A teachable moment- Napolitano says bomb failing to explode shows “the system worked"

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    A teachable moment- Napolitano says bomb failing to explode shows “the system worked"


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    One can make that argument
    But-

    The guy got a visa and he was on a Watch List
    The guy's father told us he was a risk after he got the visa
    The guy was stopped by passengers before he could try a 2nd time to send his "crotch" and himself to Allah


    I say Thank God nobody was hurt in spite of the system not working
     
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    Damn right. By all rights that plane should have blown up, the bomb and bomber were there, and the bomb was almost twice the size of the shoe bomb. Napolitano and her system failed miserably.

    Why was this piece of shit allowed on a plane bound for the US? Even the Brits pulled his visa.
     
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    The very sad thing is that Napolitano believes what she said is correct.
     
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    I hear you!


    If the “system” had “worked,” U.S. consular officials would have never granted this guy a visa in the first place:
    — a rootless, young, single male —

    Tip: National Review

    Department visa regulation 214(b):
    That law requires an applicant to show strong roots in his home country — such as a house, a spouse, and/or employment — in order to prove that he would be likely to return home when his visa expired.

    Young, single, unemployed men are the people most often refused visas under 214(b) (when it is actually enforced) for the very reasons that al Qaeda recruits them so heavily: They are shiftless and have very little to stop them from packing up and moving to a new country. There’s also, sadly, very little to prevent them from committing terrorist attacks.
     
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    By that definition I should be denied a visa. That's retarded.
     
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    Not at all- When you issue a visa, you want the person to return back their to home country. Single people with no job or family ties, it makes sense to deny them visas

    Being from the US, it is less likely you would be denied a visa to another country because most USC want to go home
     
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    Except that a significant percentage of tourist dollars come from the demographic that you claim should always be denied a visa.
     
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    Get it through your heads. We are safer now.
     
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    It depends on the country
    We do have visa waiver agreements with about 35 countries where one only needs to get on a plane, fly to the US and have a Customs Officer clear you.

    Obviously, it is most of the Western countries and countries where economic conditions and living conditions indicate that one would most likely return


    The US is not "hurting" for tourist dollars from countries like Nigeria
     
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    Are you fuckin' kidding me, “the system worked"? What a stupid bitch, seriously.
    If not for this assholes incompetence and/or the bomb makers, that plane and all aboard, and potentially more have a very different outcome.
    I'd say the only one who deserves a pat on the back is the fella that subdued him and put the fire out, and the rest of the involved passengers and flight crew.

    I don't give a fuck who's fault it is, right now, but a full investigation of this major breach needs to be undertaken. This type of thing can not be allowed to happen.
     

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