Antarctic, have 9 times the ice of the other, the Arctic?


If you cannot answer that, you do not know anything about Earth climate change.

The question is entirely irrelevant though. The reason that they are not the same is because the areas in question are damn near opposites. The Artic is on the ocean where the Antarctic is over land. Other than the amount of sun and the fact that they are both cold all year around there is almost no similarity between the two areas.

Arctic vs. Antarctic | National Snow and Ice Data Center

 

[PredFan]

Wtf! We just finished bitch-slapping one idiot warmer now another one shows up. You guys are like a Retard Whack-a-Mole.

 

[LaDexter]

The Artic is on the ocean where the Antarctic is over land.

90% of Earth ice on land mass Antarctica.

7% of Earth ice on land mass Greenland.

97% of Earth's ice is on the two land masses closest to an Earth pole. And land moves....

If Earth had two polar oceans, it would have NO ICE....

If you think that is

entirely irrelevant

then you are a complete and total moron.

 

[FA_Q2]

The Artic is on the ocean where the Antarctic is over land.

90% of Earth ice on land mass Antarctica.

7% of Earth ice on land mass Greenland.

97% of Earth's ice is on the two land masses closest to an Earth pole. And land moves....

If Earth had two polar oceans, it would have NO ICE....

If you think that is

entirely irrelevant

then you are a complete and total moron.

Sorry to burst your insult bubble but the fact remains that the difference in ice from one pole to another is entirely irrelevant when discussing climate change and its drivers.

It is interesting that you entirely ignored your original point to go off on a tangent.

 

[owebo]

Its bad.....very bad.......give us lots of money or die.....anything else

Instead of tax money...can we sacrifice liberals at the alter of MMGW?

 

[Silhouette]

Wtf! We just finished bitch-slapping one idiot warmer now another one shows up. You guys are like a Retard Whack-a-Mole.

Do you have any science to refute the OP? You think Trump really is smarter than all the global scientists combined do you?

Speaking of idiots.

 

[PredFan]

Wtf! We just finished bitch-slapping one idiot warmer now another one shows up. You guys are like a Retard Whack-a-Mole.

Do you have any science to refute the OP? You think Trump really is smarter than all the global scientists combined do you?

Speaking of idiots.

Yeah lots, dumbass, I'm just tired of having to do it every 5 minutes. Can you read at all idiot? That was the point of my post.

 

[12icer]

As the atmosphere, which acts like a shield and blanket at the same time, begins to disappear from destructive chemical reactions caused by things men are doing on the earth's surface, you would expect colder winters as CLIMATE CHANGE continues (not "Warming" per se)

In the Winter, with a thinner "blanket" you would expect colder-colds. In the Summer, guess what we find? Warmer warms as the shield function of our atmosphere thins.

I guess Trumpees think it's fun to look at climate change like an infant. That way the pesky little details of what's actually happening can be denied. That way, industry doesn't have to encounter the hassles and expense of complying with global climate practices aimed at saving our planet. The simple minded greedy apes just want their bunches of bananas. They don't want to hear about the inconvenient details of how their greed is destroying their home.

"But for awhile there we were having much cooler Summers than normal!"..

Yes, yes we were. Again, climate change deniers will have to stretch their taxed little brains further to understand the "silly" science behind all the mystery.

Water, which is also ice, which makes up the ice caps on both poles of our planet, is a funny element. It has what is known in chemistry as a "high specific heat". What that means is, that it takes a lot of energy to change it from a solid to a liquid, a liquid to a gas, or a gas to a plasma. Many other compounds or elements do not need as much heat as water to do this. As an element or molecule, like water, approaches a phase change from solid ice to liquid water, it takes on the most energy in the form of heat to complete the phase change.

So, to put that in layman's terms, while the Summer's were cooler, the ice caps' acceleration in melting were "stealing the heat" from the atmosphere....which we all felt on our skins as "a cooler Summer". "So climate change isn't really happening!!" Except that it is. Just not the neat little way that most minds would like to box it in.

Do three experiments at home that will help you understand the full scope of how our climate is changing for the worse as far as organic life is concerned.

