A question for Elchorizo et al regarding grooming/pedophilia/child sexual assault comments

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elchorizo

I think it would be helpful to get clarification on this issue.

While I think such comments should be MUCH more tightly moderated, or perhaps forbidden entirely, the reality is that the forum contains THOUSANDS of posts containing references to these issues.

Most of these posts - 99% or more I'd say - consist of conservatives/Christians falsely claiming that Democrats/liberals/LGBTQ+ folk are attempting to groom children in various ways so that these children can be raped/mutilated by these alleged groomers.

In most instances, those who refute this bizarre claim are accused of supporting/promoting child grooming/mutilation/sexual assault as part of an insidious agenda.

These conservative/Christian comments are clearly within the forum's rules, as only direct accusations of pedophilia are forbidden.

Therefore, if a person from the falsely accused group - a liberal for instance - were to TRUTHFULLY point out that it is in fact conservative Christians as a group who represent the greatest danger of grooming/assaulting children, this would likewise be fully within forum rules.

Further, were this liberal to counter Christian/conservative defense or denial of this reality with the claim that said conservative/Christian was supporting/promoting such behavior, that would likewise be entirely within the forum rules, as conservatives/Christians have accused liberals, etc. of this THOUSANDS of times.

Please correct me if I've misunderstood anything.

My understanding is that there are NOT two standards at play here on the forum in which members of one group may make false and outrageous accusations aimed at members of certain other groups THOUSANDS of times, while members of these falsely accused groups may not turn the tables and engage in the same behavior, but based in truth, correct?

I look forward to a clarification of the standards being applied equally to ALL posters, and just have one more question as a side note.

If Joe says "I like to eat apples," does Joe mean that he likes to eat ALL apples, or by logical inference, only SOME apples?

Poison apples, metal apples, wax apples, wooden apples, worm-infested apples, apples dipped in sewage, radioactive and numerous other apple types would by simple logic be excluded, and Joe in fact may only be referring to SOME types of red apples, excluding MOST types of red, and ALL green and yellow.

I very much look forward to a mature discussion of these questions, although as originally noted, I feel that there should be MUCH tighter control - if not exclusion - of certain types of hyper-inflammatory comments on the forum.

Thanks! :)
 
elchorizo

I think it would be helpful to get clarification on this issue.

While I think such comments should be MUCH more tightly moderated, or perhaps forbidden entirely, the reality is that the forum contains THOUSANDS of posts containing references to these issues.

Most of these posts - 99% or more I'd say - consist of conservatives/Christians falsely claiming that Democrats/liberals/LGBTQ+ folk are attempting to groom children in various ways so that these children can be raped/mutilated by these alleged groomers.

In most instances, those who refute this bizarre claim are accused of supporting/promoting child grooming/mutilation/sexual assault as part of an insidious agenda.

These conservative/Christian comments are clearly within the forum's rules, as only direct accusations of pedophilia are forbidden.

Therefore, if a person from the falsely accused group - a liberal for instance - were to TRUTHFULLY point out that it is in fact conservative Christians as a group who represent the greatest danger of grooming/assaulting children, this would likewise be fully within forum rules.

Further, were this liberal to counter Christian/conservative defense or denial of this reality with the claim that said conservative/Christian was supporting/promoting such behavior, that would likewise be entirely within the forum rules, as conservatives/Christians have accused liberals, etc. of this THOUSANDS of times.

Please correct me if I've misunderstood anything.

My understanding is that there are NOT two standards at play here on the forum in which members of one group may make false and outrageous accusations aimed at members of certain other groups THOUSANDS of times, while members of these falsely accused groups may not turn the tables and engage in the same behavior, but based in truth, correct?

I look forward to a clarification of the standards being applied equally to ALL posters, and just have one more question as a side note.

If Joe says "I like to eat apples," does Joe mean that he likes to eat ALL apples, or by logical inference, only SOME apples?

Poison apples, metal apples, wax apples, wooden apples, worm-infested apples, apples dipped in sewage, radioactive and numerous other apple types would by simple logic be excluded, and Joe in fact may only be referring to SOME types of red apples, excluding MOST types of red, and ALL green and yellow.

I very much look forward to a mature discussion of these questions, although as originally noted, I feel that there should be MUCH tighter control - if not exclusion - of certain types of hyper-inflammatory comments on the forum.

Thanks! :)
It seems to be a fairly small group of trolls playing this game. Just report their bs and move on.
 
elchorizo

I think it would be helpful to get clarification on this issue.

While I think such comments should be MUCH more tightly moderated, or perhaps forbidden entirely, the reality is that the forum contains THOUSANDS of posts containing references to these issues.

Most of these posts - 99% or more I'd say - consist of conservatives/Christians falsely claiming that Democrats/liberals/LGBTQ+ folk are attempting to groom children in various ways so that these children can be raped/mutilated by these alleged groomers.

In most instances, those who refute this bizarre claim are accused of supporting/promoting child grooming/mutilation/sexual assault as part of an insidious agenda.

These conservative/Christian comments are clearly within the forum's rules, as only direct accusations of pedophilia are forbidden.

Therefore, if a person from the falsely accused group - a liberal for instance - were to TRUTHFULLY point out that it is in fact conservative Christians as a group who represent the greatest danger of grooming/assaulting children, this would likewise be fully within forum rules.

Further, were this liberal to counter Christian/conservative defense or denial of this reality with the claim that said conservative/Christian was supporting/promoting such behavior, that would likewise be entirely within the forum rules, as conservatives/Christians have accused liberals, etc. of this THOUSANDS of times.

Please correct me if I've misunderstood anything.

My understanding is that there are NOT two standards at play here on the forum in which members of one group may make false and outrageous accusations aimed at members of certain other groups THOUSANDS of times, while members of these falsely accused groups may not turn the tables and engage in the same behavior, but based in truth, correct?

