A Question For Our Truth Movement Members

Someone not politically motivated, no one from NIST.
Who indeed....


WTC Research Alliance

A second draft bill setting up an independent science and technology investigation into the World Trade Center destruction was presented March 16-17 in Washington D.C. to science/technology aides of eight House members for action this year.

The bill continues to propose a 25-member committee with subpoena power, chosen from the national and international community of renown scientists of Nobel laureates, as well as structural engineers, architects, and other technological specialists—those in demolition, advanced weaponry, and 9/11 first-responders.


SEC. 2. PURPOSES AND FUNCTIONS

(a) Purposes – The purpose of this Act is to establish a committee of independent experts in science and technology to perform a detailed, substantive, evidence-based, comprehensive investigation of the array of widely reported theories concerning the cause of the destruction of WTC 1, 2, and 7. To also issue a report of its findings to the President and to the Congress, which shall also recommend legislative action, regulatory changes governing the construction and maintenance of steel-framed high-rise structures, and make accountable those who perpetrated this horrific event.


SEC. 3. ESTABLISHMENT
There is to be established an independent group known as the Science and Technological Committee to Investigate the Structural Failures of the New York City World Trade Center’s Twin Towers and Building No. 7 (in this Act referred to as the ‘Committee’).

SEC. 4. MEMBERSHIP

(a) Members – The Committee shall exclude members of the 9/11 movement and be composed of the following 25 individuals or their designees drawn from national and international experts of the highest repute in the science and technological world:

(1) 1 Member shall be designated chair by the mutual consultation of the Committee chair and ranking member. Credentials shall require internationally recognized expertise in structural engineering or architecture for steel-framed, high-rise buildings or the chemical or nuclear sciences.

Remaining members will be selected by consultations of the House Committee’s chair, and the ranking member, and the Act’s Committee chair. Requirements for those drawn from the scientific and technological fields are significant international and national credentials. Committee membership distribution is as follows:


(1) 2 Members from the architects and engineers who designed and built the WTC.

(2) 3 Members with expertise in steel-framed buildings——one in architecture, one in engineering, one in construction.

(3) 2 Members from the National Association of Demolition Contractors and international counterparts with expertise on steel-framed high-rise buildings.

(4) 2 Members from the custodial and maintenance staffs of the WTC 1, 2, and 7 on duty September 11, 2001.

(5) 3 Members of the New York City Fire Department——a chief, an arson specialist, and a firefighter——on duty September 11, 2001 at WTC 1, 2, or 7.

(6) 2 Members of the New York City Police Department——a chief and a patrol officer on duty September 11, 2001 at WTC 1, 2, or 7.

(7) 2 Members——one from FEMA, one from NIST——involved in researching and producing the WTC destruction reports.

(8) 2 Members with expertise in high-yield explosives.

(9) 4 Members with expertise in weaponry research and production——one in missiles, one in directed-energy lasers, one in nuclear munitions, one in nuclear-energy production.

(10) 2 Members with expertise in video manipulation via such programs as PhotoShop.

(11) 1 Member of the House Committee on Science and Technology with expertise in structural engineering, architecture, or the sciences.


8 House Members to Mull 2nd Draft Bill on Science/Tech Probe of WTC Destruction Causes « WTC RESEARCH ALLIANCE

Draft Bill to Reinvestigate Collapse of World Trade Center: 2010 « WTC RESEARCH ALLIANCE
then no one from any 911truth organzations could participate either.

here's the "wtc research alliance's mission statement:Mission Statement
Hearing Number 1: 2002 House Science Hearing on the Collapse of the World Trade Center
2nd House Hearing: Collapse of the World Trade Center, May 1, 2002
Hearing Number 3: 2005 House Science Hearing on the Collapse of the World Trade Center
Part 1 of 4: Were Nuclear Reactors the Cause of the WTC Destruction?
Part 2 of 4: Were Mini-Nuke Bombs the Cause of the WTC Destruction?
Part 3 of 4: Did Plasmoid Gas and Infrared Beams Cause the WTC Destruction?
Part 4 of 4: Did Fluorine Cause the WTC Destruction?....:eusa_whistle:

I see you still don't bother to read posts....