1. The ice cube experiment. Put an ice chunk on the counter in a warm home. Hold your hand away from it. Then hold your hand near it. As your hand comes near to it, but doesn't actually touch it, you will feel cold. That is because as the ice melts, it is stealing heat from the immediate surroundings, including your hand as it approaches. Put a fan behind the ice chunk next. Place your hand in front of the stream of air blowing past the chunk. You'll notice cold too; and this will accelerate the melting of the ice. This is how the warmer wind functions blowing across the ice caps in Summer. The size of the ice caps are their ability to make the "false cool Summers" more noticeable. As they shrink in size, these cool Summers will not be felt as widely.

2. The atmosphere "blanket" test. Now that it's Winter, you can go outside and try this simple test. Take a thick warm blanket outside and cover yourself with it as you sit for awhile in a chair. Then, take it off and replace it with a sheet. Sit for the same amount of time. Which is colder? The thinner sheet mimics the thinning atmosphere and the colder Winters showing up as the earth's climate change.

3. The atmosphere "shield" test. In Summer, go out in the middle of July on a sunny day and sit under a solid type of shelter from the sun for awhile. Then, sit under an opaque or semi-clear piece of corrugated roofing. Or just directly in the sun without any shield. Which is hotter?

For extra credit, the Winter solstice (shortest day) is near. On that day, should the sun be shining, take an automobile headlamp reflector, remove the bulb exposing just the bulb clip. Using a pair of welding glasses for safety, place a piece of paper or a small dry piece of wood in the clip. Aim the reflector directly at the sun, even later in the day if you like. DO NOT look directly at the center of the reflector or anywhere near it, even with welding glasses. It will be at its weakest and lowest potential of energy for the entire year. Wait several seconds until the wood or paper catches fire. Douse quickly with water you have nearby.

This extra credit is the key to solving both our energy crises AND climate change. The less we damage our atmosphere with chemicals related to the petroleum industry and relying on it to give us energy, the more we can slow down the damage to everything; not the least of which, ourselves.

Insignificant drivel that is so simplistically moronic as to be a kindergarten child's book. Real Climatologist do not agree with man made global warming theorist in any area except that the climate will change, and has for many years. Even more significantly before the beginning of the use of carbon based fuels as energy sources. Global warming has failed because the earth was much warmer in the century that the Magna Carta was signed than it is NOW. In fact the land areas of productive farming for most of the year was much larger than it is now a good portion of that land is now cold enough to have a very short productive period or is not producing at all. Some more history conveniently lost by liberal thieves and liars.

 

[12icer]

I like the Water problem liberals are so damn stupid they have no idea what causes a problem so they just wing it. Like the level of Lake ***** has dropped by ten feet in the last twenty years, the water is lost because of manmade global warming. The water level in the ocean is rising because of man made global warming. Which is it jacks? There are many reasons that fresh water levels have dropped in many areas. Any liberals like to try to ascertain the main one? I have a good solution that would be quick, easy and cause a great sigh of relief.

 

[Darkwind]

Donald Trump Will Be the Only World Leader to Deny Climate Change Is Real

As future president, Donald Trump has promised to dismantle President Barack Obama’s progress toward improving the environment. He has supported the Keystone XL pipeline and removing regulations on the gas and oil industries. He wants to reduce the influence of the Environmental Protection Agency, which he called a “disgrace,” and scrap the Clean Power Plan, which would compel power plants to reduce their carbon emission. He wants to “cancel” the Paris climate change deal. And he also once claimed that global warming is a hoax “created by and for the Chinese.” Donald Trump Will Be the Only World Leader to Deny Climate Change Is Real

Well Mr. Trump. You's got some learnin' to do. Average-student business-major Donald Trump; who doesn't take regular security briefings from experts even, cuz, you know, he's smarter than they are on everything...has suddenly deemed himself smarter than world scientific consensus. He might as well declare that green is now purple. What will be next in his world of make-believe?

