A Perfect Example Of Modern Environmentalism

[ClosedCaption]

Yeah poor people need help and if that means fucking up the planet then OH WELL!

 

[koshergrl]

Omg, you have no idea.

So on the Oregon Coast, the feds are accruing land like crazy...they snap it up, they say they're doing it to "save it for everybody".

They spend a lot of money on different crap with it..then they close it to public access. The only people that can access government land, in any meaningful sense..are government employees.
In order to enjoy Federal Forest Lands, you must enlist with the Forest Service and hope they station you somewhere you like.

 

[ClosedCaption]

I mean the more plastic bags the better...for poor people. Because Republicans are concerned with poor peoples well being. Thats why they call them dead beats, want to take away entitlements and fight like hell to keep the min wage low as possible.

Because they care about the poor

 

[koshergrl]

Cripes you can make rugs out of those things!

 

[koshergrl]

And use them for trash, when you don't have money for trash bags, or garbage service!

 

[koshergrl]

Why do environmentalists hate poor people?

Shouldn't poor people be able to have rugs, too?

Plastic Trash Rug My Recycled Bags.com

 

[ClosedCaption]

Cripes you can make rugs out of those things!

And face masks too. Unfortunatly people on make litter out of them and the face masks are real chokey

 

[ClosedCaption]

And use them for trash, when you don't have money for trash bags, or garbage service!

How about raising wages 10 cents since you care so much about their plight? The planet doesnt seem to be a concern for you but rugs....nooooow ya talking. Who doesnt need a rug? Who needs a planet anyway?

 

[koshergrl]

Only a retard would want a mask made out of plarn, and thus they probably deserve to choke.

For the rest of the poor people, who I do not believe to be as stupid as CC, what will they do for RUGS now???

Recycled Round Plarn Rug My Recycled Bags.com

 

[koshergrl]

And use them for trash, when you don't have money for trash bags, or garbage service!

How about raising wages 10 cents since you care so much about their plight? The planet doesnt seem to be a concern for you but rugs....nooooow ya talking. Who doesnt need a rug? Who needs a planet anyway?

You think the planet is under attack from plastic bags?

Wow. I have always just viewed them as inanimate objects...What do you think they want? Maybe if we just give them what they want..isn't that the mantra of the progressive? Surrender and all will be well!

 

[Erand7899]

I mean the more plastic bags the better...for poor people. Because Republicans are concerned with poor peoples well being. Thats why they call them dead beats, want to take away entitlements and fight like hell to keep the min wage low as possible.

Because they care about the poor

You need to get those two still functioning brain cells recharged. Your posts get more addled by the day. But, that is not unusual for a Liberal/Socialist. Their thought processes are always fairly cloudy.

We have a whole lot of poor people in this country, and a percentage of them are deadbeats who could be making an effort to help themselves. Pretending that they don't exist, does not help the rest of the poor in any meaningful way. See how easy that was?

Personally, I believe it is not a good idea to allow food stamp recipients to use their cards to buy liquor, cigerettes, lap dances, and dope, but that must mean I hate the poor. After all, isn't that why we give them the cards? Obviously, they have all the food they need.

Nor, do I think that raising the minimum wage makes any economic sense, at all. It may help a percentage of the poor to get a few extra dollars, but it hurts the rest because prices go up accordingly. Once again, I must hate the poor. Or, more likely, I am opposed to another Liberal/Socialist attempt to garner votes for Democrat politicians.

 

[ShackledNation]

Wow! Conservatives do not have a clue! Plastic bags are terrible for the environment. They clog our storm sewers, they litter our streets, they are made of oil and they will sit in a landfill for better than 8,000 years before degrading. That's about how long we have had written language.

The fees are not a means of screwing anyone. Everyone has the resources to buy a reusable grocery bag.

Only a warped, frustrated, willfully ignorant American Conservative could clumsily try to push this issue through a template of insanity and then cry that their "freedoms" are being eroded because they will now find it expensive to pollute.

10 cents per bag is not making it expensive to pollute. It has absolutely no effect on the usage of bags.

So why are you mad about it then?

Who said I was mad? I am just pointing out how utterly stupid and useless the law is.

 

[Bush92]

It's The People's Republic of Kalifornia. If environmentalist wanted people to puts steaming piles of dog shit on their heads and dance in the full moon, Gov. Brown would approve it.

 

[FA_Q2]

Wow! Conservatives do not have a clue! Plastic bags are terrible for the environment. They clog our storm sewers, they litter our streets, they are made of oil and they will sit in a landfill for better than 8,000 years before degrading. That's about how long we have had written language.

The fees are not a means of screwing anyone. Everyone has the resources to buy a reusable grocery bag.

Only a warped, frustrated, willfully ignorant American Conservative could clumsily try to push this issue through a template of insanity and then cry that their "freedoms" are being eroded because they will now find it expensive to pollute.

10 cents per bag is not making it expensive to pollute. It has absolutely no effect on the usage of bags.

Yes it dies and yes it will. That is a fact - making people pay for shit lessens its use.

We see this all over the place from medical expenses to food. Bags are no different - no matter how small the cost.

 

[FA_Q2]

Wow! Conservatives do not have a clue! Plastic bags are terrible for the environment. They clog our storm sewers, they litter our streets, they are made of oil and they will sit in a landfill for better than 8,000 years before degrading. That's about how long we have had written language.

