A Tale of Two Surges

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  1. The Rabbi
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    After months of dithering Obama finally decided on an Afghan policy that would more or less mirror the surge in Iraq, one that he opposed and was successful anyway. In doing so he chose the plan laid out by his own general, McChrystal, that had the least chance for success.
    So how did he do compared to Bush's surge?
    Timeline of the Iraq War troop surge of 2007 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Bush's surge got going in Feb 2007 to enormous Congressional opposition from Democrats, who voted against it but funded it anyway. By Nov evidence of its success was begining to emerge and we know what's happened since.
    Obama's surge was announced in Feb 2010. Here it is November 2010, the same time period, and all evidence is the surge has failed miserably, with the Taliban stronger than ever and Karzai probably negotiatng with them for a power sharing arrangement ahead of the US withdrawal in July.
    Note that Obama also had full congressional endorsement, notwithstanding some anti war leftist kooks.
    Obama launches Afghanistan surge | The Australian
     
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    LOL, there is no solution there. You can kill them all and they'll just make more. The best you can hope for is another brutally repressive regime under the guise of a so called democracy, with billions of taxpayer money every year keeping it propped up.
     
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    Now there's a fascinating concept.
     
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    I've yet to see the militaries counter insurgency doctrine work in afghanistan. It's a pretty damn good doctrine too, I will admit, having read it back to back a few times now. Divide and conquer.
     
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    Yeah, it's called gutless demagoguery. The Dems opposed Bush's policies and voted against them many times but refrained from actually taking action, like ending funding, which would make them take responsibility.
     
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    There is no good solution. The British got their asses kicked in the 19thC. The Russians in the 1980s, and they were rigth across the border. No one has been successful bringing order to that hell hole.
     
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    sorry guys...wrong column, this is a new thread... sorry
     
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    As to Afghanistan? Throw this tidbit into the mix:

    Negotiator for Taliban said to be imposter


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    Anyone think it's time the adults came back and took over running this country?
     
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    oops wrong post !!!
     
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