(a) Members – The Committee shall exclude members of the 9/11 movement and be composed of the following 25 individuals or their designees drawn from national and international experts of the highest repute in the science and technological world:.....
whatever...too busy lmao..
 
then no one from any 911truth organzations could participate either.

here's the "wtc research alliance's mission statement:Mission Statement
Hearing Number 1: 2002 House Science Hearing on the Collapse of the World Trade Center
2nd House Hearing: Collapse of the World Trade Center, May 1, 2002
Hearing Number 3: 2005 House Science Hearing on the Collapse of the World Trade Center
Part 1 of 4: Were Nuclear Reactors the Cause of the WTC Destruction?
Part 2 of 4: Were Mini-Nuke Bombs the Cause of the WTC Destruction?
Part 3 of 4: Did Plasmoid Gas and Infrared Beams Cause the WTC Destruction?
Part 4 of 4: Did Fluorine Cause the WTC Destruction?....:eusa_whistle:

I see you still don't bother to read posts....


(a) Members – The Committee shall exclude members of the 9/11 movement and be composed of the following 25 individuals or their designees drawn from national and international experts of the highest repute in the science and technological world:.....
whatever...too busy lmao..

You keep proving what an imbecile you are, that's nothing new furthermore..if your so busy why are you even on here so much and bothering to post? It's obvious you don't take the time to read or think before you post your nonsense. :lol: you're a laughing stock.
 
then no one from any 911truth organzations could participate either.

here's the "wtc research alliance's mission statement:Mission Statement
Hearing Number 1: 2002 House Science Hearing on the Collapse of the World Trade Center
2nd House Hearing: Collapse of the World Trade Center, May 1, 2002
Hearing Number 3: 2005 House Science Hearing on the Collapse of the World Trade Center
Part 1 of 4: Were Nuclear Reactors the Cause of the WTC Destruction?
Part 2 of 4: Were Mini-Nuke Bombs the Cause of the WTC Destruction?
Part 3 of 4: Did Plasmoid Gas and Infrared Beams Cause the WTC Destruction?
Part 4 of 4: Did Fluorine Cause the WTC Destruction?....:eusa_whistle:

Here is the first part of the mission statement you left out...

Mission Statement

"The aim of the WTC Research Alliance’s Legislative Division is to institute a non-political, independent, and substantive scientific and technological investigation of the causal agent(s) involved in the destruction of New York City’s World Trade Center on September 11, 2001. That it be conducted by renown national and international experts in those two fields free from the influence of governmental and entities and the 9/11 Truth movement. That this 25-person committee issue an unclassified and complete public report of its findings within a year of its inception.

The WTC Research Alliance is an independent organization, dedicated to independent and individual research."

You should have taken notice of this as it would have made your stupid post of not having 9-11 truth members allowed moot.
BTW plasmoid gas, and infrared beams and fluorine gas can be proven to exists much more readily then the 19 Arabs with box cutters who had limited flying experience story, BS :lol:
:lol::lol:

Fucking moron.:cuckoo::cuckoo: Idiots like you are worse than the assholes that watch American Idol.

:up_yours::asshole::banned:
 
I see you still don't bother to read posts....


(a) Members – The Committee shall exclude members of the 9/11 movement and be composed of the following 25 individuals or their designees drawn from national and international experts of the highest repute in the science and technological world:.....
whatever...too busy lmao..

You keep proving what an imbecile you are, that's nothing new furthermore..if your so busy why are you even on here so much and bothering to post? It's obvious you don't take the time to read or think before you post your nonsense. :lol: you're a laughing stock.
odd...the evidence says you get laughed at far more often then even 911hand job and 7whatever...
 

Here is the first part of the mission statement you left out...

Mission Statement

"The aim of the WTC Research Alliance’s Legislative Division is to institute a non-political, independent, and substantive scientific and technological investigation of the causal agent(s) involved in the destruction of New York City’s World Trade Center on September 11, 2001. That it be conducted by renown national and international experts in those two fields free from the influence of governmental and entities and the 9/11 Truth movement. That this 25-person committee issue an unclassified and complete public report of its findings within a year of its inception.

The WTC Research Alliance is an independent organization, dedicated to independent and individual research."

You should have taken notice of this as it would have made your stupid post of not having 9-11 truth members allowed moot.
BTW plasmoid gas, and infrared beams and fluorine gas can be proven to exists much more readily then the 19 Arabs with box cutters who had limited flying experience story, BS :lol:
:lol::lol:

Fucking moron.:cuckoo::cuckoo: Idiots like you are worse than the assholes that watch American Idol.

:up_yours::asshole::banned:

Fuck you and American idol too. In fact you're more likely to be among those people.
19 Arabs with box cutters..bypassing NORAD...knocking down 3 massive buildings.... with 2 planes...with kerosene as the magic fuel to do it in 10-12 seconds. :lol: :lol: :lol:
God, you're a stupid asshole! :lol:
 
Here is the first part of the mission statement you left out...