The fees are not a means of screwing anyone. Everyone has the resources to buy a reusable grocery bag.

Only a warped, frustrated, willfully ignorant American Conservative could clumsily try to push this issue through a template of insanity and then cry that their "freedoms" are being eroded because they will now find it expensive to pollute.

10 cents per bag is not making it expensive to pollute. It has absolutely no effect on the usage of bags.

So why are you mad about it then?

Who said I was mad? I am just pointing out how utterly stupid and useless the law is.

Its not stupid because it does not change usage habits - it is stupid because it ignores the concept of freedom in favor of government micro management of our lives.

The government does not need to get involved in my choice of bagging material. It is asinine.

 

[Nosmo King]

Wow! Conservatives do not have a clue! Plastic bags are terrible for the environment. They clog our storm sewers, they litter our streets, they are made of oil and they will sit in a landfill for better than 8,000 years before degrading. That's about how long we have had written language.

The fees are not a means of screwing anyone. Everyone has the resources to buy a reusable grocery bag.

Only a warped, frustrated, willfully ignorant American Conservative could clumsily try to push this issue through a template of insanity and then cry that their "freedoms" are being eroded because they will now find it expensive to pollute.

10 cents per bag is not making it expensive to pollute. It has absolutely no effect on the usage of bags.

So why are you mad about it then?

Who said I was mad? I am just pointing out how utterly stupid and useless the law is.

Its not stupid because it does not change usage habits - it is stupid because it ignores the concept of freedom in favor of government micro management of our lives.

The government does not need to get involved in my choice of bagging material. It is asinine.

The Ford Pinto, lawn darts, leaded gasoline, DDT, asbestos, MBE, lead based paint, are all these assaults on your freedom to pollute and harm others too?

You have NO FREEDOM TO POLLUTE. Like it or not, smarter people than you have studied the problem and devised a solution and neither the problem nor the solution erode one bit of your freedoms.

 

[ClosedCaption]

Wow! Conservatives do not have a clue! Plastic bags are terrible for the environment. They clog our storm sewers, they litter our streets, they are made of oil and they will sit in a landfill for better than 8,000 years before degrading. That's about how long we have had written language.

The fees are not a means of screwing anyone. Everyone has the resources to buy a reusable grocery bag.

Only a warped, frustrated, willfully ignorant American Conservative could clumsily try to push this issue through a template of insanity and then cry that their "freedoms" are being eroded because they will now find it expensive to pollute.

10 cents per bag is not making it expensive to pollute. It has absolutely no effect on the usage of bags.

So why are you mad about it then?

Who said I was mad? I am just pointing out how utterly stupid and useless the law is.

Its not stupid because it does not change usage habits - it is stupid because it ignores the concept of freedom in favor of government micro management of our lives.

The government does not need to get involved in my choice of bagging material. It is asinine.

Except they have to clean it up when people are irresponsible with getting rid of them. So either you pay up front for prevention or you pay on the back end after the damage is done. All you have to do is look around to recent history to determine what the outcome will be. People will throw them everywhere and anywhere.

 

[Wolfstrike]

You have NO FREEDOM TO POLLUTE.

I'll be careful not to exhale

 

[ShackledNation]

Wow! Conservatives do not have a clue! Plastic bags are terrible for the environment. They clog our storm sewers, they litter our streets, they are made of oil and they will sit in a landfill for better than 8,000 years before degrading. That's about how long we have had written language.

The fees are not a means of screwing anyone. Everyone has the resources to buy a reusable grocery bag.

Only a warped, frustrated, willfully ignorant American Conservative could clumsily try to push this issue through a template of insanity and then cry that their "freedoms" are being eroded because they will now find it expensive to pollute.

10 cents per bag is not making it expensive to pollute. It has absolutely no effect on the usage of bags.

So why are you mad about it then?

Who said I was mad? I am just pointing out how utterly stupid and useless the law is.

Its not stupid because it does not change usage habits - it is stupid because it ignores the concept of freedom in favor of government micro management of our lives.

The government does not need to get involved in my choice of bagging material. It is asinine.

It's stupid for both reasons. Not sure why you are making a disagreement out of nothing.

 

[ShackledNation]

Wow! Conservatives do not have a clue! Plastic bags are terrible for the environment. They clog our storm sewers, they litter our streets, they are made of oil and they will sit in a landfill for better than 8,000 years before degrading. That's about how long we have had written language.

The fees are not a means of screwing anyone. Everyone has the resources to buy a reusable grocery bag.

Only a warped, frustrated, willfully ignorant American Conservative could clumsily try to push this issue through a template of insanity and then cry that their "freedoms" are being eroded because they will now find it expensive to pollute.

10 cents per bag is not making it expensive to pollute. It has absolutely no effect on the usage of bags.

Yes it dies and yes it will. That is a fact - making people pay for shit lessens its use.

We see this all over the place from medical expenses to food. Bags are no different - no matter how small the cost.

No, it doesn't. Sorry. How small the cost matters, and only someone with no clue how free markets work would say "no matter how small the cost." 10 cents means next to nothing for most people, and will not change happens to any significant degree whatsoever. If it were $10 per bag, then you would see significant changes, because that kind of money actually has an effect on people's pocket books.

And that's the point. If people felt like they couldn't afford these bags, they would revolt against the policy. But since in practice it really has no effect, people just deal with yet another stupid regulations, and the government gets higher revenues for a policy it knew all a long would do nothing to curb paper bag usage.