A Suppressed atrocity: The day Israel attacked the U.S.A.

[Sunni Man]

again, not a fan of the Zionist Entity, but still not seeing what they gained. The Liberty knew who was attacking them.

Simple.

If the USS Liberty had quickly sunk with all hands lost.

The blame would have been placed on Egypt.

And the full force of U.S. weapons and air power would have enter the war on the side of Israel.

 

[JoeB131]

again, not a fan of the Zionist Entity, but still not seeing what they gained. The Liberty knew who was attacking them.

Simple.

If the USS Liberty had quickly sunk with all hands lost.

The blame would have been placed on Egypt.

And the full force of U.S. weapons and air power would have enter the war on the side of Israel.

That's a lot of variables. Ships are almost never lost with all hands. Even in cases where the ship blows up like HMS Hood, you still have survivors.

Also, if the US had entered on the side of Israel, the USSR would have entered on the side of the Arab countries. Not a good call for the US if most of her forces were deployed in Vietnam at the time.

Occam's Razor, baby. Usually the simplest explanation is true.

Simplest explanation- the ship wandered into a war zone and was fired on by mistake.

 

[Humanity]

Sadly, most American citizens have been brainwashed into thinking that Israel is our 51st state.

And the U.S. is constitutionally obligated to support and defend Israel at all costs. ......

Which of course is unconstitutional!

 

[Kondor3]

I find it quite astounding the number American's on this board that cheer and support Israel's attack on the USS Liberty and the deaths of our sailors as though it's somehow patriotic. ..

No American is cheering over Israel's attack upon the USS Liberty.

But what Americans here ARE doing, is resisting the insinuations and charges of Militant Muslim useful idiots, fifth-columnists, propagandists, and Hamas apologists, that it was anything other than a mistake or fog-of-war or heat-of-war incident, and that Israel intentionally tried to attack and piss off its largest and most significant friend.

Your Divide-and-Conquer tactics (trying so split America away from Israel) are transparent, glaringly and embarrassingly amateurish and obvious, and, of course, not working.

But your (side's) insistence upon dragging-out this old wreck of a debating basis, every few months, does make for good comic relief, on this and similar board systems.

All fixed.

 

[Kondor3]

Sadly, most American citizens have been brainwashed into thinking that Israel is our 51st state.

And the U.S. is constitutionally obligated to support and defend Israel at all costs. ......

The US is constitutionally obligated to support and defend Israel at all costs?

Seriously?

Care to cite the appropriate passage(s) - articles, amendments, etc. - in support of that?

Meanwhile...

Why does the US support and defend Israel?

Because we (America, collectively, and in the main) like Jews FAR better than we like Muslims.

Especially after 9-11.

We will not be bullied into allowing you (Muslims) to dictate to us, whom we may befriend, and choose as allies, and whom we may not.

 

[Sunni Man]

That's a lot of variables. Ships are almost never lost with all hands. Even in cases where the ship blows up like HMS Hood, you still have survivors.

The Liberty sailors testified that the Israel torpedo boats machine gunned the 3 rafts they put into the water. Which was a strong indication that Israeli wanted no survivors.

Once again, you should watch the video testimonies of the US sailors about what happened that day.

 

[Humanity]

That's a lot of variables. Ships are almost never lost with all hands. Even in cases where the ship blows up like HMS Hood, you still have survivors.

Also, if the US had entered on the side of Israel, the USSR would have entered on the side of the Arab countries. Not a good call for the US if most of her forces were deployed in Vietnam at the time.

Occam's Razor, baby. Usually the simplest explanation is true.

Simplest explanation- the ship wandered into a war zone and was fired on by mistake.

There were 3 survivors from HMS Hood. They were picked up about two hours after the sinking. Had there been no ships in the vicinity then there would have been no survivors.

As far as I am aware there were no support ships within a decent days steam away to pick up any survivors...

Had USS Liberty sunk then, it's highly likely that there would have been no survivors.

 

[Desperado]

That's a lot of variables. Ships are almost never lost with all hands. Even in cases where the ship blows up like HMS Hood, you still have survivors.

The Liberty sailors testified that the Israel torpedo boats machine gunned the 3 rafts they put into the water. Which was a strong indication that Israeli wanted no survivors.

Once again, you should watch the video testimonies of the US sailors about what happened that day.

Which brings up another great point. The attack on the Liberty was not just by air. Maybe, if you give a lot of the benefit of the doubt to Israel, the air attack might be attributed to mistaken identity but how the hell do you explain the patrol boats mistaking the USS Liberty for an Egyptian freighter?

 

[Humanity]

Sadly, most American citizens have been brainwashed into thinking that Israel is our 51st state.

And the U.S. is constitutionally obligated to support and defend Israel at all costs. ......

The US is constitutionally obligated to support and defend Israel at all costs?

Seriously?

Care to cite the appropriate passage(s) - articles, amendments, etc. - in support of that?

Meanwhile...

Why does the US support and defend Israel?

Because we (America, collectively, and in the main) like Jews FAR better than we like Muslims.

Especially after 9-11.

We will not be bullied into allowing you (Muslims) to dictate to us, whom we may befriend, and choose as allies, and whom we may not.

And thats totally within the American constitution isn't it!

 

[Sunni Man]

The US is constitutionally obligated to support and defend Israel at all costs?
Care to cite the appropriate passage(s) - articles, amendments, etc. - in support of that?