Mission Statement

"The aim of the WTC Research Alliance’s Legislative Division is to institute a non-political, independent, and substantive scientific and technological investigation of the causal agent(s) involved in the destruction of New York City’s World Trade Center on September 11, 2001. That it be conducted by renown national and international experts in those two fields free from the influence of governmental and entities and the 9/11 Truth movement. That this 25-person committee issue an unclassified and complete public report of its findings within a year of its inception.

The WTC Research Alliance is an independent organization, dedicated to independent and individual research."

You should have taken notice of this as it would have made your stupid post of not having 9-11 truth members allowed moot.
BTW plasmoid gas, and infrared beams and fluorine gas can be proven to exists much more readily then the 19 Arabs with box cutters who had limited flying experience story, BS :lol:
:lol::lol:

Fucking moron.:cuckoo::cuckoo: Idiots like you are worse than the assholes that watch American Idol.

:up_yours::asshole::banned:

Fuck you and American idol too. In fact you're more likely to be among those people.
19 Arabs with box cutters..bypassing NORAD...knocking down 3 massive buildings.... with 2 planes...with kerosene as the magic fuel to do it in 10-12 seconds. :lol: :lol: :lol:
God, you're a stupid asshole! :lol:
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OCD is the fourth most common mental disorder, and is diagnosed nearly as often as asthma and diabetes mellitus.[1] In the United States, one in 50 adults suffers from OCD.[2] Obsessive–compulsive disorder affects children and adolescents as well as adults. Roughly one third to one half of adults with OCD report a childhood onset of the disorder, suggesting the continuum of anxiety disorders across the life span.[3] The phrase "obsessive–compulsive" has become part of the English lexicon, and is often used in an informal or caricatured manner to describe someone who is excessively meticulous, perfectionistic, absorbed, or otherwise fixated.[4] Although these signs are present in OCD, a person who exhibits them does not necessarily have OCD, and may instead have obsessive–compulsive personality disorder (OCPD), an autism spectrum disorder, or no clinical condition. Multiple psychological and biological factors may be involved in causing obsessive–compulsive syndromes. Standardized rating scales such as Yale–Brown Obsessive Compulsive Scale can be used to assess the severity of OCD symptoms.[5] I KNEW YOU COULD!
 
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whatever...too busy lmao..

Talk about OCD! This idiot daws101 is a classic case :lol:
 
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whatever...too busy lmao..

Talk about OCD! This idiot daws101 is a classic case :lol:
the way you follow me around it must be love or obsession and that's a sure sign of OCD.:eusa_whistle:
 
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whatever...too busy lmao..

Talk about OCD! This idiot daws101 is a classic case :lol:
the way you follow me around it must be love or obsession and that's a sure sign of OCD.:eusa_whistle:

Just exposing you for the lying, fraud, sock puppet you really are is all :lol:
 
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Talk about OCD! This idiot daws101 is a classic case :lol:
the way you follow me around it must be love or obsession and that's a sure sign of OCD.:eusa_whistle:

Just exposing you for the lying, fraud, sock puppet you really are is all :lol:
ahhh the jilted boyfriend!
 
Who would be in charge of a new, independent investigation into the events of 9/11?

I have posed this question to some of the posters who believe in the Truth Movement, but have never gotten an answer, so I thought I would start this thread to see if any of them (or anyone I haven't asked) would be willing to do it here.
Someone not politically motivated, no one from NIST.
Who indeed....


WTC Research Alliance

A second draft bill setting up an independent science and technology investigation into the World Trade Center destruction was presented March 16-17 in Washington D.C. to science/technology aides of eight House members for action this year.

The bill continues to propose a 25-member committee with subpoena power, chosen from the national and international community of renown scientists of Nobel laureates, as well as structural engineers, architects, and other technological specialists—those in demolition, advanced weaponry, and 9/11 first-responders.


SEC. 2. PURPOSES AND FUNCTIONS

(a) Purposes – The purpose of this Act is to establish a committee of independent experts in science and technology to perform a detailed, substantive, evidence-based, comprehensive investigation of the array of widely reported theories concerning the cause of the destruction of WTC 1, 2, and 7. To also issue a report of its findings to the President and to the Congress, which shall also recommend legislative action, regulatory changes governing the construction and maintenance of steel-framed high-rise structures, and make accountable those who perpetrated this horrific event.


SEC. 3. ESTABLISHMENT
There is to be established an independent group known as the Science and Technological Committee to Investigate the Structural Failures of the New York City World Trade Center’s Twin Towers and Building No. 7 (in this Act referred to as the ‘Committee’).