I look forward to a clarification of the standards being applied equally to ALL posters, and just have one more question as a side note.

If Joe says "I like to eat apples," does Joe mean that he likes to eat ALL apples, or by logical inference, only SOME apples?

Poison apples, metal apples, wax apples, wooden apples, worm-infested apples, apples dipped in sewage, radioactive and numerous other apple types would by simple logic be excluded, and Joe in fact may only be referring to SOME types of red apples, excluding MOST types of red, and ALL green and yellow.

I very much look forward to a mature discussion of these questions, although as originally noted, I feel that there should be MUCH tighter control - if not exclusion - of certain types of hyper-inflammatory comments on the forum.

Thanks! :)
Karen wants to speak to the manager. :rolleyes-41:

DTMB is the most seniorest mod here now.

Chorizo worries about hard drives for the forum n stuff.

This is a job for Dont Taz Me Bro

To whom I probably should apololgize, but hey, how 'bout last Saturday's tequila-inspired Orange Man Bad thread, in "politics", huh?

Well! Deal with this! :D
 
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elchorizo

I think it would be helpful to get clarification on this issue.

While I think such comments should be MUCH more tightly moderated, or perhaps forbidden entirely, the reality is that the forum contains THOUSANDS of posts containing references to these issues.

Most of these posts - 99% or more I'd say - consist of conservatives/Christians falsely claiming that Democrats/liberals/LGBTQ+ folk are attempting to groom children in various ways so that these children can be raped/mutilated by these alleged groomers.

In most instances, those who refute this bizarre claim are accused of supporting/promoting child grooming/mutilation/sexual assault as part of an insidious agenda.

These conservative/Christian comments are clearly within the forum's rules, as only direct accusations of pedophilia are forbidden.

Therefore, if a person from the falsely accused group - a liberal for instance - were to TRUTHFULLY point out that it is in fact conservative Christians as a group who represent the greatest danger of grooming/assaulting children, this would likewise be fully within forum rules.

Further, were this liberal to counter Christian/conservative defense or denial of this reality with the claim that said conservative/Christian was supporting/promoting such behavior, that would likewise be entirely within the forum rules, as conservatives/Christians have accused liberals, etc. of this THOUSANDS of times.

Please correct me if I've misunderstood anything.

My understanding is that there are NOT two standards at play here on the forum in which members of one group may make false and outrageous accusations aimed at members of certain other groups THOUSANDS of times, while members of these falsely accused groups may not turn the tables and engage in the same behavior, but based in truth, correct?

I look forward to a clarification of the standards being applied equally to ALL posters, and just have one more question as a side note.

If Joe says "I like to eat apples," does Joe mean that he likes to eat ALL apples, or by logical inference, only SOME apples?

Poison apples, metal apples, wax apples, wooden apples, worm-infested apples, apples dipped in sewage, radioactive and numerous other apple types would by simple logic be excluded, and Joe in fact may only be referring to SOME types of red apples, excluding MOST types of red, and ALL green and yellow.

I very much look forward to a mature discussion of these questions, although as originally noted, I feel that there should be MUCH tighter control - if not exclusion - of certain types of hyper-inflammatory comments on the forum.

Thanks! :)
It's not just holy rollers who are disgusted by the support for mutilating children and exposing them to pornography, that is the coin of the realm among the degenerate left.

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elchorizo

I think it would be helpful to get clarification on this issue.

While I think such comments should be MUCH more tightly moderated, or perhaps forbidden entirely, the reality is that the forum contains THOUSANDS of posts containing references to these issues.

Most of these posts - 99% or more I'd say - consist of conservatives/Christians falsely claiming that Democrats/liberals/LGBTQ+ folk are attempting to groom children in various ways so that these children can be raped/mutilated by these alleged groomers.

In most instances, those who refute this bizarre claim are accused of supporting/promoting child grooming/mutilation/sexual assault as part of an insidious agenda.

These conservative/Christian comments are clearly within the forum's rules, as only direct accusations of pedophilia are forbidden.

Therefore, if a person from the falsely accused group - a liberal for instance - were to TRUTHFULLY point out that it is in fact conservative Christians as a group who represent the greatest danger of grooming/assaulting children, this would likewise be fully within forum rules.

Further, were this liberal to counter Christian/conservative defense or denial of this reality with the claim that said conservative/Christian was supporting/promoting such behavior, that would likewise be entirely within the forum rules, as conservatives/Christians have accused liberals, etc. of this THOUSANDS of times.

Please correct me if I've misunderstood anything.

My understanding is that there are NOT two standards at play here on the forum in which members of one group may make false and outrageous accusations aimed at members of certain other groups THOUSANDS of times, while members of these falsely accused groups may not turn the tables and engage in the same behavior, but based in truth, correct?

I look forward to a clarification of the standards being applied equally to ALL posters, and just have one more question as a side note.

If Joe says "I like to eat apples," does Joe mean that he likes to eat ALL apples, or by logical inference, only SOME apples?

Poison apples, metal apples, wax apples, wooden apples, worm-infested apples, apples dipped in sewage, radioactive and numerous other apple types would by simple logic be excluded, and Joe in fact may only be referring to SOME types of red apples, excluding MOST types of red, and ALL green and yellow.

I very much look forward to a mature discussion of these questions, although as originally noted, I feel that there should be MUCH tighter control - if not exclusion - of certain types of hyper-inflammatory comments on the forum.

Thanks! :)

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If a poster supports introducing materials to prepubescent boys that teach them how to give blow jobs and how to hook up with men for anonymous sex, they are supporting grooming.

If they oppose such behavior, they aren't.
They just don't want to be exposed.
Why are liberals always opposed to free speech. Of course, the answer is obvious
 
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