Learn to read Poindexter. .......

My statement was, Americans have been "brain washed into thinking" Israel is our 51st state and that we are constitutionally obligated to support and defend it.

 

[Humanity]

In the Israeli government investigations historical report, it was acknowledged that IDF naval headquarters knew at least three hours before the attack that the ship was "an electromagnetic audio-surveillance ship of the U.S. Navy"

There are other reports that state IDF knew of the USS Liberty upto 9 hours before the attack...

This is a very detailed account of the attack...

USS Liberty incident - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

 

[Humanity]

Possible reasons for the attack?

Excerpt taken from.... BBC NEWS Middle East Why did Israel attack USS Liberty

The assertion of a cover-up was lent weight by a 2003 independent commission of inquiry which reported that the attack on the Liberty "remains the only serious naval incident that has never been thoroughly investigated by Congress".

Among the most popular theories as to why Israel would take such drastic action against its superpower ally is that the Liberty, a $40m state-of-the-art surveillance ship, was eavesdropping on an Israeli massacre of Egyptian prisoners of war.

Israel strongly denies its troops executed Egyptian POWs, saying those who died in an incident at that time were 250 armed Palestinian fighters killed in action.

Another is that the ship had learnt of secret Israeli plans to invade Syria's Golan Heights two days later and had to be destroyed.

 

[Kondor3]

The US is constitutionally obligated to support and defend Israel at all costs?
Care to cite the appropriate passage(s) - articles, amendments, etc. - in support of that?

Learn to read Poindexter. .......

My statement was, Americans have been "brain washed into thinking" Israel is our 51st state and that we are constitutionally obligated to support and defend it.

I knew that was what you meant, when I wrote the question.

I just wanted the audience to hear it from you.

And, by way of counterpoint...

I cannot name one single person who believes that the United States of America is constitutionally obligated to support and defend any other country.

Not one single person.

Can you?

Oh, and, while you're cooking up an answer to that...

Just who is it, that you believe has been doing this so-called 'brain-washing' ?

Care to name names?

 

[Hossfly]

Sadly, most American citizens have been brainwashed into thinking that Israel is our 51st state.

And the U.S. is constitutionally obligated to support and defend Israel at all costs. ......

Which of course is unconstitutional!

No No No! We got Obamacide now.

 

[Kondor3]

I knew that was what you meant, when I wrote the question.

I just wanted the audience to hear it from you.

And, by way of counterpoint...

I cannot name one single person who believes that the United States of America is constitutionally obligated to support and defend any other country.

Not one single person.

Can you?

Oh, and, while you're cooking up an answer to that...

Just who is it, that you believe has been doing this so-called 'brain-washing' ?

Care to name names?

Crickets

 

[Sunni Man]

Crickets

We have a ZOG controlled government and educational system.

And our media and financial institutions are also zionist jew owned and controlled.

They put Israel's interests above America's interests in both domestic and foreign affairs. .....

 

[Hossfly]

Crickets

We have a ZOG controlled government and educational system.

And our media and financial institutions are also zionist jew owned and controlled.

They put Israel's interests above America's interests in both domestic and foreign affairs. .....

Shit happened, didn't it! Que sera sera.

 

[Kondor3]

Crickets

We have a ZOG controlled government and educational system.

And our media and financial institutions are also zionist jew owned and controlled.

They put Israel's interests above America's interests in both domestic and foreign affairs. .....

That's alright.

Next, the Zionists are going to gather-up all of you non-US-citizen Muslims residing in the US, and put you into Deportation Camps, awaiting expulsion.

Afterwards, the Zionists are going to gather-up all of you US domestic Muslims and put you into Reeducation Camps, to get your heads right again.

The Jews are coming for you.

And the Christians are going to let them get you.

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[Sunni Man]

America today is much like pre Nazi Germany right after WWl

The jews owned the banks and controlled the media.

They spread immorality using the media and sought to destroy German culture.

Jews were the leading proponents of communism in Germany. ......

 

[SAYIT]

In the Israeli government investigations historical report, it was acknowledged that IDF naval headquarters knew at least three hours before the attack that the ship was "an electromagnetic audio-surveillance ship of the U.S. Navy"

There are other reports that state IDF knew of the USS Liberty upto 9 hours before the attack...

This is a very detailed account of the attack...

USS Liberty incident - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Typical attempt to deceive by an anti-Israel/anti-Jew cabalist.
While it is true Israel identified an American Naval vessel hours before, as witnessed by the changes of the Liberty's position and status they had no reason to believe the Liberty was that vessel. From your source (note that Rabin made no mention of an American ship in the area):
At 11:24 am, Israeli Chief of Naval Operations received a report that Arish was being shelled from the sea...
Additionally, at 11:27 am Israeli Supreme Command Head of Operations received a report stating that a ship had been shelling Arish, but the shells had fallen short...
At 11:45 am, another report arrived at Supreme Command saying two ships were approaching the Arish coast...
As Commander Oren headed toward Arish, he was informed by Naval Operations of the reported shelling of Arish and told that IAF aircraft would be dispatched to the area after the target had been detected...
Chief of Staff Yitzhak Rabin was concerned that the supposed Egyptian shelling was the prelude to an amphibious landing that could outflank Israeli forces. Rabin reiterated the standing order to sink any unidentified ships in the area, but advised caution, as Soviet vessels were reportedly operating nearby...