Even the chemical industry disagrees with you; and dozens of other professional organizations, including NASA. Who is smarter Trumpees? Your guru Donald Trump? Or almost all world scientists?:

American Chemical Society
"Comprehensive scientific assessments of our current and potential future climates clearly indicate that climate change is real, largely attributable to emissions from human activities, and potentially a very serious problem." (2004)4 http://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/

Discuss

I always find it interesting to see who picks up on certain aspects of phony arguments like this.

In the quoted article, it states, "Donald Trump has promised to dismantle President Barack Obama’s progress toward improving the environment."

Yet, here you are making claims on climate change. I suppose you are going to make the statement that taking care of the environment by the EPA doesn't strictly mean just our land and water....so, while I'll just laugh if you try to equate environment as global warming, I'd still like to know what progress has been made. Last time I checked, you people still claim its getting warmer. Doesn't sound like progress to Me.

 

[westwall]

Donald Trump Will Be the Only World Leader to Deny Climate Change Is Real

As future president, Donald Trump has promised to dismantle President Barack Obama’s progress toward improving the environment. He has supported the Keystone XL pipeline and removing regulations on the gas and oil industries. He wants to reduce the influence of the Environmental Protection Agency, which he called a “disgrace,” and scrap the Clean Power Plan, which would compel power plants to reduce their carbon emission. He wants to “cancel” the Paris climate change deal. And he also once claimed that global warming is a hoax “created by and for the Chinese.” Donald Trump Will Be the Only World Leader to Deny Climate Change Is Real

Well Mr. Trump. You's got some learnin' to do. Average-student business-major Donald Trump; who doesn't take regular security briefings from experts even, cuz, you know, he's smarter than they are on everything...has suddenly deemed himself smarter than world scientific consensus. He might as well declare that green is now purple. What will be next in his world of make-believe?

Even the chemical industry disagrees with you; and dozens of other professional organizations, including NASA. Who is smarter Trumpees? Your guru Donald Trump? Or almost all world scientists?:

American Chemical Society
"Comprehensive scientific assessments of our current and potential future climates clearly indicate that climate change is real, largely attributable to emissions from human activities, and potentially a very serious problem." (2004)4 http://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/

Discuss

Interesting you posted this in Politics as opposed to Environment. In some ways it's appropriate as the AGW movement is purely political. It has not one shred of science actually backing it up. The only thing they have are falsified records, and computer models that even they are being forced to admit are less than worthless. I hate to tell you sil, but you're pissing up a rope.

 

[blastoff]

Let's see. Since the first Earth Day back in '70 we were going to be facing a new ice age in a few years, then worldwide famine followed by all sorts of disasters due to global warming that never happened so they pivoted to climate change issues and somewhere mixed in with all that the planet would completely run out of fossil fuels by 1985.

Yeah, I'm going to take you fuckin' idiots serious real soon now.

 

[owebo]

Let's see. Since the first Earth Day back in '70 we were going to be facing a new ice age in a few years, then worldwide famine followed by all sorts of disasters due to global warming that never happened so they pivoted to climate change issues and somewhere mixed in with all that the planet would completely run out of fossil fuels by 1985.

Yeah, I'm going to take you fuckin' idiots serious real soon now.

Liberals,and their settled sciences does have quite the track record for being completely wrong....perhaps if they got bigger consensuses their science would be more settled....

 

[Iceweasel]

I'm related to two scientists. Neither believe man made global climate change exists. They do believe that if you want to be published in any major scientific journal, you best bow to the new religion known as Climate Change.

OK, so that's your two scientists vs the thousands worldwide who disagree. Only the religious themselves would deny emperical, repeatable data that shows danger happening in our outer thermosphere. I've personally observed all around me the last two years, an increase in UV damage to trees and shrubs in my area. I've never seen this before in my 50 + years. What do your two scientist friends have to say about that?

Your IQ matches your age. Only a very small percentage of scientists worldwide are study Earth's climate so all the rest that support the view are simply parroting opinions. Consensus isn't science. If they had hard evidence they wouldn't need consensus. Thank God Trump isn't caught up in the religion of Warming so we can get onto more productive matters.