A Question for Socialists - Wealth Inequality

[tooAlive]

Do you believe someone should be compensated according to the amount of work he or she produces?

For example. Wal-Mart's CEO earns about 1,167 times what his average employee earns.

Does that seem fair or unfair? I'll post my response once a few of you reply.

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By socialist logic, Wal-Mart's CEO is vastly underpaid. See, they believe someone should be directly compensated based on their labor. Any more, and they're unfairly exploiting others.

Wal-Mart's CEO is responsible for employing 2.1 million people. So in reality, he should be earning 2.1 million times what the average worker earns, not 1,167.

 

[Politico]

Yes we already do that. It's called capitalism not socialism.

 

[ba1614]

Of course not, they think the most useless DESERVES as much as the most productive. Their utopian wet dream would be to tax everyone at 100% so they could dish it out how they see fit.

 

[Claudette]

Of course not, they think the most useless DESERVES as much as the most productive. Their utopian wet dream would be to tax everyone at 100% so they could dish it out how they see fit.

Yup. Its the Progressive way. Why work for it when you can get it handed to you by the numbnuts we elect to represent us.

Will be interesting when the takers outnumber the producers. Sure hope I'm long gone before that happens.

 

[tooAlive]

By socialist logic, Wal-Mart's CEO is vastly underpaid. See, they believe someone should be directly compensated based on their labor. Any more, and they're unfairly exploiting others.

Wal-Mart's CEO is responsible for employing 2.1 million people. So in reality, he should be earning 2.1 million times what the average worker earns, not 1,167.

 

[Freemason9]

By socialist logic, Wal-Mart's CEO is vastly underpaid. See, they believe someone should be directly compensated based on their labor. Any more, and they're unfairly exploiting others.

Wal-Mart's CEO is responsible for employing 2.1 million people. So in reality, he should be earning 2.1 million times what the average worker earns, not 1,167.

Great idea, but don't whine too loudly when they come at you with the torches and pitchforks.

You see, only a relatively small percentage of people are so obsessed with control. Dollars represent control, so those control freaks amass as many dollars as they can while nobody else pays much attention--until it impacts their lives and families.

There will always be monstrous control freaks, and that's why we have governments--after all, who wants to spend time watching their backs all the time?

The kind of wealth control you support and promote is a social pathology.

 

[bitterlyclingin]

Supply and demand at work there. How many folks can run a business the size of the Wal Mart empire, keep it functioning efficiently and profitably, versus how many folks are there out there that can stand in the Wal Mart entryway and say "Hello, can I help you?" endlessly and mindlessly?
Plenty of folk out there that will sit barefoot on the sidewalk, as well, waiting for a sucker to come along and throw a coupla bucks in the tin cup they got conveniently alongside 'em.
Betcha they all voted for Baracky Obammunist, too. Making indolence and sloth comfortable, one Democratic voter at a time.

 

[Sallow]

Supply and demand at work there. How many folks can run a business the size of the Wal Mart empire, keep it functioning efficiently and profitably, versus how many folks are there out there that can stand in the Wal Mart entryway and say "Hello, can I help you?" endlessly and mindlessly?
Plenty of folk out there that will sit barefoot on the sidewalk, as well, waiting for a sucker to come along and throw a coupla bucks in the tin cup they got conveniently alongside 'em.
Betcha they all voted for Baracky Obammunist, too. Making indolence and sloth comfortable, one Democratic voter at a time.

Sam Walton died in 1992. He started the company and ran it. Thus the tough part is basically done.

 

[Freemason9]

Supply and demand at work there. How many folks can run a business the size of the Wal Mart empire, keep it functioning efficiently and profitably, versus how many folks are there out there that can stand in the Wal Mart entryway and say "Hello, can I help you?" endlessly and mindlessly?
Plenty of folk out there that will sit barefoot on the sidewalk, as well, waiting for a sucker to come along and throw a coupla bucks in the tin cup they got conveniently alongside 'em.
Betcha they all voted for Baracky Obammunist, too. Making indolence and sloth comfortable, one Democratic voter at a time.

The answer depends upon how you value human lives, and souls. If you truly believe that a Walmart heir is worth thousands more than a "regular guy," then that is a reflection of your personal value system.

You should understand, though, that many others have vastly different value systems than you. You are mistaken if you think your priorities reign supreme.