SEC. 4. MEMBERSHIP

(a) Members – The Committee shall exclude members of the 9/11 movement and be composed of the following 25 individuals or their designees drawn from national and international experts of the highest repute in the science and technological world:

(1) 1 Member shall be designated chair by the mutual consultation of the Committee chair and ranking member. Credentials shall require internationally recognized expertise in structural engineering or architecture for steel-framed, high-rise buildings or the chemical or nuclear sciences.

Remaining members will be selected by consultations of the House Committee’s chair, and the ranking member, and the Act’s Committee chair. Requirements for those drawn from the scientific and technological fields are significant international and national credentials. Committee membership distribution is as follows:


(1) 2 Members from the architects and engineers who designed and built the WTC.

(2) 3 Members with expertise in steel-framed buildings——one in architecture, one in engineering, one in construction.

(3) 2 Members from the National Association of Demolition Contractors and international counterparts with expertise on steel-framed high-rise buildings.

(4) 2 Members from the custodial and maintenance staffs of the WTC 1, 2, and 7 on duty September 11, 2001.

(5) 3 Members of the New York City Fire Department——a chief, an arson specialist, and a firefighter——on duty September 11, 2001 at WTC 1, 2, or 7.

(6) 2 Members of the New York City Police Department——a chief and a patrol officer on duty September 11, 2001 at WTC 1, 2, or 7.

(7) 2 Members——one from FEMA, one from NIST——involved in researching and producing the WTC destruction reports.

(8) 2 Members with expertise in high-yield explosives.

(9) 4 Members with expertise in weaponry research and production——one in missiles, one in directed-energy lasers, one in nuclear munitions, one in nuclear-energy production.

(10) 2 Members with expertise in video manipulation via such programs as PhotoShop.

(11) 1 Member of the House Committee on Science and Technology with expertise in structural engineering, architecture, or the sciences.


8 House Members to Mull 2nd Draft Bill on Science/Tech Probe of WTC Destruction Causes « WTC RESEARCH ALLIANCE

Draft Bill to Reinvestigate Collapse of World Trade Center: 2010 « WTC RESEARCH ALLIANCE

First off, thanks for answering. In the last year, I have asked this on 4 boards, and you are the first one to ever give any kind of answer.

However, there are some problems with your reply.

First off, even you will not accept the result of this investigation panel...

Mr Jones said:
no one from NIST.

WTC Research Alliance said:
2 Members——one from FEMA, one from NIST——involved in researching and producing the WTC destruction reports.

Second, the WTC Research Alliance does not propose having a judge on the panel. Who on their proposed list has the authority to issue subpoenas? Even in a grand jury, there is a presiding judge that issues any needed subpoenas and warrants.

Third, your proposal contains this group.
(8) 2 Members with expertise in high-yield explosives.

(9) 4 Members with expertise in weaponry research and production——one in missiles, one in directed-energy lasers, one in nuclear munitions, one in nuclear-energy production.

(10) 2 Members with expertise in video manipulation via such programs as PhotoShop.

Why does your proposal include over 1/3 of it's members dedicated to conspiracy theory research? And especially the 4 to investigate missiles, lasers, and nuclear weapons? Were any of these events documented on 9/11? Although you claim this panel would not include truthers, this subset of the panel is clearly dedicated to introducing woo theories, and would "poison the well".


Again, I was a little surprised I got this answer from you. But I am not surprised that yours was the only answer I got in one week, and 671 views. With that many views, all of the Truth members had to have read the question, yet chose not to answer.

And now I am going to tell you why.

The TRUTHERS do NOT WANT a new investigation!!

That's right, they don't. They know that if there was one, no matter which way it ends up, they lose.

If a new panel that was set up to their specification came up with the same conclusions that NIST, FEMA, and the FBI did, their movement is over. They would be discredited, and any further cries of "inside job" would be ignored. And any calls for yet another investigation would be seen as "sour grapes".

If that same panel came back saying it was an inside job, the TRUTHERS(Mom, the basement light burned out again!!) would get 2 or 3 weeks of high fives from each other, and then would fade off into the sunset. Their sales of DVD's and books would drop off to zero. Dickey Gage would not be invited to conferences around the world to drop cardboard boxes on top of each other. When they opened their yaps to say "9/11 was an inside job". everyone would look at them and say, "yes, we know. now what else is new?'

Either way, their gravy train would be derailed. And Dickey Gage would have to go back to a real job. Unfortunately, it won't be as an architect, as he has burned every bridge he had in that profession. Which is why he will make sure a new investigation will NEVER happen.

Now watch. All the TRUTHERS(Dad, the baby's hitting me again) will now post here telling me how wrong I am. The only one I will pay any attention to is Mr Jones, as he was the only one to even make an effort to respond.

