A Serious Question that apparently no one wants to answer

[Crepitus]

Don't want Universal Basic Income, Crepitus? The progressive wing of the Democratic Party does! They'd be more than happy to pay people to sit at home on their asses rather than work a "demeaning" job! But you don't want anything to do with THAT...right?

Am I allowed to participate in this discussion or is that just between you and what your aledged mind thinks I might say?

 

[frigidweirdo]

Oh, for god's sake...this notion that bosses don't respect their employees is so tired! The reality is that bosses absolutely TREASURE their good employees and will generally bend over backwards not to lose them! Do bosses not respect their bad employees? Heck, yeah! There's nothing worse than paying someone who could care less about the job. It drives bosses up the wall.

Well, I've had bad bosses that didn't treasure anyone but themselves. So....

And yes, there are people who don't care about their work as well, people who want to be lazy.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Don't want Universal Basic Income, Crepitus? The progressive wing of the Democratic Party does! They'd be more than happy to pay people to sit at home on their asses rather than work a "demeaning" job! But you don't want anything to do with THAT...right?

There are two issues with Universal Basic Income. The first is that yes, people will be lazy. I'm opposed to it, I think the Warsaw Pact countries showed that when people don't have to work, some won't.

The other issue is the coming of robots and automation. Will we find enough jobs to not have UBI?

 

[danielpalos]

Something where they get paid for sitting around the house? THAT kind of job? Oh wait...that wasn't a job...that was just politicians buying their votes with taxpayer money! Of course they don't want to go back! They liked sitting on their asses and they think that the Democrats will keep the money coming!

If you knew anything about economics you would know that we get the best bang for our stimulus buck by solving simple poverty at the bottom. Scale economies and the Poor tending to circulate (spend) most of their income sooner rather than later is what helps achieve a multiplier of two for that type of public which also functions as an automatic stabilizer for our economy.

Full employment of resources in the market for Labor can only lead to greater efficiency through greater participation in our market based economy due to the virtual elimination of simple poverty in our at-will employment States and using existing legal and physical infrastructure.

Right-wingers have no better solutions at lower cost. Equal protection of the laws for capital resources under our form of Capitalism leads to greater equality through greater potential for market participation in a manner analogous to this political social concept:

If liberty and equality are chiefly to be found in democracy, they will be best attained when all persons alike share in government to the utmost.--Aristotle

 

[danielpalos]

Don't want Universal Basic Income, Crepitus? The progressive wing of the Democratic Party does! They'd be more than happy to pay people to sit at home on their asses rather than work a "demeaning" job! But you don't want anything to do with THAT...right?

Equality of outcomes?

Solving simple poverty on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States can lead to this "efficiency":

If liberty and equality are chiefly to be found in democracy, they will be best attained when all persons alike share in government to the utmost.--Aristotle

 

[Faun]

Why, exactly, are America's restaurants and other food and service businesses having so much trouble finding workers? Restaurants, gyms, coffee shops, swimming pools, golf courses, retail stores...what gives?

The Politicization of Everything has resulted in the two sides opposing along the matter of extended and enhanced unemployment compensation. The political Right says the people who would normally be working these jobs are staying home because of the generous UEC benefits, while the Left says, No Way! People are NOT refusing to work because of the extra money! It's just the CHEAP employers being unwilling to pay fair wages!

But it wouldn't be that difficult to find the real answer. "We" know the names of the people who held those jobs before the Cajuna Virus took over; call them up and ask why they are not coming back. Better yet: stop the extended and enhanced UEC payments and see if there is any impact on the unfilled jobs.

Inquiring minds want to know.

A big reason is the stimulus which is paying people to not work. Watch how many people go back to work when their benefits expire.

 

[YoursTruly]

Why, exactly, are America's restaurants and other food and service businesses having so much trouble finding workers? Restaurants, gyms, coffee shops, swimming pools, golf courses, retail stores...what gives?

The Politicization of Everything has resulted in the two sides opposing along the matter of extended and enhanced unemployment compensation. The political Right says the people who would normally be working these jobs are staying home because of the generous UEC benefits, while the Left says, No Way! People are NOT refusing to work because of the extra money! It's just the CHEAP employers being unwilling to pay fair wages!

But it wouldn't be that difficult to find the real answer. "We" know the names of the people who held those jobs before the Cajuna Virus took over; call them up and ask why they are not coming back. Better yet: stop the extended and enhanced UEC payments and see if there is any impact on the unfilled jobs.

Inquiring minds want to know.

But Covid is coming back. Can't stop the benefits now.

BTW, a fair wage for what? $15hr to flip and serve hamburgers? I know people who actually work, and don't get $15hr. But, FYI, I'm not opposed to the minimum wage increase. It's just a symptom of the real problem, which is the USD value. ($10hr here is a poverty wage. Just across our southern border, $10hr is a lower upper class wage.)

Working is over rated. If you ain't upper middle class, then you're working to just survive. People get tired of just surviving and want to just sit back and live a little. Especially those of us who are 50+yrs old. Kids watched their parents just surviving. When they grew up, they didn't want to go down that road, because it just leads to more work and more surviving.
I predict GenZ will be the least producing generation this country has ever had. We only thought the millennials were lazy.