 

[tooAlive]

Supply and demand at work there. How many folks can run a business the size of the Wal Mart empire, keep it functioning efficiently and profitably, versus how many folks are there out there that can stand in the Wal Mart entryway and say "Hello, can I help you?" endlessly and mindlessly?
Plenty of folk out there that will sit barefoot on the sidewalk, as well, waiting for a sucker to come along and throw a coupla bucks in the tin cup they got conveniently alongside 'em.
Betcha they all voted for Baracky Obammunist, too. Making indolence and sloth comfortable, one Democratic voter at a time.

The answer depends upon how you value human lives, and souls. If you truly believe that a Walmart heir is worth thousands more than a "regular guy," then that is a reflection of your personal value system.

You should understand, though, that many others have vastly different value systems than you. You are mistaken if you think your priorities reign supreme.

I believe human lives are priceless.

We're not putting dollar signs on individuals. We're just saying whether or not people should be compensated fairly for the amount of work they're responsible for.

 

[DiamondDave]

Supply and demand at work there. How many folks can run a business the size of the Wal Mart empire, keep it functioning efficiently and profitably, versus how many folks are there out there that can stand in the Wal Mart entryway and say "Hello, can I help you?" endlessly and mindlessly?
Plenty of folk out there that will sit barefoot on the sidewalk, as well, waiting for a sucker to come along and throw a coupla bucks in the tin cup they got conveniently alongside 'em.
Betcha they all voted for Baracky Obammunist, too. Making indolence and sloth comfortable, one Democratic voter at a time.

Sam Walton died in 1992. He started the company and ran it. Thus the tough part is basically done.

Yeah.. because it does not take skill, effort, and hard work to keep a company going after it is started and successful at one point

That is why top companies scurry to shed their experienced and skilled executives to put bums, burger flippers, janitors, and gas station attendants in charge (saving huge amounts of money) to just sit at the helm while the company coasts to profits

 

[Freemason9]

Supply and demand at work there. How many folks can run a business the size of the Wal Mart empire, keep it functioning efficiently and profitably, versus how many folks are there out there that can stand in the Wal Mart entryway and say "Hello, can I help you?" endlessly and mindlessly?
Plenty of folk out there that will sit barefoot on the sidewalk, as well, waiting for a sucker to come along and throw a coupla bucks in the tin cup they got conveniently alongside 'em.
Betcha they all voted for Baracky Obammunist, too. Making indolence and sloth comfortable, one Democratic voter at a time.

The answer depends upon how you value human lives, and souls. If you truly believe that a Walmart heir is worth thousands more than a "regular guy," then that is a reflection of your personal value system.

You should understand, though, that many others have vastly different value systems than you. You are mistaken if you think your priorities reign supreme.

I believe human lives are priceless.

We're not putting dollar signs on individuals. We're just saying whether or not people should be compensated fairly for the amount of work they're responsible for.

I suppose that, yes, compensation is due. However, all people (in my belief system) should be working and contributing to society in some manner. If a person lives their life correctly, they should not have to struggle for food, housing, education, or health care. Also, I don't see how anyone can justify a kingly existence, either.

Everyone works to the extent of their ability based upon opportunity, motivation, compensation, and health.

 

[Sallow]

Supply and demand at work there. How many folks can run a business the size of the Wal Mart empire, keep it functioning efficiently and profitably, versus how many folks are there out there that can stand in the Wal Mart entryway and say "Hello, can I help you?" endlessly and mindlessly?
Plenty of folk out there that will sit barefoot on the sidewalk, as well, waiting for a sucker to come along and throw a coupla bucks in the tin cup they got conveniently alongside 'em.
Betcha they all voted for Baracky Obammunist, too. Making indolence and sloth comfortable, one Democratic voter at a time.

Sam Walton died in 1992. He started the company and ran it. Thus the tough part is basically done.

Yeah.. because it does not take skill, effort, and hard work to keep a company going after it is started and successful at one point

That is why top companies scurry to shed their experienced and skilled executives to put bums, burger flippers, janitors, and gas station attendants in charge (saving huge amounts of money) to just sit at the helm while the company coasts to profits

The first few years of a company's life are generally the roughest.

Once it's up and running, there are multiple processes in place to keep it going.

Paying attention to trends is basically the hardest part of that.

 

[DiamondDave]

The answer depends upon how you value human lives, and souls. If you truly believe that a Walmart heir is worth thousands more than a "regular guy," then that is a reflection of your personal value system.