OH, and no eots, you never did answer the question. You only tried to muddy the waters with the debunked aluminum/water crap.
 
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More proof that the TRUTHERS(Mom, we're out of pop-tarts) don't want a new investigation.

Their petition to the White House only has 87 signatures in 11 days.

On Behalf of the People of the United States of America, the undersigned hereby petition for, and demand, a truly independent investigation with subpoena power in order to uncover the full truth surrounding the events of 9/11/01 – specifically the collapse of the World Trade Center Towers and Building 7

https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions/%21/petition/open-new-independent-investigation-events-911-focusing-twin-towers-and-collapse-building-7/kNg6V5QP

In comparison, the petition to Proclaim Oct. 29, 2011, as World Psoriasis Day has 919 signatures in 7 days.
https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions/!/petition/proclaim-oct-29-2011-world-psoriasis-day/yn2yxYyd

The petition to prohibit all federal agencies from promoting, endorsing, or funding fluoridation of the public drinking water has 2904 signatures in 10 days.
https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions/!/petition/prohibit-all-federal-agencies-promoting-endorsing-or-funding-fluoridation-public-drinking-water/SRYL4NwC

The petition to ban the sale, trade, and possession of shark and shark products, including shark fin has 3,246 signatures in 11 days.
https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions/!/petition/ban-sale-trade-and-possession-shark-and-shark-products-including-shark-fin/dBmF5cHP

And the petition to Immediately disclose the government's knowledge of and communications with extraterrestrial beings has 4,012 signatures in 11 days. 46 times the number of signatures as the 9/11 petition in the same time period.
https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions/!/petition/immediately-disclose-governments-knowledge-and-communications-extraterrestrial-beings/bGWkJk9Y

And, looking at the signatures on the 9/11 petition, not a single one of them is a member of the Truth movement. I would say that it should be a surprise, but my previous post explains why it is not.
 
It doesn't matter who does it, it'll never have credibility. The truth movement side will never trust the people who are tasked, unless it is people from the movement who have gained the movement's trust. In which case, people outside of the movement would then not trust it.

It's lose-lose no matter how you look at it.
 
More proof that the TRUTHERS(Mom, we're out of pop-tarts) don't want a new investigation.

Their petition to the White House only has 87 signatures in 11 days.

On Behalf of the People of the United States of America, the undersigned hereby petition for, and demand, a truly independent investigation with subpoena power in order to uncover the full truth surrounding the events of 9/11/01 – specifically the collapse of the World Trade Center Towers and Building 7

https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions/%21/petition/open-new-independent-investigation-events-911-focusing-twin-towers-and-collapse-building-7/kNg6V5QP

In comparison, the petition to Proclaim Oct. 29, 2011, as World Psoriasis Day has 919 signatures in 7 days.
https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions/!/petition/proclaim-oct-29-2011-world-psoriasis-day/yn2yxYyd

The petition to prohibit all federal agencies from promoting, endorsing, or funding fluoridation of the public drinking water has 2904 signatures in 10 days.
https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions/!/petition/prohibit-all-federal-agencies-promoting-endorsing-or-funding-fluoridation-public-drinking-water/SRYL4NwC

The petition to ban the sale, trade, and possession of shark and shark products, including shark fin has 3,246 signatures in 11 days.
https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions/!/petition/ban-sale-trade-and-possession-shark-and-shark-products-including-shark-fin/dBmF5cHP

And the petition to Immediately disclose the government's knowledge of and communications with extraterrestrial beings has 4,012 signatures in 11 days. 46 times the number of signatures as the 9/11 petition in the same time period.
https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions/!/petition/immediately-disclose-governments-knowledge-and-communications-extraterrestrial-beings/bGWkJk9Y

And, looking at the signatures on the 9/11 petition, not a single one of them is a member of the Truth movement. I would say that it should be a surprise, but my previous post explains why it is not.

In the 8 days since I posted this, the 9/11 has only gained 3 signatures, for a total of 90. And not a single signature from Richard G, Dylan A, Judy W, Tracy B, or Alex J.

In comparison, the UFO folks have gone from 4,012 to 4,635 for a gain of 623.

This is proof positive that the 9/11 truth movement really does not want "THE TRUTH".
 
Their petitions didn't work.

Their protests didn't work.

The stupid "Toronto Hearings" didn't work.

And this is what the TRUTHERS(Mommy, I wet my bed again) are reduced to, trying to get their silly message across...

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMq1PiUbf-M]9/11 Building 7 - Martin Noakes - YouTube[/ame]

And the best part is, he Godwin's himself at the 0:32 second mark. :lol:
 

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