Step 1. Train the people only to consume.

 

[danielpalos]

A big reason is the stimulus which is paying people to not work. Watch how many people go back to work when their benefits expire.

Why is capitalism not responding in a more market friendly manner? Unemployment is a market based phenomenon. Any market economy should be able to arbitrage with a market for Labor. Demand and Supply are considered economic Laws.

Only right-wingers are against being Legal to economic Laws.

 

[Faun]

Why is capitalism not responding in a more market friendly manner? Unemployment is a market based phenomenon. Any market economy should be able to arbitrage with a market for Labor. Demand and Supply are considered economic Laws.

Only right-wingers are against being Legal to economic Laws.

Because America is not a strict capitalistic nation.

 

[danielpalos]

Because America is not a strict capitalistic nation.

Isn't that part of the problem? Our welfare clause is General and our Commerce clause, in particular, implies the Capitalism of a market based economy of which to Regulate. One line of reasoning suggests those policies public that generate the best multiplier should be established as that fixed Standard by Congress, as a matter of course.

 

[dblack]

When employers can't match UE my question is why are they being so cheap? And if they can't match UE then why are they hiring?

Would you continue to go out to eat out if prices doubled? If not, why would you be so cheap?

 

[Oldestyle]

If you knew anything about economics you would know that we get the best bang for our stimulus buck by solving simple poverty at the bottom. Scale economies and the Poor tending to circulate (spend) most of their income sooner rather than later is what helps achieve a multiplier of two for that type of public which also functions as an automatic stabilizer for our economy.

Full employment of resources in the market for Labor can only lead to greater efficiency through greater participation in our market based economy due to the virtual elimination of simple poverty in our at-will employment States and using existing legal and physical infrastructure.

Right-wingers have no better solutions at lower cost. Equal protection of the laws for capital resources under our form of Capitalism leads to greater equality through greater potential for market participation in a manner analogous to this political social concept:

If liberty and equality are chiefly to be found in democracy, they will be best attained when all persons alike share in government to the utmost.--Aristotle

Giving people in poverty stimulus money doesn't "solve" poverty, Daniel! What does that is getting them a job! There is no better solution to poverty then a steady paycheck.

I'm curious, Daniel...does that second paragraph even make sense to you...the person who wrote it? You really need to take a writing class and have someone teach you how to communicate in a way that's understandable. What you post now is gibberish.

 

[Oldestyle]

Isn't that part of the problem? Our welfare clause is General and our Commerce clause, in particular, implies the Capitalism of a market based economy of which to Regulate. One line of reasoning suggests those policies public that generate the best multiplier should be established as that fixed Standard by Congress, as a matter of course.

God, you are the worst...it's as if someone gave you a sentence and instructed you to make it as verbose and unintelligible as possible! Who writes that kind of crap?

 

[danielpalos]

Giving people in poverty stimulus money doesn't "solve" poverty,

Solving for capitalism's natural unemployment on an at-will basis can solve that simple form of poverty in our at-will employment States.

 

[Oldestyle]

Solving for capitalism's natural unemployment on an at-will basis can solve that simple form of poverty in our at-will employment States.

You really are a buffoon, Daniel! Somehow you think typing gibberish like that makes you sound intelligent and it DOESN'T! What is Capitalism's natural unemployment? What is it that solves poverty? Again...what is simple poverty? You keep uttering things that make no sense at all like if you say them enough times...they'll make sense!

 

[JohnDB]

Low paying jobs are usually service jobs... sometimes skilled and licensed service but still lower end.

And now these service jobs come with the added risk of having to deal with antivaxxers and anti-mask people in high people traffic...

The risks of getting sick and being out for outrageous hospital bills is sky high. In other words you can work for weeks and months enduring every flavor of jerk and Karen just to end up spending your entire salary you earned on hospital bills.
And most people are saying, "no thanks"

 

[danielpalos]

You really are a buffoon, Daniel! Somehow you think typing gibberish like that makes you sound intelligent and it DOESN'T! What is Capitalism's natural unemployment? What is it that solves poverty? Again...what is simple poverty? You keep uttering things that make no sense at all like if you say them enough times...they'll make sense!

Still not dumb enough for the right-wing?

 

[miketx]

Here's how life works:

You get what you pay for. If you don't pay, you don't get.

Now I know you people loved your slavery back in the day when America was great, buy why is the above so hard to understand?

Our slavery? No you demoroid scum caused all that.

 

[Oldestyle]

Still not dumb enough for the right-wing?

Maybe you should get cue cards like Joe Biden, Daniel? That way you won't sound so ridiculous? Have someone you know who's smart...write down smart things for you to say!

 

[HenryBHough]

Simple enough answer.

Most people prefer not to work when they can have higher income by suckling at the governmant teat than from breaking a sweat.

What I am finding puzzling is that so few who could really make big bucks on overtime seem reluctant to do more than the bare minimum.