You should understand, though, that many others have vastly different value systems than you. You are mistaken if you think your priorities reign supreme.

I believe human lives are priceless.

We're not putting dollar signs on individuals. We're just saying whether or not people should be compensated fairly for the amount of work they're responsible for.

I suppose that, yes, compensation is due. However, all people (in my belief system) should be working and contributing to society in some manner. If a person lives their life correctly, they should not have to struggle for food, housing, education, or health care. Also, I don't see how anyone can justify a kingly existence, either.

Everyone works to the extent of their ability based upon opportunity, motivation, compensation, and health.

Correctly because you FEEL it is correct??

No.. life is supposed to have challenges.. its not supposed to be so anyone with minimal effort can just coast and have their needs taken care of.... If you have no ambition, drive, want to advance skills, etc, you should not have an easy time affording your own house, great food, great education, all the healthcare you want for whatever treatment while flipping burgers or scrubbing urinals at minimum wage

 

[DiamondDave]

Sam Walton died in 1992. He started the company and ran it. Thus the tough part is basically done.

Yeah.. because it does not take skill, effort, and hard work to keep a company going after it is started and successful at one point

That is why top companies scurry to shed their experienced and skilled executives to put bums, burger flippers, janitors, and gas station attendants in charge (saving huge amounts of money) to just sit at the helm while the company coasts to profits

The first few years of a company's life are generally the roughest.

Once it's up and running, there are multiple processes in place to keep it going.

Paying attention to trends is basically the hardest part of that.

Yeah... so what was GM's excuse for a bailout then??

You are so fucking wrong it is unfathomable

 

[occupied]

I believe that employee wages should somewhat keep pace with management wages. If a profitable company cannot afford to increase wages for long-time employees they should not reward the board with ever sweeter deals and especially not reward the management of a troubled, failing company with golden parachutes.

 

[Freemason9]

I believe human lives are priceless.

We're not putting dollar signs on individuals. We're just saying whether or not people should be compensated fairly for the amount of work they're responsible for.

I suppose that, yes, compensation is due. However, all people (in my belief system) should be working and contributing to society in some manner. If a person lives their life correctly, they should not have to struggle for food, housing, education, or health care. Also, I don't see how anyone can justify a kingly existence, either.

Everyone works to the extent of their ability based upon opportunity, motivation, compensation, and health.

Correctly because you FEEL it is correct??

No.. life is supposed to have challenges.. its not supposed to be so anyone with minimal effort can just coast and have their needs taken care of.... If you have no ambition, drive, want to advance skills, etc, you should not have an easy time affording your own house, great food, great education, all the healthcare you want for whatever treatment while flipping burgers or scrubbing urinals at minimum wage

Because you FEEL that is the way it should be?

I don't know if life is SUPPOSED to have "challenges," but life is full of difficulty. For everyone. Our karmic responsibility is to improve our personal destiny, and part of that involves caring for others. You would do well to carefully examine that idea, because you seem to be wandering very far from the path.

 

[DiamondDave]

I believe that employee wages should somewhat keep pace with management wages. If a profitable company cannot afford to increase wages for long-time employees they should not reward the board with ever sweeter deals and especially not reward the management of a troubled, failing company with golden parachutes.

I believe that if you want a raise.. you do something to advance to earn it... you don't just get it because your leadership does, or because you are sweeping floors while the executive team hammers out new deals or the engineering team creates a new innovation that sells like gangbusters

 

[ilia25]

I believe that employee wages should somewhat keep pace with management wages. If a profitable company cannot afford to increase wages for long-time employees they should not reward the board with ever sweeter deals and especially not reward the management of a troubled, failing company with golden parachutes.

Why, CEOs are getting their bonuses and golden parachutes as a fair market compensation. And that the way it should be -- we have the market economy so it would reward higher productivity.

It does not mean, however, that rewarding productivity is fair. Rewarding the efforts would be fair, but productivity of the same efforts could be vastly different.

So in order to keep the unfairness to the necessary minimum (just enough to reward the higher productivity) we need a progressive tax system. CEOs making millions should pay at least 70% marginal tax rate.

 

[LogikAndReazon]

The way to go through life is to whine, complain and obsess over the "1%", because pussified commies need an imaginary enemy to rally around.................

"Workers of the World", Unite !!!!